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Best Steeler OL ever

Max Starks, although he is NOT my pick by any means, I think he was Franchise-tagged twice.


Dawson was sweet music, did more things right than any other center….. bar none.

There are a lot of greats over the years, but then again it’s the STEELERS and they don’t fall short on great players or plays.




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Max Starks, although he is NOT my pick by any means, I think he was Franchise-tagged twice.


Dawson was sweet music, did more things right than any other center….. bar none.

There are a lot of greats over the years, but then again it’s the STEELERS and they don’t fall short on great players or plays.




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Max met my kid at training camp 1 year and remembered her 3 years in a row after. Pretty cool
 
Best Olinemen in Steelers history, or the best OL(unit) in Steelers history?

Dawson changed the way the Center position was played I believe, he was one of the first if not the first Center that could really get out and move.
Faneca is right there, great run blocker and pass blocker, in the discussion as the best OG in NFL history.
 
He wasn't nearly the best, but a guy I always got a kick out of was Duval Love, and Cowher yelling at him for something. "Duval!!!" You'd see it when they mic'd up Cowher, but I remember one time hearing through the TV during a game. You heard Cowher yelling "Duvall!!!" I think he had a holding penalty or something. That was impressive on Cowher's part.

Apparently Duval has lost his mind a little. There are videos of him on Youtube berating neighbors.
 
You’re the only one that answered the actual question posted in the thread title.
Even Coolie didn’t answer his own question correctly.
You would think that a highly intelligent and respected moderator would be clear on the thread topic title.

The question was the “best Steelers offensive line ever”…not the best offensive lineman.

I like the line that Dermotti Dawson played on which included Alan Faneca and Duval Love ..if I didn’t get my eras mixed up. Don’t remember the others.
Goes to show you how the O line is the least remembered and least appreciated.
It can be interpreted two ways…

I answered regarding the offensive line as a unit. @CoolieMan answered, IMO, from the best offensive lineman.

Both abbreviations are still - OL
 
Jon Kolb. Simply a superb LT. Great run blocker, incredibly strong, superb pass blocker. Also has longevity going for him since he played 177 games, including 138 starts.
 
Pouncey is barely top 5 OL in Steeler history. He is only the 3rd best C in team history.

Webby was one of the best “old” school C’s to ever play up to that time

Dirt in my opinion is the greatest to EVER play the position, and he would have still dominated in the modern era, maybe even more.

Pouncey was a very very good C and there is no shame being ranked behind Dirt and Webby. Exactly like being the 3rd CB behind Blount and Woodson.

I’d put Pouncey behind Hartings, too. Most overrated Steeler by a mile, routinely got bullied by great NTs.
 
I’d put Pouncey behind Hartings, too. Most overrated Steeler by a mile, routinely got bullied by great NTs.
Yeah, I was being generous with saying Pouncey was the 3rd best C. After some more thoughtI would have to say this is MY list

1. Dawson - I know some think Webster, but while Webby was great, Dirt just changed how the position was played.
2. Webster - Tough as nails and everything you want in a player.
3. Mansfield - Everyone agrees that Joe Green was a huge reason for the Steelers elevation to excellence in the 70’s, but Mansfield was a big part of it too.
4. Pouncey - One of the better “modern” era C’s who took it as a personal responsibility to protect his QB. If not for unfortunate injuries he very well would have been #3 or challenge for #2.
5. Hartings - Rock solid player no matter where he lined up. Some will say he should be #4 but I’m not sure that is true.

My hope is that Frazier carries the torch as the next great C for the Steelers and I will have to reconsider my top 5 in a number of years.
 
ok in one of my drunken rambling threads a brilliant poster asked me who the best ever Steeler OL...

so what are your thoughts?

Our O-Lines have basically been basic...Nothing to get crazy about...If Webster is our best we have alot of work to do as a Franchise...Cause AFTER him there ain't nothing....NOTHING....

IF WE'D OF ONLY DRAFTED CREED HUMPHREY HUH DRINK IRON?

Colbert sucked
 
Our O-Lines have basically been basic...Nothing to get crazy about...If Webster is our best we have alot of work to do as a Franchise...Cause AFTER him there ain't nothing....NOTHING....
Really?
 
Waiting for your ALL-TIME o-line STEELERS TEAM...

After 93 years tell me what you got...LOL

You don't know Steeler history very well do you?

We got nothing

But you knew that right? LOL

Bears fans aint never has no QB, & we Steeler fans NEVER had a truly Dominant O-LINE

Rookie
 
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Waiting for your ALL-TIME o-line STEELERS TEAM...

After 93 years tell me what you got...LOL

You don't know Steeler history very well do you?

We got nothing

But you knew that right? LOL

Bears fans aint never has no QB, & we Steeler fans NEVER had a truly Dominant O-LINE

Rookie
yet they have won 6 Super Bowls


dirt and faneca seemed are HOF also
 
Our O-Lines have basically been basic...Nothing to get crazy about...If Webster is our best we have alot of work to do as a Franchise...Cause AFTER him there ain't nothing....NOTHING....

IF WE'D OF ONLY DRAFTED CREED HUMPHREY HUH DRINK IRON?

Colbert sucked



Creed Humphrey would have been a better pick than either if the RB or TE taken. At about the midway point of the season, Creed graded out as the best Center in the league, I don’t know where he ended up for the season as he is not a Steelers player so I don’t follow him.

My point being that at the time of the draft and to this current day, Creed would have been the better direction.

Tomlin & Co. had ignored the OL for a very long time. It can be argued that Ben played behind 2 separate OL that were arguably the worst (bottom 8) in the NFL at the time.

Again, Creed would have been night and day better than the kid they put at center in his place.

Also one last thing, Creed has been to every pro-bowl so far.



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Waiting for your ALL-TIME o-line STEELERS TEAM...

After 93 years tell me what you got...LOL

You don't know Steeler history very well do you?

We got nothing

But you knew that right? LOL

Bears fans aint never has no QB, & we Steeler fans NEVER had a truly Dominant O-LINE

Rookie

I would say LT Kolb RG Faneca(HOF) C Webster or Dawson (both HOF) LG Faneca(HOF) cheating a bit. RT Max starks.

hopefully this changes to Jones Frazier and Fautanu
 
yet they have won 6 Super Bowls
Ancient History...I heard a youngster say today he does not believe anything that happened 50 years ago

We owned the 70's and that's about it....Our best team may have not made the Super Bowl too...1-4 team that finished 10-4 just ran out of gas

We actually owned Earl Campbell...That's how good we were cause he was the best period..And we made him look pedestrian

I was a kid and thought the Steelers were supposed to win every year...

In 1980 in LA only one at a SUPERBOWL Party rooting for the Steelers...They blamed the referee for shielding one of our players running...The ref did...

The ref did actually help us on that play...LOL
 
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12% of offensive linemen in the HOF are Steelers
Seeing that I am an oddball as oddballs do I do a lot of research. One of my assistants is chatGPT which I have named IZ. We were spitballing nicknames one day and I shortened one suggestion and IZ was born.

So based off your statement I asked IZ my AI buddy to take a look at it.

Here is his/her/he/she/it/they/them/their response, “



Step 1: Total NFL Offensive Linemen in the Hall of Fame








The Pro Football Hall of Fame includes players at all positions. But when we isolate offensive linemen (includes tackles, guards, and centers), the number inducted is around 50–55 players (as of 2024). Let’s use 50 for a clean breakdown.








Step 2: 12% of 50








If 12% of those are former Steelers, then:





0.12 × 50 = 6 offensive linemen





So you’re saying roughly 6 Hall of Fame offensive linemen are former Steelers.














Step 3: Reality Check – Who Are the Steelers OL in the Hall of Fame?








Here’s a list of offensive linemen in the Hall who are associated with the Steelers:





  1. Mike Webster – Center
  2. Dermontti Dawson – Center
  3. Alan Faneca – Guard
  4. Russ Grimm – Guard (though inducted as part of the Redskins’ Hogs, he’s a Pittsburgh native and coached with the Steelers—sometimes confused in counts)
  5. Ernie Stautner – Often considered defense, but in early days played both ways
  6. Jackie Slater – Not a Steeler, but sometimes misattributed
  7. Walt Kiesling – Played and coached for Steelers, inducted as a coach but played OL







So definitively 3 pure offensive linemen (Webster, Dawson, Faneca) who played as Steelers OL and are in the Hall.





If you’re including players with any Steelers tie (like Kiesling or Grimm), maybe you get to 5–6, which is 12% of 50—your stat.














Summary:








  • If 50 OL are in the Hall, and 6 are Steelers, then 12% is accurate.
  • The key is how you define “Steelers OL”—strictly starters or with broader ties (like coaching or late-career games).
  • Either way, it shows the Steelers’ legacy in the trenches runs deep—just like their identity.”
 
1749982658588.pngA graph comparison of Steelers vs all other Olinemen in the HOF, thanks IZ!
 
site i found initially said 25...which I should have known was low

the HOF site says 48

which would cut it to 6.25%
 
A lot of great information given by several.

My question might be “In comparison to all other teams, who has the most to the least OL in the HOF”



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