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JJ played starting ROLB in the Steelers 3-4 D. That system heavily relies on OLB making splash plays, QB hits, tackles behind the LOS, or it will be FAIL.
15 solo tackles and 2 sacks all season. Yea, that will really get the job done. If our ROLB isn't at least flirting with double-digit sacks, we won't be a very good D. The fact you think 2 sacks is "solid" is laughable.
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Come on guys. Solid means capable and not weak. 2 sacks all year from our ROLB is not solid, it is weak. Let's not fool ourselves.
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Possibly, but until further notice, we are not running a 4-3, we need him to excel in a 3-4.
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I think you can throw golson in the mix of mistakes. McCullers ***** bigger than golson. What a wasted pick. We need a new mind set when it comes to secondary play... What's with the 15 yard give away before the ball is even snapped? Big physical corners with linebacker sized safeties is how it's done... Oh and who started that trend... Oh jeez a team that started corners like Mel Blount, safeties like cornel lake... Hmmmm
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Woah...really? Talk about premature. Sheesh...the guy hasn't even set foot on a professional football field yet other than mini camp and he's a bust already? Good grief, I think the rope here gets shorter every year. It used to be at least after their first pre season game before the B word started coming out even from the most pessimistic of members.
Did Jarvis play in the secondary because I could of swore the thread title says SECONDARY
Maybe because some of his tackles occur in the secondary?
Mistakes in the secondary:
1. holding on to taylor too long while letting Lewis walk.
2. Trading up for shamarko thomas then not even trying to play him till we had few other options.
3. Signing Cortez to outside starter money based on his slot play, then forcing him out there and destroying his confidence to the point he cant even play slot...
4. Antwon Blake. Everything about him for 2 seasons now..
5. Trading for boykin then using him 25% of the time despite great positional play and solid playmaking and tackling.
6. Leaving golden on the bench over the now slow will allen.
7. Drafting Dri archer over Cockrell
8. Taking 2 Cbs and a safety in the draft... And not seeing anything out of any of them all year long.
9.Going into the year with the group we had and not at least trying to bring anyone in
1. holding on to taylor too long while letting Lewis walk.
2. Trading up for shamarko thomas then not even trying to play him till we had few other options.
3. Signing Cortez to outside starter money based on his slot play, then forcing him out there and destroying his confidence to the point he cant even play slot...
4. Antwon Blake. Everything about him for 2 seasons now..
5. Trading for boykin then using him 25% of the time despite great positional play and solid playmaking and tackling.
6. Leaving golden on the bench over the now slow will allen.
7. Drafting Dri archer over Cockrell
8. Taking 2 Cbs and a safety in the draft... And not seeing anything out of any of them all year long.
9.Going into the year with the group we had and not at least trying to bring anyone in
Oh OK carry on
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JJ did get a pick, and drops into coverage...must be in the secondary. If this guy was a 4-5 rounder he wouldn't get all this scrutiny. Rushed into action too soon (1st year), then broken wrist, now playing solid on a rotational role. Enough already.
Golson is such a bust, he can't hold Blakes jock... Did anyone else see how Blake locked that position down and didn't even let the second rounder or a top paid corner like Allen even sniff the field? Man he was sooo good he sent a 4th rounder packing in the final cuts.
Golson is such a bust, he can't hold Blakes jock... Did anyone else see how Blake locked that position down and didn't even let the second rounder or a top paid corner like Allen even sniff the field? Man he was sooo good he sent a 4th rounder packing in the final cuts.
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1. Lewis wanted to go home to NO, we would've had to WAY overpay to keep him if that was even an option.
2. We traded up for Landry, Shamarko was our original 4th. You also can't blame the coaches for not playing him, he clearly just isn't that good.
3. Agreed, Cortez was a waste of money
4. Blake does make splash plays but should not be a starting CB by any means. He can be a decent 5th option for depth only.
5. Boykin did get more PT as the season progressed and he was noticeable in the playoffs, just not sure why it took so long like you said.
6. I assume the coaches preferred Allen's experience to the young Golden? That would be the only way Golden doesn't play over Allen. Although Golden did see the field on passing downs.
7. Clearly Dri was a wasted pick but we picked up Cockrell anyway so not sure why this is here. Dri over ANYONE would've been a better pick lol
8. It's only going into year 2 for that draft class so at least give them another year before completely writing them off.
9. See #5, we did bring in someone, just never used him until the last 1/4 of the season for whatever reason.
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My narrative is winning football games. Jones and Blake are two very weak links. Any Steeler fan should root for someone else to displace them.
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Solid, a more accurate description would be Jarvis Jones was very poor. My eyes say so, and all the stats say the same. I could compare Jarvis to other starting 3-4 outside linebackers, and he'd finish at the bottom in nearly EVERY category.
This sums the situation up: Howard Jones a player the Steelers cut before the season started had 5 sacks this season! Jarvis Jones has 5 sacks in his entire career! It's not like Jarvis Jones is making many tackles either. He's easily blocked.
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Coach, look Jarvis, at this point, isnt a bad player at all. He was one of the better players in the playoffs for us... Now he was a bad pick, inasmuch as one would like a pick that high to have a higher upside, a more immediate impact, and not be splitting time in key situations, but Coming from a guy who has often critiqued Jarvis, its not factual to say heis still a bad player.. He plays the run well now and isnt a liability incoverage and gets some pressure on the qb... That is solid....
Jones is way below the line he's slow and weak,
no one can argue that, just watch him play. 15tackles and 2sacks???? Stats arent everything but those are horrid, then he was losing more and more playing time to a 37 year old guy, Jones was slated at a top five pick before the injury and combine, so I'm not blaming the FO/Tomlin, but Jones sucks.
no one can argue that, just watch him play. 15tackles and 2sacks???? Stats arent everything but those are horrid, then he was losing more and more playing time to a 37 year old guy, Jones was slated at a top five pick before the injury and combine, so I'm not blaming the FO/Tomlin, but Jones sucks.
Facts are he was one of the lowest producing olbs in the entire league. I know you don't produce that's why you can appreciate another slacker like him Been fired lately ?
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What cracks me up is the never ending argument that JJ is a starter he should produce more.
I would love more production from JJ, he is improving and if you watch what he does with his assignment he is solid more often than not. No he is not explosive making the splash plays, but a great part of this is him playing the assignment he is given. GA moved him all over the field to scheme him into a playmaking role, the Steelers do not deploy him in this manner. Granted his deployment is probably a reflection of team scheme, past performance and game plan. The coaching staff rarely has him rush through the middle behind a stunt which is one of his strengths, he has a nose for the ball and making plays when doing this. This is in part due to coaching and partly his skill set as compared to the NFL level of competition. He is improving and I fully expect another improvement in his performance next season.
To all the JJ haters that hate because we picked him too early quit saying he is a starter to try to prove your point. He is generally in there for the first snap of the game to spell the starter JAMES HARRISON. if we are going to call anyone a starter at the OLB position it should be the guy that receives the majority of the snaps. JJ averaged what 40-45% of the ROLB snaps? More accurately we have no starter at the OLB position, but several role players. I'd blame that on management, not the players. To that point having 4 role players to keep the pass rush salary down so we can afford top talent on offense may be the strategy as well. Role players are cheap compared to premier pass rushers. The lack of star talent at the OLB position is due in part because this is an offensive based team...follow the money trail.
I would love more production from JJ, he is improving and if you watch what he does with his assignment he is solid more often than not. No he is not explosive making the splash plays, but a great part of this is him playing the assignment he is given. GA moved him all over the field to scheme him into a playmaking role, the Steelers do not deploy him in this manner. Granted his deployment is probably a reflection of team scheme, past performance and game plan. The coaching staff rarely has him rush through the middle behind a stunt which is one of his strengths, he has a nose for the ball and making plays when doing this. This is in part due to coaching and partly his skill set as compared to the NFL level of competition. He is improving and I fully expect another improvement in his performance next season.
To all the JJ haters that hate because we picked him too early quit saying he is a starter to try to prove your point. He is generally in there for the first snap of the game to spell the starter JAMES HARRISON. if we are going to call anyone a starter at the OLB position it should be the guy that receives the majority of the snaps. JJ averaged what 40-45% of the ROLB snaps? More accurately we have no starter at the OLB position, but several role players. I'd blame that on management, not the players. To that point having 4 role players to keep the pass rush salary down so we can afford top talent on offense may be the strategy as well. Role players are cheap compared to premier pass rushers. The lack of star talent at the OLB position is due in part because this is an offensive based team...follow the money trail.
I don't have the same eyes as you. He had a nice strip sack versus Bengals. Should have been a TD. He is paid to do many things. but most notably to apply pressure. He still gets swallowed up by the left tackle. Complete lock on that looks like he is in a walk through. I wouldn't say he was in the area code of solid. I'd say he improved from last year, but that ain't sayin a hell of a lot
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Just put him on ignore. Never has anything positive to say. He's one of those glass fully empty guys. Does nothing but ***** about everything the Steelers do.