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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

Probable cause is supposed to come BEFORE an arrest.
you're on record here for saying people should be imprisoned to prevent them from preventing crimes. your fLip fLops are Legendary. Loser.
 
He did say you were obtuse and that pretty much confirms it.

He never said he had experienced being wrongfully arrested, but there are those that have.
So… being wrongfully arrested and charged with a crime is no big deal, but mask mandates and social distancing is a bridge too far. Dude.
 
you're on record here for saying people should be imprisoned to prevent them from preventing crimes. your fLip fLops are Legendary. Loser.
When criminals come up for parole, they need to compel a board into believing that they will not commit more crimes.The pedophile and felon Trump didn’t require that of the J6 traitors when he pardoned them. Carry on.
 
When criminals come up for parole, they need to compel a board into believing that they will not commit more crimes.The pedophile and felon Trump didn’t require that of the J6 traitors when he pardoned them. Carry on.
yet that is not the hypocritical hill you chose to die on.
 
Eh…That’s just Donald being Donald, not worth getting all upset over.
Republicans take Trump seriously but not literally.
Democrats take Trump literally but not seriously.
 
While a generalization, current Democrats don't appear to have much of a sense of humor, replaced by incessant whining.
No, they always have some cause or crisis to be alarmed about in order to justify their existence.
Problem for us Conservatives is that we have to be just as motivated in order to get the Left, i.e. the government, to leave us alone when the truth is that we'd rather have a beer and a cigar and be out waxing our cars or barbecuing some ribs.
 
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Please share your experience being wrongfully arrested and charged with a crime.

Never happened? Right. You couldn’t care less. You don’t do empathy, but somehow you'll pass judgement.

The dodge and deflect Queen strikes again. Lose the argument change the argument.

Wrongful arrests, detainments happen often, despite your inferences they are rare.

Charges are dropped fairly often​

Depending on the jurisdiction and the type of offense, studies have found that anywhere from 20% to more than 50% of criminal cases are eventually dismissed before trial.

The reasons vary widely:
  • Insufficient evidence
  • Witnesses refusing to cooperate
  • Problems with search warrants
  • Constitutional violations
  • Plea agreements involving other charges
  • Laboratory or forensic problems
  • Discovery that the wrong person was arrested

What usually happens?​

A typical sequence looks something like this:
  1. Police make an arrest based on probable cause.
  2. Prosecutors review the evidence.
  3. New evidence emerges, or existing evidence proves unreliable.
  4. Charges are reduced or dismissed.
...although outright arrests of the wrong person are relatively rare, dismissals themselves are extremely common in the American criminal justice system. In many jurisdictions, prosecutors end up dropping a surprisingly large percentage of cases before they ever reach a jury.

By all means, continue to make the case that what happened to Hearn is a once in a lifetime event, Halley's comet type event.
 
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Back on the topic of winning. I'm pretty excited about this. $2K for prep year education. Room and board included. If my kids were preparing to go to college today, I'd highly encourage them to take advantage of this first.


 
The dodge and deflect Queen strikes again. Lose the argument change the argument.

Wrongful arrests, detainments

Charges are dropped fairly often​

Depending on the jurisdiction and the type of offense, studies have found that anywhere from 20% to more than 50% of criminal cases are eventually dismissed before trial.

The reasons vary widely:
  • Insufficient evidence
  • Witnesses refusing to cooperate
  • Problems with search warrants
  • Constitutional violations
  • Plea agreements involving other charges
  • Laboratory or forensic problems
  • Discovery that the wrong person was arrested

What usually happens?​

A typical sequence looks something like this:
  1. Police make an arrest based on probable cause.
  2. Prosecutors review the evidence.
  3. New evidence emerges, or existing evidence proves unreliable.
  4. Charges are reduced or dismissed.
...although outright arrests of the wrong person are relatively rare, dismissals themselves are extremely common in the American criminal justice system. In many jurisdictions, prosecutors end up dropping a surprisingly large percentage of cases before they ever reach a jury.

By all means, continue to make the case that what happened to Hearn is a once in a lifetime event, Halley's comet type event.
No, dodge and deflecting is changing your argument that probable cause comes after an arrest.

So, are you sticking with Pirro or has Dear Leader set you straight and you’re going back to believing that Hearn vandalized the pool?
 
No, dodge and deflecting is changing your argument that probable cause comes after an arrest.

So, are you sticking with Pirro or has Dear Leader set you straight and you’re going back to believing that Hearn vandalized the pool?

LMAO :ROFLMAO: Those were literally not my words. But since you've deflected to the topic...

You're clearly not aware that "probable cause" is a very low standard, right? Meaning police have a reasonable basis to believe that a specific person committed a crime is all it takes.

There's also a lower standard whereby someone can be detained on "reasonable suspicion"

You believe in order to be detained/arrested, 100% of verifiable evidence must be documented/obtained prior to an arrest.

Well played, Court Jester. Yer next trick?
 
LMAO :ROFLMAO: Those were literally not my words. But since you've deflected to the topic...

You're clearly not aware that "probable cause" is a very low standard, right?
No it’s not. Police can’t arrest people because of a guess or suspicion.
Meaning police have a reasonable basis to believe that a specific person committed a crime is all it takes.

There's also a lower standard whereby someone can be detained on "reasonable suspicion"
Detained. Not arrested and charged. Quit trying to change the argument.
You believe in order to be detained/arrested, 100% of verifiable evidence must be documented/obtained prior to an arrest.

Well played, Court Jester. Yer next trick?
Detained isn’t arrested and charged. Dodge! Deflect!
 
So… being wrongfully arrested and charged with a crime is no big deal, but mask mandates and social distancing is a bridge too far. Dude.
Gee did I say being wrongfully arrested is no big deal?

Dude.
You need to stop reading things that are not there just because it affords you a comeback.

All that’s being said is that false arrests are made frequently, AND ITS UNFORTUNATE!
Better?
 
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When criminals come up for parole, they need to compel a board into believing that they will not commit more crimes.The pedophile and felon Trump didn’t require that of the J6 traitors when he pardoned them. Carry on.
Just for ***** and giggles, why were there no charges against all the damages, fires, injuries, deaths and destruction of federal and private property during BLM/artifacts protests? And the harms to police officers?

Yet for J6, with relatively little damage, and the shooting, by police, of one protester, and the clear involvement of FBI/CIA assets in encouraging folks to enter the velvet ropes, you scream, biitch, moan and bring your pFucking hypocrisy to insane levels.
 
Just for ***** and giggles, why were there no charges against all the damages, fires, injuries, deaths and destruction of federal and private property during BLM/artifacts protests? And the harms to police officers?

Yet for J6, with relatively little damage, and the shooting, by police, of one protester, and the clear involvement of FBI/CIA assets in encouraging folks to enter the velvet ropes, you scream, biitch, moan and bring your pFucking hypocrisy to insane levels.
WTF, many people were arrested and charged with crimes during the BLM protests.
 
From Mike Rowe today. What say you liberal left?

I'm not what you'd call a keen observer of the political climate in our country, but I do pay attention, broadly, to what's going on within our two parties. Watching the latest from Bill Maher, I was reminded of how we struggle to reconcile our support for an idea we might like, if it’s promoted by a politician we hate. And vice versa. Here though, we have an opportunity - Democrats, in particular - to speak out loudly and clearly against an ideology that has been proven, demonstrably, to be a really bad idea.
It’s alarming to see how quickly communism has been embraced by so many, but it's even more alarming, to see how many have yet to condemn it, in favor of sheltering under a “big tent.” This week, Gavin Newsom dismissed concerns over Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and progressive candidates winning key primaries, stating he would gladly campaign for them. He argued that the party must be in the "addition, not subtraction business" to retake control of Congress.

Not that anyone asked me, but…wow. The candidates that Newsom is referring to here are not subtle. They have clearly articulated precisely what they want, and exactly what they will try to accomplish if they gain power. No borders. No police. No prisons. No Senate. From each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities, and so forth. They are literally quoting Karl Marx, and they are literally on the record as desiring to completely dismantle our government and replace it with actual communism. And the Governor of California says he will campaign on their behalf, if doing so will result in a Congressional win. Truly amazing.
Seems to me, that this is best opportunity Democrats will ever have to make some kind of reasonable appeal to Independents, and those not on board with this administration. This is a chance to affirmatively distance themselves from an ideology that has caused more human suffering than any other scheme dreamt up by man. And yet, they have not.
I understand how unpopular President Trump is in the eyes of many. But if the DSA continues to grow in popularity, and the Democrats actually campaign on their behalf, I think it’ll be the largest political blunder in my lifetime. Unless of course, I’m wrong, and the DSA expands to swallow the Democratic Party, and communism winds up on the ballot. In which case, Ronald Reagan’s warning will haunt us all.
“Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction.”
 
$2-3 Million to fix the J6 Capitol damages, 1270 Americans convicted of federal charges.

$1-2 Billion in BLM damages, 120 federal convictions.
BLM rioters weren’t so stupid as to record and themselves committing felonies and share it online.
 
WTF, many people were arrested and charged with crimes during the BLM protests.
BLM rioters weren’t so stupid as to record and themselves committing felonies and share it online.
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Caught again jumping all over the place.

Yes, multiple individuals participating in or embedded within Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests recorded themselves committing acts of property destruction, arson, and violence. These self-recorded videos and livestreams were subsequently used by local and federal law enforcement to identify, arrest, and convict them.
 
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