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The head coach search

steel dino said:
Unfortunately, a one good foot Josh Allen is better than any quarterback we have on our roster currently…
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Unfortunately I can’t dispute your statement.

It’s too bad our previous coaching regime didn’t invest any time in finding out what we have in the Will Howard kid.

Rumor has it that Will only got “scout team” reps, way way different than game reps.




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Drink IRON City said:
Unfortunately I can’t dispute your statement.

It’s too bad our previous coaching regime didn’t invest any time in finding out what we have in the Will Howard kid.

Rumor has it that Will only got “scout team” reps, way way different than game reps.




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Have a little faith DIC..

Winds of change are blowing in Pittsburgh!
 
I think we all have to root against Los Angeles this weekend just to open up the availability of both Shula and Scheelhaase. Those two chips have to fall, either with us or without us for the coaching carosel to start to come to its conclusion.

I think the Steelers are waiting to get one of them, but if that doesn't work out, I think the veteran guys (probably McCarthy) is the Plan B and "just in case the whole things goes to ****". Because there have been SO many openings, even the young kids the Steelers normally target are getting targeted by other teams.
 
I'm questioning the Scheelhaase love as a potential HC from the media and "insiders" considering his lack of experience. McVay runs the offense with the Rams including play calling. He's the one fully in control of what goes on development wise on the offensive side. who knows how good Scheelhaase actually is with McVay calling all the shots.

However, it appears that McVay has very little to do on the defensive side. He lets the DC do all of that during the week and in games. Shula would appear to be the safer pick between the two unless Scheelhasse blows then away in interviews.

If we do go with Shula, hopefully, he will follow the McVay strategy and bring in a good OC he trusts to focus on the offense while he works primarily with the defense and other coaching duties.

I still think a Shula HC and Scheelhasse OC duo would be a potentially good combo for the team long-term.
 
Shula/Steelhaas. Dream combo.
 
The HC/QB combination is what this new hire will rise or fall on. Outside of Howard having a Purdy-like ascent, my preferences would be, in order:

1. Malik Willis - always had the tools but needed legit coaching. Check.
2. Mac Jones - game manager but can play within a structured offense.
3. Kyler Murray - thrived under Kingsbury. Gannon was a trainwreck.
4. Cousins - bridge QB. Can work if a legit WR1/2 is acquired.
 
Drink IRON City said:
What happened to “ he would have a job in 5 minutes” ????




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Tomlin would be hired already if he wanted a job and we would have compensation. Probably from the Giants. As has been reported repeatedly Tomlin doesn’t want to coach next year and maybe not again.
 
DesertSteel said:
The HC/QB combination is what this new hire will rise or fall on. Outside of Howard having a Purdy-like ascent, my preferences would be, in order:

1. Malik Willis - always had the tools but needed legit coaching. Check.
2. Mac Jones - game manager but can play within a structured offense.
3. Kyler Murray - thrived under Kingsbury. Gannon was a trainwreck.
4. Cousins - bridge QB. Can work if a legit WR1/2 is acquired.
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Of those 4, Willis or bust, Jones and Cousins aren't doing any better than ARod/Russ, and Murray is too small. Willis is the only one with upside.
 
DesertSteel said:
The HC/QB combination is what this new hire will rise or fall on. Outside of Howard having a Purdy-like ascent, my preferences would be, in order:

1. Malik Willis - always had the tools but needed legit coaching. Check.
2. Mac Jones - game manager but can play within a structured offense.
3. Kyler Murray - thrived under Kingsbury. Gannon was a trainwreck.
4. Cousins - bridge QB. Can work if a legit WR1/2 is acquired.
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None of those options does anything for me at this point. Rather have Aaron back than Cousins.
 
Phoenix1172 said:
I'm questioning the Scheelhaase love as a potential HC from the media and "insiders" considering his lack of experience. McVay runs the offense with the Rams including play calling. He's the one fully in control of what goes on development wise on the offensive side. who knows how good Scheelhaase actually is with McVay calling all the shots.

However, it appears that McVay has very little to do on the defensive side. He lets the DC do all of that during the week and in games. Shula would appear to be the safer pick between the two unless Scheelhasse blows then away in interviews.

If we do go with Shula, hopefully, he will follow the McVay strategy and bring in a good OC he trusts to focus on the offense while he works primarily with the defense and other coaching duties.

I still think a Shula HC and Scheelhasse OC duo would be a potentially good combo for the team long-term.
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I like that idea, but if Scheelhasse is anything close to what is advertised, he won't be an OC for very long.
 
Tomlins agent advised him not to take a job this year because the only coach that will work under him is Austin . Can't attract young exciting talent.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
None of those options does anything for me at this point. Rather have Aaron back than Cousins.
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I dunno Willis looks interesting. I wouldn’t rule him out as a competition possibility..
 
Think of the Raiders coaching search like this... since the 2000 season (26 years, counting 00) the Browns have had 12 head coaches
The Raiders have had 14... though that isnt counting Grudens second stint with them... and since Art shell was fired in 94 after a 6 year run, only two head coaches have coached longer than 3 years.. Gruden in 98-01, and Gruden again from 18-21...

If the Browns HC job is toxic, the Raiders are radioactive..

Edited... my 12 turned into a 15 somehow🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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deljzc said:
I think we all have to root against Los Angeles this weekend just to open up the availability of both Shula and Scheelhaase. Those two chips have to fall, either with us or without us for the coaching carosel to start to come to its conclusion.

I think the Steelers are waiting to get one of them, but if that doesn't work out, I think the veteran guys (probably McCarthy) is the Plan B and "just in case the whole things goes to ****". Because there have been SO many openings, even the young kids the Steelers normally target are getting targeted by other teams.
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The can interview in person next week win or lose.
 
I've been thinking more about McDermott this morning. Has there been any chatter about the Steelers interviewing him?

His career reminds me of Andy Reid with the Eagles. Another really good coach that was ultimately let go because his Eagles teams frequently came up short when it mattered. Andy did quite well at his next stop.

The Bills were a dumpster fire for two decades before McDermott arrived. Under his coaching, they made the playoffs 8 of his 9 years. If not for the Chiefs dynasty during much of that time, who knows what they may have done.

It goes against the Steelers' tradition of bringing in young guys that have never been a coach before and he is older at 51. However, Reid was 54 when he joined the Chiefs.

McDermott has also shown he's capable of developing QB talent under his watch since he was the coach when Josh Allen was drafted.

Brian Daboll was the OC when Allen was drafted and instrumental in his early development and success. Daboll got a raw deal with the giants. As an owner, I'd give a lot of consideration to possibly bringing in McDermott as the HC and Daboll as the OC.

The Steelers may want a young guy like Shula with less experience as the HC since management will have more control and not have to pay as much money.
 
Phoenix1172 said:
I've been thinking more about McDermott this morning. Has there been any chatter about the Steelers interviewing him?

His career reminds me of Andy Reid with the Eagles. Another really good coach that was ultimately let go because his Eagles teams frequently came up short when it mattered. Andy did quite well at his next stop.

The Bills were a dumpster fire for two decades before McDermott arrived. Under his coaching, they made the playoffs 8 of his 9 years. If not for the Chiefs dynasty during much of that time, who knows what they may have done.

It goes against the Steelers' tradition of bringing in young guys that have never been a coach before and he is older at 51. However, Reid was 54 when he joined the Chiefs.

McDermott has also shown he's capable of developing QB talent under his watch since he was the coach when Josh Allen was drafted.

Brian Daboll was the OC when Allen was drafted and instrumental in his early development and success. Daboll got a raw deal with the giants. As an owner, I'd give a lot of consideration to possibly bringing in McDermott as the HC and Daboll as the OC.

The Steelers may want a young guy like Shula with less experience as the HC since management will have more control and not have to pay as much money.
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I expect the Steelers to do what they did with Tomlin and Cowher and heavily influence the staff where they arent strong... Cowher got saddled with Erhardt at Oc and Capers at DC and a ton of vet assistants... tomlin got Arians and DLB


So both got an older experienced coordinator who had a failed HC shot as well as a longtime NFL assistant at coordinator... both were given certain assistants but allowed to bring some buddies in... like Marvin lewis with cowher and Fitchner with Tomlin
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Tomlin would be hired already if he wanted a job and we would have compensation. Probably from the Giants. As has been reported repeatedly Tomlin doesn’t want to coach next year and maybe not again.
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Well obviously the 5 minutes have passed.



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On the QBs that are out there that we could sign as a stopgap until the 2027 draft I’d say Willis or Mack Brown.
System really matters and great coaching matters.
Mack Brown played well in relief of Purdy in a great offensive system under Kyle Shanahan and Klay Kubiak.
Take Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft, same draft as Kenny Pickett. Look at how well he’s developed under that system.
Then there is Malik Willis the backup in GB. Played well as a backup to Love in a great offensive system under Matt LeFleur.
System does matter and can get the most out of these marginally talented QBs.
Now if we hire Shula and he brings in Sheelhase as the OC, I think you can take one of those QBs and help him shine.
It’s talent of course but it’s also very important to have a great system and coaching.
The correct HC and OC can and will help Will Howard as well.
 
steelhurt said:
On the QBs that are out there that we could sign as a stopgap until the 2027 draft I’d say Willis or Mack Brown.
System really matters and great coaching matters.
Mack Brown played well in relief of Purdy in a great offensive system under Kyle Shanahan and Klay Kubiak.
Take Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft, same draft as Kenny Pickett. Look at how well he’s developed under that system.
Then there is Malik Willis the backup in GB. Played well as a backup to Love in a great offensive system under Matt LeFleur.
System does matter and can get the most out of these marginally talented QBs.
Now if we hire Shula and he brings in Sheelhase as the OC, I think you can take one of those QBs and help him shine.
It’s talent of course but it’s also very important to have a great system and coaching.
The correct HC and OC can and will help Will Howard as well.
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And the Houston backup possibly a low cost trade..
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Tomlin would be hired already if he wanted a job and we would have compensation. Probably from the Giants. As has been reported repeatedly Tomlin doesn’t want to coach next year and maybe not again.
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Steelers still have his rights. Compensation would/ might have to be given. No?
 
steelhurt said:
Davis Mills is not a bad player at all Slash.
Got to see him play when CJ was out this year and he did a very nice job.
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Could be enough to carry us a season or at worst cast better back-up than Rudy.



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