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That disgusting POS may well get out of jail in August. The Patriots are sleeze, so I could see him there. Sickening that he's already up for parole.
Will the Patriots pick up Henry Ruggs?
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His parole hearing is in August, signs that he'll get out. More of a joke about the Patriots, but would not be surprised if they picked him up at the jailhouse.
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What made you arrive at that conclusion, Spygate, Deflate-gate, Kraft’s West Palm issue? I don’t remember a lot of disciplinary issues being entertained or allowed in Foxborough. Those type of characters don’t typically get a long leash. Regarding Spy-gate, I’d be shocked if they were the first to attempt something like that. Steelers fans have an axe to grind with the Pats’ organization. It seems warranted, yet unwarranted. It’s been ten years and people are way too tribal about sports. At this point, it comes off like jilted lover syndrome. If this was a serious real world concern like having a hundred million dollar company slid out from under your nose or a nasty divorce or the tragic and wrongful death of a loved one, I would get the animosity. At the end of the day, it’s just sport. Enjoy it for what it is. Concerning Mr. Ruggs, heck, LV seems as likely a landing spot as any. On the other hand, concerns may arise due to the nature of the crime, location and public opinion. Also, realistically, the probability that he is in NFL shape or close to game speed is slim to none. If the Pats were looking for a similar skill and size, inquire with the Browns on their relationship with Bond. It’d be way less of a PR nightmare.
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Its not just Marsha and handjob Bob. They willing took in Hernandez, and seem just fine with Vrabel's very public tarnishing of the shield. At least they quickly moved on from SuperDad Diggs and his WAP star.
See above
What was the economic value of each of the tainted SBs worth to the Cheatriots vs other NFL teams, including the Steelers? Maybe that is hard to quantify, but a SB win clearly sends many millions more towards the winning team and it's players; they enjoy this for the rest of their careers, and beyond. What would a couple more SBs have done for the Steelers, Pittsburgh and Big Ben?
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1.) Hernandez got in a bar incident at UF and probably was involved in some minor things as a juvenile (which may be sealed.) (I double checked this to be certain.) His draft stock was affected by his behavior. For reference, he was drafted in 2010, match that to his criminal record. Professional athletes in a contact sport, getting in fights? Man, I don’t know. There’s a lot of testosterone and god knows what supplements flying around with the whey. For reference, AB assaulted a security guard at FIU and got kicked out.
2.) You’re assuming the Steelers would’ve won. It’s extremely hypothetical.
3.) I prefer a teaspoon of reason with my cup of fan-hood. Think you took that one too far, that seems like an ad hominem attack to me. Mods throw a flag.
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Here is your " he was in a bar incident":
In January 2013, Hernandez and Bradley partied at Cure again.[82] At 2:20 a.m., Bradley was pulled over on the Southeast Expressway after his vehicle was seen speeding at 105 miles per hour.[82] According to the State Police he was "wobbly drunk".[82] Hernandez tried to get his friend out of trouble by saying, "Trooper, I am Aaron Hernandez. It's okay."[82] Bradley was arrested for drunk driving.[82]
2013 Miami shooting of Alexander Bradley
In February 2013, Hernandez, Bradley, and several others visited a Florida strip club where they had a $10,000 bill.[71] Hernandez began to worry about two men sitting across from them, thinking they were plainclothes Boston police officers.[71] Bradley later recalled telling Hernandez that they were probably tracking the pair as part of their investigation into the double murder outside the Cure.[71]
Hernandez and Bradley had a troubled relationship at this point.[71] Bradley claimed that on February 13, 2013, during the same trip, he woke up in a car with Hernandez pointing a gun at his face.[71] The next morning, police found Bradley lying in a parking lot and bleeding from a bullet hole between his eyes.[71] Bradley survived, but lost his right eye.[71] He did not cooperate with police,[clarification needed] and sought revenge.[71]
The pair would trade more than 500 text messages in the next three months, which included death threats and attempts at extortion.[71] Bradley told Hernandez that he had "semiautomatic weapons, bulletproof vests, and a crew that ran six deep".[71] Hernandez's agent tried, unsuccessfully, to settle the matter quietly.[71] Bradley demanded $5 million to keep his silence, and Hernandez countered with $1.5 million.[71] Bradley then asked for $2.5 million.[71] Hernandez did not respond, and went to see his lawyer.[71]
On June 13, 2013, Bradley filed a civil lawsuit for damages against Hernandez in a Florida federal court.[89] He withdrew the suit four days later, giving the two a chance to work out a settlement without the media knowing about it.[71][90][91] On September 3, 2013, Hernandez's lawyers filed a postponement request in federal court until his murder charges were resolved. In February 2016, Hernandez reached a settlement with Bradley over the lawsuit. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.[92]
On May 11, 2015, Hernandez was indicted for witness intimidation in relation to the Bradley shooting, since Bradley was reportedly a witness to the 2012 Boston double homicide. The intimidation charge for Hernandez carried a maximum penalty of ten years in prison.[93][94][95] This charge was included in Hernandez's trial for the double homicide, which began on March 1, 2017.[96] During the trial, it was revealed Bradley texted his lawyer about the shooting in a deleted text message, which read: "Now u sure once I withdraw this lawsuit I wont be held on perjury after I tell the truth about me not recalling anything about who shot me."[97] According to Hernandez, the shooting of Bradley was the result of a drug deal gone wrong. "Aaron was telling us that there was a drug deal that was going on and it went bad and [Alexander Bradley] he was pissed at Aaron for vouching for these guys," his attorney Jose Baez said in an interview.[98]
Hernandez was later acquitted of the charge of witness intimidation by a jury on April 14, 2017. They found Hernandez guilty on one count of illegal possession of firearms and acquitted him of all other charges in the murders of de Abreu and Furtado.[99]
2013 California incidents
Hernandez traveled to California with Jenkins and their young daughter in 2013 to have shoulder surgery.[71] While there, Jenkins called the police twice in less than a week, claiming that Hernandez was drunk and violent.[71] In the first incident, Hernandez put his hand through a window.[71] Hernandez's brother and friends later said that there were drugs and guns in the rented apartment, but police determined that Jenkins and the child were not in danger and never searched the premises.[71] D.J. Hernandez found his brother alone on the roof of the building one night, looking defeated and rubbing the barrel of a gun against his face.[71]
In January 2013, Hernandez and Bradley partied at Cure again.[82] At 2:20 a.m., Bradley was pulled over on the Southeast Expressway after his vehicle was seen speeding at 105 miles per hour.[82] According to the State Police he was "wobbly drunk".[82] Hernandez tried to get his friend out of trouble by saying, "Trooper, I am Aaron Hernandez. It's okay."[82] Bradley was arrested for drunk driving.[82]
2013 Miami shooting of Alexander Bradley
In February 2013, Hernandez, Bradley, and several others visited a Florida strip club where they had a $10,000 bill.[71] Hernandez began to worry about two men sitting across from them, thinking they were plainclothes Boston police officers.[71] Bradley later recalled telling Hernandez that they were probably tracking the pair as part of their investigation into the double murder outside the Cure.[71]
Hernandez and Bradley had a troubled relationship at this point.[71] Bradley claimed that on February 13, 2013, during the same trip, he woke up in a car with Hernandez pointing a gun at his face.[71] The next morning, police found Bradley lying in a parking lot and bleeding from a bullet hole between his eyes.[71] Bradley survived, but lost his right eye.[71] He did not cooperate with police,[clarification needed] and sought revenge.[71]
The pair would trade more than 500 text messages in the next three months, which included death threats and attempts at extortion.[71] Bradley told Hernandez that he had "semiautomatic weapons, bulletproof vests, and a crew that ran six deep".[71] Hernandez's agent tried, unsuccessfully, to settle the matter quietly.[71] Bradley demanded $5 million to keep his silence, and Hernandez countered with $1.5 million.[71] Bradley then asked for $2.5 million.[71] Hernandez did not respond, and went to see his lawyer.[71]
On June 13, 2013, Bradley filed a civil lawsuit for damages against Hernandez in a Florida federal court.[89] He withdrew the suit four days later, giving the two a chance to work out a settlement without the media knowing about it.[71][90][91] On September 3, 2013, Hernandez's lawyers filed a postponement request in federal court until his murder charges were resolved. In February 2016, Hernandez reached a settlement with Bradley over the lawsuit. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.[92]
On May 11, 2015, Hernandez was indicted for witness intimidation in relation to the Bradley shooting, since Bradley was reportedly a witness to the 2012 Boston double homicide. The intimidation charge for Hernandez carried a maximum penalty of ten years in prison.[93][94][95] This charge was included in Hernandez's trial for the double homicide, which began on March 1, 2017.[96] During the trial, it was revealed Bradley texted his lawyer about the shooting in a deleted text message, which read: "Now u sure once I withdraw this lawsuit I wont be held on perjury after I tell the truth about me not recalling anything about who shot me."[97] According to Hernandez, the shooting of Bradley was the result of a drug deal gone wrong. "Aaron was telling us that there was a drug deal that was going on and it went bad and [Alexander Bradley] he was pissed at Aaron for vouching for these guys," his attorney Jose Baez said in an interview.[98]
Hernandez was later acquitted of the charge of witness intimidation by a jury on April 14, 2017. They found Hernandez guilty on one count of illegal possession of firearms and acquitted him of all other charges in the murders of de Abreu and Furtado.[99]
2013 California incidents
Hernandez traveled to California with Jenkins and their young daughter in 2013 to have shoulder surgery.[71] While there, Jenkins called the police twice in less than a week, claiming that Hernandez was drunk and violent.[71] In the first incident, Hernandez put his hand through a window.[71] Hernandez's brother and friends later said that there were drugs and guns in the rented apartment, but police determined that Jenkins and the child were not in danger and never searched the premises.[71] D.J. Hernandez found his brother alone on the roof of the building one night, looking defeated and rubbing the barrel of a gun against his face.[71]
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Oops, that was the later stuff as a contributing member of the Cheatriots.
Here is a part of the earlier stuff, but you are correct, much is likely hidden because of his age:
Hernandez had a number of run-ins with the law throughout his life, beginning just a few months after he arrived in Florida as a pre-freshman. By his own admission, Hernandez became jumpy in nightclubs, and had a history of taking offense at minor slights.[71] He also said that he believed people were trying to physically challenge him and were looking to fight him.[71]
Acquaintances described Hernandez as a follower who put himself in jeopardy by hanging out with a dangerous crowd.[19] As a Patriot, Hernandez hired two of his friends from Bristol, both of whom had criminal records, as assistants.[19] One of them, Alexander S. Bradley, was his drug dealer.[19] As Hernandez's assistant, Bradley's other duties included calming Hernandez down during fits of rage and paranoia, and obtaining weapons for him.[19] After his death, his high school teammate Dennis SanSoucie said that being drafted by the Patriots "was the worst thing the NFL could have done" because it put him back into close proximity to the criminal friends he had in Connecticut.[19]
Hernandez had a second apartment that was kept a secret from his fiancée Shayanna Jenkins. It was used to store drugs and weapons.[19][71] He would often go there to chain smoke marijuana.[15] In 2012, Hernandez told his agent that he got his respect through weapons.[9] Boston Police detectives once questioned Hernandez outside of a local bar, but the circumstances around the interview are unclear.[19]
While in prison, he told a fellow prisoner that he was a member of the Bloods.[70]
2007 Gainesville bar fight
On April 28, 2007, according to a police report in Gainesville, Florida, a 17-year-old Hernandez consumed two alcoholic drinks in a restaurant with Tim Tebow, refused to pay the bill, and was escorted out by a restaurant employee.[14] As the manager walked away, Hernandez "sucker punched" him on the side of the head, rupturing his eardrum.[14]
The police responded at 1:17 a.m.[14] Hernandez called Coach Urban Meyer, and Meyer called Huntley Johnson, the team's unofficial defense lawyer.[14] The victim later told police that he had been contacted by lawyers and the team and that a settlement was being worked out, something the team denied.[14] The police department recommended charging Hernandez with felony battery, but the incident was settled out of court with a deferred prosecution agreement.[77][78]
2007 Gainesville double shooting
On September 30, 2007, someone approached a car containing Randall Carson, Justin Glass, and Corey Smith on foot and fired five shots while they were waiting at a Gainesville traffic light after having left a nightclub. Smith was shot in the back of the head, and Glass was shot in the arm. Both men survived. Carson, a back-seat passenger, was unharmed, and told police that the shooter was a "Hawaiian" or "Hispanic" male with a large build weighing about 230 lb (100 kg) and having many tattoos.[79] He picked a photo of Hernandez out of a police lineup.[14]
The police told Meyer's personal assistant that they wanted to see Hernandez and two teammates immediately.[14] Detectives "kept pushing coaches" to bring the players to the station, but they did not arrive for four hours.[14] In the interim, the players spoke with Johnson, the attorney who often represented players.[14] The other players cooperated with police, but Hernandez invoked his right to counsel and refused to talk to police.[14][79] When police walked into the room to speak to Hernandez, the last of the players to be interviewed, they found him with his head down on the table and sleeping, a posture they said was unusual for someone in the middle of a shooting investigation.[14]
No charges were filed at the time but, due to his 2013 arrest and subsequent conviction for the murder of Odin Lloyd, Massachusetts authorities contacted police in Florida to try to determine whether Hernandez was suspected to have a role in the 2007 shooting.[79] Detective Tom Mullins, who was assigned to reinvestigate the shooting, concluded that Hernandez was not the triggerman. Although Carson initially identified Hernandez as such, other witnesses that night described the shooter as looking like a black male, possibly with cornrows. When Mullins re-interviewed Carson, Carson rescinded his statement of the shooter matching Hernandez and said he never saw Hernandez at the scene, but assumed he was the shooter because "they had words earlier at the club".[80]
Here is a part of the earlier stuff, but you are correct, much is likely hidden because of his age:
Hernandez had a number of run-ins with the law throughout his life, beginning just a few months after he arrived in Florida as a pre-freshman. By his own admission, Hernandez became jumpy in nightclubs, and had a history of taking offense at minor slights.[71] He also said that he believed people were trying to physically challenge him and were looking to fight him.[71]
Acquaintances described Hernandez as a follower who put himself in jeopardy by hanging out with a dangerous crowd.[19] As a Patriot, Hernandez hired two of his friends from Bristol, both of whom had criminal records, as assistants.[19] One of them, Alexander S. Bradley, was his drug dealer.[19] As Hernandez's assistant, Bradley's other duties included calming Hernandez down during fits of rage and paranoia, and obtaining weapons for him.[19] After his death, his high school teammate Dennis SanSoucie said that being drafted by the Patriots "was the worst thing the NFL could have done" because it put him back into close proximity to the criminal friends he had in Connecticut.[19]
Hernandez had a second apartment that was kept a secret from his fiancée Shayanna Jenkins. It was used to store drugs and weapons.[19][71] He would often go there to chain smoke marijuana.[15] In 2012, Hernandez told his agent that he got his respect through weapons.[9] Boston Police detectives once questioned Hernandez outside of a local bar, but the circumstances around the interview are unclear.[19]
While in prison, he told a fellow prisoner that he was a member of the Bloods.[70]
2007 Gainesville bar fight
On April 28, 2007, according to a police report in Gainesville, Florida, a 17-year-old Hernandez consumed two alcoholic drinks in a restaurant with Tim Tebow, refused to pay the bill, and was escorted out by a restaurant employee.[14] As the manager walked away, Hernandez "sucker punched" him on the side of the head, rupturing his eardrum.[14]
The police responded at 1:17 a.m.[14] Hernandez called Coach Urban Meyer, and Meyer called Huntley Johnson, the team's unofficial defense lawyer.[14] The victim later told police that he had been contacted by lawyers and the team and that a settlement was being worked out, something the team denied.[14] The police department recommended charging Hernandez with felony battery, but the incident was settled out of court with a deferred prosecution agreement.[77][78]
2007 Gainesville double shooting
On September 30, 2007, someone approached a car containing Randall Carson, Justin Glass, and Corey Smith on foot and fired five shots while they were waiting at a Gainesville traffic light after having left a nightclub. Smith was shot in the back of the head, and Glass was shot in the arm. Both men survived. Carson, a back-seat passenger, was unharmed, and told police that the shooter was a "Hawaiian" or "Hispanic" male with a large build weighing about 230 lb (100 kg) and having many tattoos.[79] He picked a photo of Hernandez out of a police lineup.[14]
The police told Meyer's personal assistant that they wanted to see Hernandez and two teammates immediately.[14] Detectives "kept pushing coaches" to bring the players to the station, but they did not arrive for four hours.[14] In the interim, the players spoke with Johnson, the attorney who often represented players.[14] The other players cooperated with police, but Hernandez invoked his right to counsel and refused to talk to police.[14][79] When police walked into the room to speak to Hernandez, the last of the players to be interviewed, they found him with his head down on the table and sleeping, a posture they said was unusual for someone in the middle of a shooting investigation.[14]
No charges were filed at the time but, due to his 2013 arrest and subsequent conviction for the murder of Odin Lloyd, Massachusetts authorities contacted police in Florida to try to determine whether Hernandez was suspected to have a role in the 2007 shooting.[79] Detective Tom Mullins, who was assigned to reinvestigate the shooting, concluded that Hernandez was not the triggerman. Although Carson initially identified Hernandez as such, other witnesses that night described the shooter as looking like a black male, possibly with cornrows. When Mullins re-interviewed Carson, Carson rescinded his statement of the shooter matching Hernandez and said he never saw Hernandez at the scene, but assumed he was the shooter because "they had words earlier at the club".[80]
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Are you citing Wikipedia as a viable source? I mean, yeah, it works as a cursory reference. It’s not quotable. Point being, prior to his draft, he had one incident at “The Swamp” or whatever that place is called. Serious as it may be, when you view it in relation to AB’s FIU incident, they are similar. They drafted Hernandez, AB was drafted by the Steelers. Arguing that the Steelers are the classier, more moral, more prestigious franchise due to whatever, mixed with whatever hypothetical concoction is crap. Sorry, I know better. Are we in a dispute that both characters are loco? No, who knows how that later saga is going to play out? As for Hernandez, he’s a closed book.
Steelers are better than a franchise that went out of their way to cheat. Got caught and still refused to stop. They lost draft picks and tapes were conveniently destroyed.
So yeah the Steelers got their SBs legitimately and the cheatriots didn’t.
So I would say that makes the Steelers classier, no doubt about it.
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Most of them bend the rules. It’s just wether or not they get caught.
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Let me say this so your smug a$$ can understand it: THE PATRIOTS ARE SLEAZE. Nobody respects them outside of their fans and this eats at all of you Massholes.