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Josh wins MVP
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He deserved it he pretty much carried that team IMO.
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yep I was pulling for him to win it.
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Good for him. I'm pretty sure it was down to him and Lamar.
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Allen should've won last year. I would've voted for Allen or Saquon this year. They probably should have the MVP award as well as a Most Outstanding Player award.
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Absolutely deserving of this award. Josh Allen IS the Buffalo Bills. Without him they don’t get close to making the playoffs. Maybe not even non losing season we’ve been so accustomed to around here.
Josh means more to his team’s success than maybe any player in the league right there with Mahomes and Lamar.
Glad he won!
Josh means more to his team’s success than maybe any player in the league right there with Mahomes and Lamar.
Glad he won!
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Jackson deserved that award, and even as much as I hate everything Ravens, I could see that. Jackson led every single category, by a fair amount, except rushing TD's.
We have now seen two seasons in a row where the leader in all but one head to head category does not win. I'm sorry but they should just change it from NFL MVP to NFL DEI and be done with it. I am not a fan of Jackson, but honestly what more could he have done, that supposedly Allen did?
The year that TJ tied the sack record and eclipsed every other player, he should have won the DPOY and MVP. He should have also won DPOY last year too.
These awards and Pro Bowl listings are no longer even legitimate. Then again when the NFL has become the joke it is, why wouldn't the "awards" be too.
We have now seen two seasons in a row where the leader in all but one head to head category does not win. I'm sorry but they should just change it from NFL MVP to NFL DEI and be done with it. I am not a fan of Jackson, but honestly what more could he have done, that supposedly Allen did?
The year that TJ tied the sack record and eclipsed every other player, he should have won the DPOY and MVP. He should have also won DPOY last year too.
These awards and Pro Bowl listings are no longer even legitimate. Then again when the NFL has become the joke it is, why wouldn't the "awards" be too.
Jackson had a red hot Henry and a damn good OC that has developed him.
I am not going to diss Jackson but he had a really good team behind him.
They gutted Buffalo’s defense, guy lost WRs and still willed his team far.
I would pick him for that reason as stats don’t always tell the complete story.
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I don't disagree on this, but would you still feel the same if it were Ben under the same conditions? If Allen was close on every category, maybe you could use that argument. Jackson should not be penalized because he has a supporting cast.
The NFL MVP is not the "He played really good without an All Star cast" award
Every team loses players, so did Baltimore, big deal.
That is a fair argument, and I can see it. I just equate it to last years DPOY award that TJ got screwed out of with the same rational. Garrett got it because he "Almost Got there" a lot of times, while they guy that did get there lost out.
Don't get me wrong, I am not losing sleep over Jackson getting screwed, just pointing out that these awards are more about DEI than actually accomplishments.
Garrett had to field all the questions about his game lacking vs TJ's last year, Allen will get to enjoy those questions this year.
Meh Allen probably had a better year than Lamar last year. They gave it to Lamar for narrative reasons... Lamar probably had a better year this year but they owed Allen one...
Its not a legit award in my eyes... its a popularity contest for qbs...
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Won more games? Allen showed up in big moments. Second best record in the AFC. Both did something no other QB ever did, Allen just won more.
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There a guy in KC #15 that watched that show and said " I'll show them Sunday night who the MVP is again" You gotta beat the man to be the man! Hope I'm wrong but it is what it is. They are here for at least 5 more years to.
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Wish he was our qb
Id have given it to Barclay and given Jackson offensive award. Let's just change name to the top QB.
Then he should have learned to play QB like Lamar did... the media forgot you can vote for any position for MVP long ago
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Agreed it is QB heavy. But Barkley 100% changed that team into a Super Bowl team. Nothing again Hurts, Allen or Jackson but Barkley made that team what it is
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Why? Tomlin wouldn't let him thrown in the middle of the field either.
Curious as to why/how you think a white guy getting the MVP award over a black guy with better overall stats is DEI-related. Explain that one to me.
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Meh.....It should have went to Jackson. The one year he truly deserved it he loses it. Kind of ironic.
| Statistic | Lamar Jackson | Josh Allen |
| Completion percentage | 66.7 | 63.6 |
| Passing yards | 4,172 | 3,731 |
| Yards per attempt | 8.8 | 7.7 |
| Passing touchdowns | 41 | 28 |
| Interceptions | 4 | 6 |
| Passer rating | 119.6 | 101.4 looks like DPOY between TJ when he was myles ahead of Garrett in stats |
They both had good RBs who scored 16 TDs in Henry and Cook
Lamar outrushed Allen but Allen had more TDs rushing
| Statistic | Lamar Jackson | Josh Allen |
| Rushing yards | 915 | 531 |
| Rushing yards per attempt | 6.6 | 5.2 |
| Rushing touchdowns | 4 | 12 |
Lamar also became the all time leading rusher for a QB in history of the NFL ....... in ...what his 7th season ....
So of all his years in the league I thought this would have been his best ever....
Awards and the league in general are suspect for sure
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Wilson has never been a qb who utilized the middle of the field.
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Lol......Tomlin's offense doesn't throw into the middle of the field for a reason. Even Ben's last season he was squashed until the 4th quarter and Ben did his own thing.......to the results of 7 fourth quarter come from behind victories. It simply is what it is.......until Rooney mandates Tomlin to change. I won't be holding my breath on that front though.
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Rooney can “mandate” anything he wants but it won’t matter. Tomlin has been shown there is no accountability from ownership. Unless Rooney says “you’re done”, there won’t be anything that scares Coach Tomlin into doing anything he doesn’t deem his way.
We are in a cauldron, ownership & coaching haven’t had any accountability towards the franchise stewardship in quite some time.
Salute the nation