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Let's be honest Steelers got lucky

TimesAreChanged said:
He did not need to get another foot down

Read the rule and stop spreading nonsense
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You apparently can't read.... He caught the ball with his arms extended #1. #2 He got two feet down. As for #3 he did not tuck the ball, extend the ball, or get an additional foot down as the rule states. He just kinda ran with the ball out and porter knocked it out before the 3rd foot hit. Which football act do you feel he completed to satisfy #3?!? I also did not see anywhere the NFL said the call was wrong as some have stated on here. The call that was wrong was the personal foul call on the FG.
 
jitter77 said:
You apparently can't read.... He caught the ball with his arms extended #1. #2 He got two feet down. As for #3 he did not tuck the ball, extend the ball, or get an additional foot down as the rule states. He just kinda ran with the ball out and porter knocked it out before the 3rd foot hit. Which football act do you feel he completed to satisfy #3?!? I also did not see anywhere the NFL said the call was wrong as some have stated on here. The call that was wrong was the personal foul call on the FG.
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And four points less doesn’t get the rats a victory.

They lost legitimately to a schematically challenged team.
 
BLITZ said:
I did. Multiple times.

No football move.
Once again they should change thebrule.. but the refs made the right call.
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He caught the ball and immediately extended his arms to shield from the defender. That was the football move, as stated in the rulebook.

The Steelers got over.
 
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WindyCitySteel said:
He caught the ball and immediately extended his arms to shield from the defender. That was the football move, as stated in the rulebook.

The Steelers got over.
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Not what the film is showing I think most disagree with this take. Again a ****** rule but a correct call.
 
Whether the football move was 'extending his arms' or the football move should have been pulling the ball in, very hard to say exactly. I believe Tomlin should have addressed it and asked for clarification from the league office for the simple fact is that in the next four weeks we may see a Steelers TE do the same thing and it NOT be a touchdown when most of us want it to be. If MT showed concern we may benefit from that in future.

Then there is the 'defenseless player' crap. Sorry Steelers fans, that includes me, that was some BS. yes Boz would have made it and we would have won anyway, but still....the Steelers are barely hanging on, coaching and schematically we suck, but we don't want to eventually get "jobbed' by the refs.
 
slashsteel said:
Steelers were robbed of bullshit rules before, so it just was the rats turn. They want it to change lobby to get the dumb arse rule changed.

Not the refs fault the rule is in place.
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I agree, We have been robbed too. it's wrong no matter who the teams are
Thats the point. They call whatever they want and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Did you see the end of the Bronco Raider game with the crazy delay of game and meaningless last second FG to allow the Raiders to cover because 80% of the bets were on the Broncos.
It's hard to believe its on the up and up.
 
insaniti said:
You're the one that needs to read the rule. The "extend the ball" refers to reaching for line to gain or to break the plain of the endzone.

He needed the third element of the current catch rule. He did not...all of this would be a moot point had he not relaxed and had the ball so easily jarred loose from his hands. Porter didn't even hit the ball or his hands, he hit the underside of his triceps...

Right or wrong call (it was the right call), you whining about it isn't going to change the rule. I bet it doesn't even get addressed in the off season at the team meetings.
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Read the damn rule so you can make a substantive argument

All of the elements of a catch were present
 
jitter77 said:
You apparently can't read.... He caught the ball with his arms extended #1. #2 He got two feet down. As for #3 he did not tuck the ball, extend the ball, or get an additional foot down as the rule states. He just kinda ran with the ball out and porter knocked it out before the 3rd foot hit. Which football act do you feel he completed to satisfy #3?!? I also did not see anywhere the NFL said the call was wrong as some have stated on here. The call that was wrong was the personal foul call on the FG.
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Read the entire damn rule not just the parts that appeal to your cognitive bias

Give it a try
 
bigben said:
I agree, We have been robbed too. it's wrong no matter who the teams are
Thats the point. They call whatever they want and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Did you see the end of the Bronco Raider game with the crazy delay of game and meaningless last second FG to allow the Raiders to cover because 80% of the bets were on the Broncos.
It's hard to believe its on the up and up.
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No didn’t catch it. You never know what cheating is involved I tend to think it would be more of an individual doing it if it is taking place. A lot of money on the table with these games. You just never know…
 
BLITZ said:
Sorry this upsets you this much. Again hope you were this upset when it happened to James
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I think the James TD was more of TD than the Ravens, but it's a stupid rule for sure. I think he was keeping the ball extended because the DB was on him, so he couldn't tuck it in, so does that count as the extending the football? possession, two feet down, extending the ball. Like I said, stupid rule, they need to just simplify what a catch is, possession and two feet/body part should be all you need, if that happens then you fall and fumble it's a damn fumble, none of this survive the ground crap.
Where was Rodgers football move when he caught his own pass?
 
TimesAreChanged said:
Read the entire damn rule not just the parts that appeal to your cognitive bias

Give it a try
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I've read "the entire damn rule", the League has come out and said it was the right call. Gene Steratore, who knows more about the rules than any of us, said in the moment, and several times since, that it was the correct call.

But everyone is wrong but you, got it...
 
insaniti said:
I've read "the entire damn rule", the League has come out and said it was the right call. Gene Steratore, who knows more about the rules than any of us, said in the moment, and several times since, that it was the correct call.

But everyone is wrong but you, got it...
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The league is not going to admit they blew three calls in one game

I'm not the only person saying they got it wrong
 
BLITZ said:
Sorry this upsets you this much. Again hope you were this upset when it happened to James
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It doesn't matter who gets shafted. It matters that the league picks and chooses who and when

The integrity of the game is what matters.
 
Drink IRON City said:
Not three steps, but a football move

1) possesion
2) two feet or body part in bounds
3) football move

Has to be in that order.

If the receiver would have pulled the ball in close, that would have established a football move, the third step would establish a football move.

Jesse James caught/established possession, knee down in bounds, twisted and extended across the goal line (football move). It was a catch and a TD because anything that happens after breaking the plain, is irrelevant. UNtIL the NY gets ahold of it.




Salute the nation
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#3, the football move should go away. Possession and two feet (but not the same foot twice) is enough. :) Or a knee, forearm, or ****.
What about when you catch the ball with a toe touch? Where is the football move there. Santonio in the SB, Mike Wallace in the front of the left pilon to end the game, etc. THOSE ARE CATCHES because they had possession with two feet down. End of story. No football move necessary there.

BUT, the "football move" allows that interpretation that the NFL loves.
 
TimesAreChanged said:
The league is not going to admit they blew three calls in one game

I'm not the only person saying they got it wrong
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And everyone claiming that is wrong. The way the rule is written right now, it was the correct call. Again, Likely dropped the ball, and he's the only one to truly blame for that call. And it's not a one off for him.

Integrity of the game is hilarious...Did you know Micah Parson's doesn't have a single holding call drawn on him all year? Sound familiar? Watt and Harrison can relate, but you want to talk about integrity of the game.

It was first down. Second down they get 8 yards with a pass to Henry, then couldn't get 2 yards on 3rd and 4th down. It wasn't like it was a fourth down call...You're wrong about the call. It's two average teams, it's not gonna matter at the end of the season, just move on...
 
oicu8ad said:
#3, the football move should go away. Possession and two feet (but not the same foot twice) is enough. :) Or a knee, forearm, or ****.
What about when you catch the ball with a toe touch? Where is the football move there. Santonio in the SB, Mike Wallace in the front of the left pilon to end the game, etc. THOSE ARE CATCHES because they had possession with two feet down. End of story. No football move necessary there.

BUT, the "football move" allows that interpretation that the NFL loves.
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They have defined "football move" things. The football move is the generalized statement floating around on the internet. There is literally a list of things that qualify as football moves that takes "interpretation" out of the equation...
 
insaniti said:
They have defined "football move" things. The football move is the generalized statement floating around on the internet. There is literally a list of things that qualify as football moves that takes "interpretation" out of the equation...
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Where it the list of valid football moves? I'd love to see them.
 
oicu8ad said:
Where it the list of valid football moves? I'd love to see them.
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I believe it is extending an arm, taking a third step, tucking the football if the arm is already extended, falling to the ground and maintaining possession.
 
insaniti said:
You're the one that needs to read the rule. The "extend the ball" refers to reaching for line to gain or to break the plain of the endzone.

He needed the third element of the current catch rule. He did not...all of this would be a moot point had he not relaxed and had the ball so easily jarred loose from his hands. Porter didn't even hit the ball or his hands, he hit the underside of his triceps...

Right or wrong call (it was the right call), you whining about it isn't going to change the rule. I bet it doesn't even get addressed in the off season at the team meetings.
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Do you know what the definition of insanity is? Trying to argue with a troll and expect them to admit they are wrong
 
oicu8ad said:
#3, the football move should go away. Possession and two feet (but not the same foot twice) is enough. :) Or a knee, forearm, or ****.
What about when you catch the ball with a toe touch? Where is the football move there. Santonio in the SB, Mike Wallace in the front of the left pilon to end the game, etc. THOSE ARE CATCHES because they had possession with two feet down. End of story. No football move necessary there.

BUT, the "football move" allows that interpretation that the NFL loves.
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Exactly. It gives them a gray area to work in

Football move or enough time to make a football move
 
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