Mike Tomlin: We listened to the Patriots Radio Broadcast for the Whole First Half
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Darth Hoodie outcoaches everybody but then you don't have to be that good to outcoach MT.
I'm not at a conspiracy theorist at all. But I believe that what happened with the radio signals was intentional.
That said, the Steelers were their own worst enemy.
The time to play the Patriots is early in the season, and they didn't take advantage of that. The Patriots could have been had, but not by a team - and head coach - making so many mistakes.
That said, the Steelers were their own worst enemy.
The time to play the Patriots is early in the season, and they didn't take advantage of that. The Patriots could have been had, but not by a team - and head coach - making so many mistakes.
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I am not a rules expert but it appears to me that the interior P*'s lineman lurchs forward and the other 2 move sideways to cover the act designed to draw the Steelers into a penalty.
When the D lineman lunges forward should that not a penalty on the P*'s?
I am not a rules expert but it appears to me that the interior P*'s lineman lurchs forward and the other 2 move sideways to cover the act designed to draw the Steelers into a penalty.
When the D lineman lunges forward should that not a penalty on the P*'s?
They were absolutely coached to do that. We can cry about it all we want. The offense has to execute. Now that we've seen it we know to expect it. Rather see some BS like this in week 1 than in the playoffs.
The Steelers looked like ****, there is no doubt about it. Thats what makes this worse. If they had their **** together, there was a W for the taking. Then this headset conversation would be taken more seriously by other folks.
I actually got a little pumped up for last night. As a declining fan with waning interest, this site and my deep love of the game won. However, I got my feelings smashed by the blatant **** YOU Kraft and Cheater Bill sent to the country last night.
The Rooneys know it. Have known. So have all the other owners. Just greed.
Well Goodell got in bed with the devil. The Devil has now turned on him. Rog will likely be on his way out. Make no mistake, Kraft let us all know last night who runs the NFL.
I actually got a little pumped up for last night. As a declining fan with waning interest, this site and my deep love of the game won. However, I got my feelings smashed by the blatant **** YOU Kraft and Cheater Bill sent to the country last night.
The Rooneys know it. Have known. So have all the other owners. Just greed.
Well Goodell got in bed with the devil. The Devil has now turned on him. Rog will likely be on his way out. Make no mistake, Kraft let us all know last night who runs the NFL.
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I have no doubt that they were coached to do that but one DL is moving forward while the other 2 are moving sideways. Is it not a penalty on the one moving forward?
Its a unsportsmanlike call I believe. I thought it clever actually and was pissed we fell for it. Hell our OL false starts on the regular anyways.
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It isn't unsportsmanlike if the defense simply moves laterally. I thought Ben was complaining that the DL or LB called out a cadence but he didn't... THAT would have been a penalty, but the defense is allowed to shift all they want.
This was Belichick after the game. I've never seen this look before - rockin' the cargo shorts:
lol he's such a douche. Wasnt it raining cats and dogs?
I was surprised, a bit. On First Take, both Skip and Steven A. were both in the "WTF is going on here, this looks very bad" camp. Herm Edwards was all "it's not a big deal, it's not why the Steelers lost." Steven A. took him to task, saying how the Steelers played and what happened on the field is irrelevant to the headsets...they aren't correlated.
I'm a bit tired of this approach by *Patriots fans, the NFL, and some analysts. The deflated balls didn't matter, NE would have won anyway. The spying didn't matter, the players still had to make the plays. The headsets going out didn't matter, the Steelers couldn't cover Gronk.
WTF? The issue is breaking the damned rules. You don't mitigate those issues by tying them to the game on the field.
This approach is maddening. And it goes both ways. When Weiss was there back in 2000, the very beginnings of Spygate, they lost to Tampa Bay (see the OTL report). After, talking heads used this as an example to say "see, the spying really wasn't effective."
When the *Patriots win, they say "it wouldn't have mattered, NE would have won anyway." When the *Patriots lose, they say "Why do you care? The cheating didn't help them, NE still lost."
Arggggh.
I'm a bit tired of this approach by *Patriots fans, the NFL, and some analysts. The deflated balls didn't matter, NE would have won anyway. The spying didn't matter, the players still had to make the plays. The headsets going out didn't matter, the Steelers couldn't cover Gronk.
WTF? The issue is breaking the damned rules. You don't mitigate those issues by tying them to the game on the field.
This approach is maddening. And it goes both ways. When Weiss was there back in 2000, the very beginnings of Spygate, they lost to Tampa Bay (see the OTL report). After, talking heads used this as an example to say "see, the spying really wasn't effective."
When the *Patriots win, they say "it wouldn't have mattered, NE would have won anyway." When the *Patriots lose, they say "Why do you care? The cheating didn't help them, NE still lost."
Arggggh.
The false start penalty / defense shifting is the kind of stuff that goes on every Sunday. That's nothing worth making a fuss over as a fan (Ben had every right to plead his case with the officials though).
He showered and put on his civvies.
This is authentic - it was tweeted by a Boston reporter who was at the postgame presser:
https://twitter.com/BuckinBoston/status/642186919535898624/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
and that exact approach is what is turning me off to the game. Its just insulting at this point.
If it has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, then why the hell are they doing? Just for fun?.. No, because it can play factors in the game and it has. Does it determine the direct outcome of the game? No, but it sure has hell can help with momentum shifts and small plays sometimes can change a game completely.
Only if he's in the neutral zone. He also has time to get back before the snap. However, in this instance, if he's in the neutral zone (which is hard to tell) and the Steelers jump, even if he gets back its a penalty on the defense. I'm not sure what happened here, but I've seen defensive linemen shift sideways late in the cadence. The player that lurched forward is the one that potentially should have been called if, indeed, he was in the neutral zone.
Papillon
He could have at least put on a pair of Sperrys. IJS
I'm sure he wears them when he's boating.
The stupidity of people that get paid handsomely to give their opinions on TV is mind-blowing. Is it that hard to put the following thoughts together: the Patriots are serial cheaters who have been cheating in a variety of ways for many years and it has clearly been a factor in the outcome of some - but not each of every one - of the games they have played.
Bart Scott weighs in...
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...-steelers-had-headset-issues-against-patriots
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-o...-steelers-had-headset-issues-against-patriots