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Tariffs

In my opinion, I believe the main purpose of the tariffs was to get financial, manufacturing, and contractual agreements that would bring back many jobs and trillions of dollars of investments this country from overseas.

It also had a unexpected secondary benefit in the Geo political landscape. I don’t believe many of us thought there would not be some short term discomfort.

It has definitely achieved both of those goals
 
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In my opinion, I believe the main purpose of the tariffs was to get financial, manufacturing, and contractual agreements that would bring back many jobs in trillions of dollars of an investmentto this country from overseas.

It also had a unexpected secondary benefit in the Geo political landscape. I don’t think any people I don’t believe many of us thought there would not be some short term discomfort.

It has definitely achieved both of those goals
Problem is that people have no patience. They expect Trump or any other politician to just roll up with a magic wand and fix everything in about 15 seconds because they said they would. Trump also doesn’t help himself when he says that prices will be lower on day one and stuff like that. It creates unrealistic expectations. There’s a poll on FoxNews that shows republicans and democrats are unhappy with the economy and a litany of other issues. It’s not great out there. Gas prices are better, but 10 grocery items shouldn’t cost $60 or $70. The shutdown didn’t help him either, regardless of who is to blame.
 
Problem is that people have no patience. They expect Trump or any other politician to just roll up with a magic wand and fix everything in about 15 seconds because they said they would. Trump also doesn’t help himself when he says that prices will be lower on day one and stuff like that. It creates unrealistic expectations. There’s a poll on FoxNews that shows republicans and democrats are unhappy with the economy and a litany of other issues. It’s not great out there. Gas prices are better, but 10 grocery items shouldn’t cost $60 or $70. The shutdown didn’t help him either, regardless of who is to blame.
The grocery prices are a legacy gift from Biden.

The people are not happy with the economy because the media tells them not to be. It's improving after the worst performance of the economy in a long time.

But, the media won't say that.
 
In my opinion, I believe the main purpose of the tariffs was to get financial, manufacturing, and contractual agreements that would bring back many jobs and trillions of dollars of investments this country from overseas.

It also had a unexpected secondary benefit in the Geo political landscape. I don’t believe many of us thought there would not be some short term discomfort.

It has definitely achieved both of those goals
Sure, for steel, pharmaceuticals, chips, etc that makes sense.

How does coffee, bananas or OJ fit in? Geopolitics or financial, manufacturing, contractual agreements?

C'mon man. Coffee started as a dumb tariff and was removed because it was dumb and harms Americans, just like bananas, OJ, etc.

The next round of tariff cuts will be more instructive, because there is clear evidence --- coffee tariff removed--- of dumb, pointless harm to American consumers.
 
which country?

No, they cannot as its attached to coffee. They can choose coffee or not, like Covid shots or not.

Dude, free markets do not have tariffs attached willy nilly, at the whim of anyone. Check your terms.

No, it was put in place by Trump, then removed by Trump. How is that not governmental control? If water was tariffed, would you also suggest that water tariff is voluntary?
I get it, we have different opinions on this tariff issue, but It seems to be more a semantics thing than real differences.
 
I don't know what coffee costs in Starbucks because I never go there. The coffee i buy used to be $12 for 36 Oz. Then it was $12 for 30 Oz. Then $14. Now its $20 for 30 Oz can.
 
I get it, we have different opinions on this tariff issue, but It seems to be more a semantics thing than real differences.
A stupid coffee tax is kinda similar to the the start of the Boston Tea thingy, right?

Semantics? Lol. Not at all.

Trump is losing people, especially young folks, because of dumbassery -- from him --- on many topics, like this.

He looks clumsy and vindictive at the same time, and some folks at the margin are getting tired of his narcissism.
 
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