Yeah, I thought it was #91 being offsides, myself.
To all the Tomin haters
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Yeah, I thought it was #91 being offsides, myself.
So what are you really saying? Get rid of Ben and start the 20+ year search for the next franchise QB?
I say keep Ben and get the most of his last years with a HC who could form a balanced team that will bring more tropheys.
haha dude you nailed it, dead on! Ben has a show on before the presser and he took blame and said he didn't have his best game. Tomlin said we endlessly, even when asked about prep, focus, etc, he said he's not looking back, blah, blah, blah. Gave the dumbest answer about the lack of pressure with just four guys, and if they shouldve
blitzed more, he said good defenses can pressure with four guys and we strive to be that. So basically its what we want to do and if it's not working, we will do it anyways.
Quit being obtuse. The premise here is that Tomlin is not properly motivating his players, he is not getting through to them the importance. Ben has been included in that. So again, the question is, what are you prepared to do. If the QB rolls stinkers out like Sunday in big spots, what are you prepared to do?
See, this is where some of you are full of ****. Tomlin has to do this, Tomlin that. Be specific. What do you do?
I will flat out admit that I do not know. I don't profess to have the answer. I don't want to sit the franchise guy nor get rid of him. Nobody said that. But he has to stop having these games in which he plays like **** in big spots. I sure he has been talked to. I'm sure he knows it.
You seem to think that just changing who is in charge will fix it. You are obviously a simpleton, as somehow you extrapolated out of my post I want to get rid of Ben. Easy answers, but it is never that easy.
Is he? When you couch it by saying, "I have to stop trying to make plays?" That sounds like a guy who needs his ego massaged a bit. "No, little Benny, we want you to be you." C'mon. I think the world of the guy, I really do. I would not want another QB. But he threw a stinker out there on Sunday. Why? Why in that spot?
Ben admittedly had a **** game, I haven't seen anyone saying he had a good game, but why isn't Brown, the supposedly best WR in the NFL, not getting any flack for not making that TD catch? Or Bryant on 3RD down dropping a big gainer on 3rd down, if he stays on his feet Ben just threw the winning TD, if he just catches it we are close to FG range. No one wants to bring any of that, hell Bryant had a few drops.
Well there it is isn't it. Good defenses bring pressure with four men. No they don't. Very few if any teams bring consistent pressure with four guys. But lets say this fairy land exists. You double team Cam Heyward that leaves you three on three blockers plus the back if you are in a protection. So who of the remaining 3 will consistently bring pressure? There you go.
Hey, you are absolutely correct. It just seems that whenever Ben has a lousy game, he gets countless defenders, one of he main defenses is he won 2 SBs.
That defense is valid, but it isn't valid to point out that Tomlin won a SB too.
Dammit, I have no desire to defend Tomlin. I'd fire his ***. I just think some of the arguments are half-assed.
You just seem to be blaming it all on Ben, that´s why I asked the question. If you´re going to blame someone, be fair. The blame for this game goes to various members of the team, but the blame for not reaching the play-offs AGAIN!!!!!! can only go to one person.....
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The simpleton I am thinks that changing the HC may not fix all the problems, but it would certainly be a step in the right direction.
Because he did make the catch and it's not his fault the NFL ****** up what a catch is and it's a huge ******* mess.
I agree but if you're going to credit brown with that, then you have to credit Ben with throw
Great throw. Rest of the game was **** and he was out played by Mallet. And as someone we consider elite and a Franchise Guy that can't happen
The throw on 3rd down that hit Bryant in stride was **** too? Should've been the winning score if Bryant doesn't fall and not catch the ball
He didn't catch it no fault of Ben. If he does yes it does help erase the game they both had.. cause Bryant stunk too. But he didn't so again Ben the elite guy was outplayed by Mallet.
And Tomlin out coached by a guy with a jv squad
If you can blame various members of the team for Sunday, how can it be on one person that they may not reach he playoffs? It makes no damn sense.
You are absolutely right in saying it isn't just Ben. He is the most visible guy, though. And something was off on Sunday. Body language, everything. Who knows why. But I hear this stuff about the coach wasting Ben's best years. Ben has to be careful that he doesn't waste his best years.
And if I had my way, Tomlin would be out. I can't stress that enough. I just will not blame him for the motivation level of players. That is on them. Not taking the points on the first drive, or a stupid playcall on 4th? That's Tomlin and fair game. It is just people get so emotional about it as soon as someone says what I just said there, I am a Tomlin supporter.
**** off with your outplayed by Mallet. Mallet's stats were good because your retard for a head coach let him stand there and throw 7-10 yards to basically uncovered guys. He made like two or three big quality throws otherwise. Ben's stat line was pretty much what it normally was 70% but they didn't have the ball enough because the defense couldn't get it, to get the 38-44 passes he needed. The one interception was a bad sight adjustment to AB that could easily have been a huge play. He misread the linebacker on the other. That is him, bnut he has made that throw for a big play 50 times this year. The linebacker just didn't do what he normally should and come down on the TE.
Wow Tomlin coaches and plays interesting. That's neat trick.
Steelers don’t blame coaches for latest loss to a bad team
Posted by Darin Gantt on December 29, 2015, 10:35 AM EST
<> at M&T Bank Stadium on December 27, 2015 in Baltimore, Maryland.
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The Steelers were widely hailed as the team no one wanted to see in the playoffs.
But it’s their habit of losing to the teams that don’t get that far which could doom them.
According to Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Sunday’s loss to the Ravens was the 13th loss to a sub-.500 team the last four seasons, which is more than enough to make it more than a statistical fluke.
“Criticism for the coaches? No, they aren’t out there,” guard Ramon Foster said. “We are the ones who have to make the plays. Those guys didn’t do anything differently than in weeks past. We just have to make our plays and execute the plan, and we didn’t do that. That falls on us.”
Even last year when they lost to the 2-14 Buccaneers, it didn’t sting like this one, since a win would have put them in the driver’s seat for the playoffs, and now they have to beat the Browns and hope the Bills beat the Jets. The fact they lost control against a team starting its fourth quarterback of the year just makes it look that much worse, but they don’t like the implication they didn’t take the Ravens as seriously.
“We definitely didn’t overlook the Baltimore Ravens,” running back DeAngelo Williams said. “What bothers me is that people overlook 4-10 teams like they aren’t allowed to play good football or play up to a team that is hot or has a winning record. This is the National Football League. It is any given Sunday, and it is not always the best team that wins on Sunday. It’s the team that plays the best on Sundays. That’s what bothers me.”
All those cliches may be true. But so might the one about playing to the level of the competition when it comes to the Steelers.
Steelers don’t blame coaches for latest loss to a bad team
Posted by Darin Gantt on December 29, 2015, 10:35 AM EST
<> at M&T Bank Stadium on December 27, 2015 in Baltimore, Maryland.
Getty Images
The Steelers were widely hailed as the team no one wanted to see in the playoffs.
But it’s their habit of losing to the teams that don’t get that far which could doom them.
According to Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Sunday’s loss to the Ravens was the 13th loss to a sub-.500 team the last four seasons, which is more than enough to make it more than a statistical fluke.
“Criticism for the coaches? No, they aren’t out there,” guard Ramon Foster said. “We are the ones who have to make the plays. Those guys didn’t do anything differently than in weeks past. We just have to make our plays and execute the plan, and we didn’t do that. That falls on us.”
Even last year when they lost to the 2-14 Buccaneers, it didn’t sting like this one, since a win would have put them in the driver’s seat for the playoffs, and now they have to beat the Browns and hope the Bills beat the Jets. The fact they lost control against a team starting its fourth quarterback of the year just makes it look that much worse, but they don’t like the implication they didn’t take the Ravens as seriously.
“We definitely didn’t overlook the Baltimore Ravens,” running back DeAngelo Williams said. “What bothers me is that people overlook 4-10 teams like they aren’t allowed to play good football or play up to a team that is hot or has a winning record. This is the National Football League. It is any given Sunday, and it is not always the best team that wins on Sunday. It’s the team that plays the best on Sundays. That’s what bothers me.”
All those cliches may be true. But so might the one about playing to the level of the competition when it comes to the Steelers.
Tomlin would be a damn fine used car salesman or a hype pitch for an energy drink
But who cares what the players say they don't know ****..
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