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Why Men Get Paid More Than Women for World Cup

I am glad they won, because USA, but man that team was hard to like and I assume that is only going to get worse.

I keep hearing about the goals record for the tournament, but everyone seems to gloss over the fact that 18 of those 26 goals were scored against Chile and Thailand. And for the individual awards, the Gold and Silver boots specifically, Rapinoe and Morgan each had 6 goals. 5 of Morgan's came against Thailand, and 3 or 4 of Rapinoe's were PK's.

To me, while the European teams France, Germany, England, Spain, and Netherlands are pretty good and improving, the rest of the draw was cannon fodder. I mean, Thailand qualified after losing 11 of the 12 previous games they played. And FIFA is talking about expanding the draw for the next World Cup. It isn't going to make the game better have 6 or 8 Thailand's in the draw.

It is great that they won, and they should have won, but the way it is being treated as some monumental achievement is a little over the top. The women's game just isn't as deep as the men's game. Maybe in time, but the US was the easily the best team in a mostly weak field. To lose would have been embarrassing.

As far as the pay, I really don't give a ****. Personally, I think in a perfect world, the women's team would earn more. At least they win tournaments. However, revenue drives the pay scale, and this is what they negotiated in 2017. Maybe they should be pissed at themselves a little for their pay checks.
 
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Tim Steelersfan said:
The woman apparently is simply a complainer. She doesn't "do" anything to help fix these perceived problems she wails about. She just ******* and asks for a spotlight.

Someday she'll make some woman the perfect bitchy wife.
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I wonder if this doesn't date men thing was actually a choice for this one.
 
Sarge said:
I am glad they won, because USA, but man that team was hard to like and I assume that is only going to get worse.

I keep hearing about the goals record for the tournament, but everyone seems to gloss over the fact that 18 of those 26 goals were scored against Chile and Thailand. And for the individual awards, the Gold and Silver boots specifically, Rapinoe and Morgan each had 6 goals. 5 of Morgan's came against Thailand, and 3 or 4 of Rapinoe's were PK's.

To me, while the European teams France, Germany, England, Spain, and Netherlands are pretty good and improving, the rest of the draw was cannon fodder. I mean, Thailand qualified after losing 11 of the 12 previous games they played. And FIFA is talking about expanding the draw for the next World Cup. It isn't going to make the game better have 6 or 8 Thailand's in the draw.

It is great that they won, and they should have won, but the way it is being treated as some monumental achievement is a little over the top. The women's game just isn't as deep as the men's game. Maybe in time, but the US was the easily the best team in a mostly weak field. To lose would have been embarrassing.

As far as the pay, I really don't give a ****. Personally, I think in a perfect world, the women's team would earn more. At least they win tournaments. However, revenue drives the pay scale, and this is what they negotiated in 2017. Maybe they should be pissed at themselves a little for their pay checks.
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yeah, similar to The Dream Team when we unleashed Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley, etc on the world in the Olympics. Everyone knew they were the best, and the bets were what the score difference would be. Remember the reporters saying "x" country gave them more trouble since they "only lost by 47"? Of course, this was in retaliation to the Euro teams using pro players, so no one gave a ****.
 
Sarge said:
It is great that they won, and they should have won, but the way it is being treated as some monumental achievement is a little over the top. .
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To Tibs and his ilk, this was a huge win over Trump. To them, it was more important to win to somehow get a dig in on Trump. Yay we won...fzuck you, Trump. Other than that, I don't think many people really give a **** about soccer. Even less...women's soccer.
 
I just read an article about how if no one invests in the NWSL, European teams will pass the USWNT by because their leagues are so well financed. So, just out of curiosity, I went and did a youtube search for the National Women's Soccer League. Watched a few videos, and they can't be drawing more than an average of 200-300 people per game. A couple videos, there were a lot of people in the stands, but in most, stadiums were practically empty. I feel kinda bad for them, but it's not going to happen. Soccer is the 5th sport in America if it is even that high, and I would wager that women's soccer is even further down the totem pole.

Europeans can afford to invest more, because the people will go to the games even if it is women. They love soccer in Europe. No, they may not sell out a stadium, but the draw would likely be in the thousands. Americans only like soccer during the world cup. MLS does alright I guess, but it isn't on par with anything in Europe. The college system is going to have to sustain women's soccer, because if there is no return there will be no investment. Unless some super wealthy person feels charitable.
 
Sarge said:
I just read an article about how if no one invests in the NWSL, European teams will pass the USWNT by because their leagues are so well financed. So, just out of curiosity, I went and did a youtube search for the National Women's Soccer League. Watched a few videos, and they can't be drawing more than an average of 200-300 people per game. A couple videos, there were a lot of people in the stands, but in most, stadiums were practically empty. I feel kinda bad for them, but it's not going to happen. Soccer is the 5th sport in America if it is even that high, and I would wager that women's soccer is even further down the totem pole.

Europeans can afford to invest more, because the people will go to the games even if it is women. They love soccer in Europe. No, they may not sell out a stadium, but the draw would likely be in the thousands. Americans only like soccer during the world cup. MLS does alright I guess, but it isn't on par with anything in Europe. The college system is going to have to sustain women's soccer, because if there is no return there will be no investment. Unless some super wealthy person feels charitable.
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In the U.S. the better male athletes gravitate to football, basketball, and to a lesser extent, baseball. The better female athletes will gravitate to soccer and to a lesser extent basketball if they're tall.
Our women's team wins the Women's World Cup four times out of the eight times it's been played but our men's team usually gets their ***** handed to them.
 
Superman said:
yeah, similar to The Dream Team when we unleashed Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley, etc on the world in the Olympics. Everyone knew they were the best, and the bets were what the score difference would be. Remember the reporters saying "x" country gave them more trouble since they "only lost by 47"? Of course, this was in retaliation to the Euro teams using pro players, so no one gave a ****.
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Well we are only the second team to go back to back so no one has been extremely dominant. Also you can not compare basketball to soccer. Soccer has been around 2000 years while basketball has only been around since 1891. Basketball is an american sport while soccer is way more popular worldwide. The fact that the women's soccer team was able to catch up to / surpass the rest of the world in such a quick time is an impressive feat that shouldnt be diminished.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
If they weren't making all this fuss about President Trump, no one would give a crap about them.
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That's exactly what it is too. They "stood up" to the evil orange man. To them, that alone is heroic.
 
Sarge said:
That's exactly what it is too. They "stood up" to the evil orange man. To them, that alone is heroic.
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This is not true back in 1999 the US hosted the world cup and there was a 1.2mil total attendance. It was the third highest attendance rate only to 2015 in Canada and this year's 2019 cup. Also the final had the highest attendance of any cup at over 90k people. The US beat China that year and it was highly publicized.
 
If women's soccer is so popular, then why is a 7-year old league with 9 teams only able to pay it's top players $46k a year? Why have two other women's professional leagues folded after just 3 years? Of course there is interest in the world cup, it is the biggest event in the sport with 12 countries participating. Gonna be lots of people. In 1999, there was 1.2 million people in attendance. How many were Americans? How many were from other countries? Soccer isn't real popular in America, and women's soccer is even less popular.

Do you honestly think that if Rapinoe wasn't beefing with Trump, that they would have been invited to the House or Senate? And who invited them? Two people who hate Trump. Give me a break. In two weeks, no one will care.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Here's some questions Trump haters can't answer

What has Trump actually done to harm women?
What has Trump actually done to harm black people?
What has Trump actually done to harm gay people?
What has Trump actually done to make immigration problems worse?

You would think that Trump re-enacted slavery and took away women's right to vote the way the left talks about him.

Trump's sin is that he stopped the socialist agenda.
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He hurt their feewlings when he ***** slapped Hillary on November 8th
 
Sarge said:
If women's soccer is so popular, then why is a 7-year old league with 9 teams only able to pay it's top players $46k a year? Why have two other women's professional leagues folded after just 3 years? Of course there is interest in the world cup, it is the biggest event in the sport with 12 countries participating. Gonna be lots of people. In 1999, there was 1.2 million people in attendance. How many were Americans? How many were from other countries? Soccer isn't real popular in America, and women's soccer is even less popular.

Do you honestly think that if Rapinoe wasn't beefing with Trump, that they would have been invited to the House or Senate? And who invited them? Two people who hate Trump. Give me a break. In two weeks, no one will care.
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Not saying it is super popular, however its popularity has been consistent. You guys are arguing people are making a fuss over them due to Trump which is not the case. They were as popular if not more popular back in 1999 when there was no evil orange man. They have been invited to the white house House the past as well. As for two weeks from now you are right no one will care, but that goes for any sport. No one really cares Toronto won the NBA champ anymore. No one cares who won the PGA champ anymore or the Stanley cup, it's just the way things go now.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Here's some questions Trump haters can't answer

What has Trump actually done to harm women?
What has Trump actually done to harm black people?
What has Trump actually done to harm gay people?
What has Trump actually done to make immigration problems worse?

You would think that Trump re-enacted slavery and took away women's right to vote the way the left talks about him.

Trump's sin is that he stopped the socialist agenda.
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I already tried this with Tibs last week. I was met with crickets......a lot of crickets. The truth is there is no answer. There is media spin on things that Trump didn't actually say. Everything is out of context in an attempt to sway the lemmings.
 
jitter77 said:
Not saying it is super popular, however its popularity has been consistent. You guys are arguing people are making a fuss over them due to Trump which is not the case. They were as popular if not more popular back in 1999 when there was no evil orange man. They have been invited to the white house House the past as well
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It is very much the case. They get asked about it in every damn interview. Every single one. Most of the articles on sports sites mention it at the very least. Several sites have written entire articles about this whole beef. This time around, they may very well be just as popular for that as they are for winning a soccer tournament. They may also be the most hated American team ever assembled.
 
Obviously I'm not the one to ask about womens's soccer in the USA, had to ask the wife if there are professional teams here that they pooled to field the team for the world cup.

She wasn't able to tell me who those teams are though. I suspect this is true across most of America.

Economics 101....supply and demand.
 
The USWNT play in the professional league, but they are paid by US Soccer. I think there are 22 in total, spread across the 9 teams that they have. It won't be long until they start going to Europe to play professionally. More teams, competition is better and better money(soon).
 
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