We are being badly misled about the Ukraine-Russia war

[Confluence]

We could take over Cuba in a day without firing a shot, problem is that they would be a dependency class at least for a while. Also the Cubans in South Florida are going to want their property back after another family has been living in their former house for 65 years and there’s not a fair way to work that out.
We could bring back the good cigars though. I’ve smoked a real Cuban cigar twice, smooth as hell but the nicotine is so high that I was stoned as **** after smoking half of it.

The Cuban people in the countryside are amazingly happy, peaceful, healthy and hardworking.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Yeah the CIA has already published a white paper on how they intend to neutralize Russian resurgence by breaking it up into several smaller nations. So they are not so paranoid. As the old saying goes, Even paranoids have enemies.

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t really out to get you.” — Dr. Johnny Fever

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Hypocycloids]

Well it looks like Trump finally got a clue, enlightened ..whatever.
Changing his tune. Upset at Putin.

Sending more sophisticated defensive weapons to Ukraine.
Putin has 50 days to come to terms with peace or sanctions begin.

Putin has no more interest in peace than Hamas does with Israel.

Russia/Putin is who we conservatives for decades always thought they were,.... conniving, deceitful and not to be trusted.

It’s a shame we’ve flipped flopped to became Putins cheerleaders.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-putin-ukraine-not-happy-weapons-pause-51b774fc94f9835c7aae4707da444291

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-patriot-missiles-ukraine-russia-immigration-tariffs-live-updates-rcna218469

 

[xjx]

It will take a while ( 6 months, maybe a year) before the pain of sanction may bother Vlad. In the meantime he will fight on. He kills innocent people. Very evil.

 

[JMM]

I thought sanctions have been in place since the Potato Regime.

 

[DBS1970]

It will take a while ( 6 months, maybe a year) before the pain of sanction may bother Vlad. In the meantime he will fight on. He kills innocent people. Very evil.

You understand the snctions mean nothing to Russia because they are still selling all the natural resources and oil they produce to Europe right?

 

[Steeltime]

Update on the impending Ukrainian victory over a vastly larger and better-supplied Russian army. Russia is about to capture a pretty major city, Pokrovsk. The city is part of the Northern Donetsk campaign and is an important supply junction and railroad hub for supplying the Ukrainian army.

Russian forces reached the city in 2024 and are now fighting inside the city itself. A video from January of 2025 shows an incredible amount of armored vehicles destroyed on a road to Pokrovsk, and Ukrainian generals have abandoned the city ahead of the Russian advance.

Ukraine simply does not have the manpower to put up a legitimate fight.

 

[DBS1970]

Update on the impending Ukrainian victory over a vastly larger and better-supplied Russian army. Russia is about to capture a pretty major city, Pokrovsk. The city is part of the Northern Donetsk campaign and is an important supply junction and railroad hub for supplying the Ukrainian army.

Russian forces reached the city in 2024 and are now fighting inside the city itself. A video from January of 2025 shows an incredible amount of armored vehicles destroyed on a road to Pokrovsk, and Ukrainian generals have abandoned the city ahead of the Russian advance.

Ukraine simply does not have the manpower to put up a legitimate fight.

And remember the Russians would not be there if we had not pushed NATO farther and farther eastward. Ukraine joining NATO would be just as much a provocation to war to the Russians as the Russians putting missiles in Cuba was 60 years ago was to us.

 

[Tibs]

And remember the Russians would not be there if we had not pushed NATO farther and farther eastward. Ukraine joining NATO would be just as much a provocation to war to the Russians as the Russians putting missiles in Cuba was 60 years ago was to us.

In one of the greatest self-owns in recent history, Vladimir Putin's belligerent invasion of Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland's NATO membership, which resulted in NATO doubling the alliance's border with Russia.

 

[Confluence]

In one of the greatest self-owns in recent history, Vladimir Putin's belligerent invasion of Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland's NATO membership, which resulted in NATO doubling the alliance's border with Russia.

Did the US participate in any coup changing political leadership in either Sweden or Finland?

Did either of the Finish or Swedish governments take actions, including violence, against the Russian speaking minorities within their borders?

 

[Superman]

In one of the greatest self-owns in recent history, Vladimir Putin's belligerent invasion of Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland's NATO membership, which resulted in NATO doubling the alliance's border with Russia.

if you say so. I mean, Sweden doesnt even share a border with Russia, but whatever. thanks for this reminder from two years ago. While you're back in 2023, can you remind us how Joe's doing?

 

[Steeltime]

Tibilo knows all Russian secrets, Confluence. Remember that he and perhaps four intelligence ********, ehh, assets - Brennan, Clapper, Obama and Clinton - knew of Russia's control of Donald Trump! You just can't argue with that level of knowledge. You really can't.

And in response to your point, I mean it's not like the United States actually ran a coup of the elected government of Ukraine in 2014 to install a series of corrupt puppets, noooooo, not at all! And it's not as if the current leader of Ukraine has literally zero claim to legitimate power and is in office solely due to canceling the election and arresting his political opponents, noooooo.

Zelensky is a much shorter, bearded version of everything the left claims Donald Trump is.

 

[Superman]

Tibs probably should have just said that now Trump sees Ukraine as a way to launder cash back to his children and called it a win. Instead, he picked up another L for his coLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLection.

 

[DBS1970]

In one of the greatest self-owns in recent history, Vladimir Putin's belligerent invasion of Ukraine prompted Sweden and Finland's NATO membership, which resulted in NATO doubling the alliance's border with Russia.

Whats the terrain like in Sweden and Finland?

Is it open plains with a direct route from western Europe into the heart of Russia? Has every invasion from the west into Russia come through Sweden and Finland in the last 2000 years?

No.

Putin gives a mad fizuck about Sweden and Finland joining NATO because they are a nonfactor in defending Russia but Ukraine is. Putin was never going to invade the rest of Europe and would not have invaded if we had kept NATO no farther than Germany.

 

[Steeltime]

Whats the terrain like in Sweden and Finland?

Is it open plains with a direct route from western Europe into the heart of Russia? Has every invasion from the west into Russia come through Sweden and Finland in the last 2000 years?

No.

Putin gives a mad fizuck about Sweden and Finland joining NATO because they are a nonfactor in defending Russia but Ukraine is. Putin was never going to invade the rest of Europe and would not have invaded if we had kept NATO no farther than Germany.

You Pootin-loving Russian asset, Putin is as bad as Hitler, who is as bad as Trump, so Pootin is as bad as Trump! Yes, THAT bad! And it's not like the imbeciles, uhh, geniuses in the previous administration were pushing for Ukrainia to be admitted to NATO! I mean other than the dimwit imbecile brat VP visiting Ukrainia in February of 2024 and specifically saying she could see a path for Ukrainia in NATO but so what? Do we really believe that Pootin-Hitler-Trump would believe anything said by a numbskull dumb flunky nobody who blew her way to success??

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