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Goodbye TJ WATT...............................................



Salute the nation
 
Just read that article on Howard demanding the trade. Not sure what it would take. If we could get him for anything but a 1st rounder, I'd have to think they would do it. But, I am guessing they will want at least a first. Then again, they pay him as a No. 2 CB, so they obviously don't value him that much so maybe we could get him for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Hayden is gone very possibly after this year so if we don't lose too much draft capital, the cap hit won't be that devastating as he would become our No. 1 DB in place of Hayden.
 
TDX27 said:
Just read that article on Howard demanding the trade. Not sure what it would take. If we could get him for anything but a 1st rounder, I'd have to think they would do it. But, I am guessing they will want at least a first. Then again, they pay him as a No. 2 CB, so they obviously don't value him that much so maybe we could get him for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Hayden is gone very possibly after this year so if we don't lose too much draft capital, the cap hit won't be that devastating as he would become our No. 1 DB in place of Hayden.
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They want Cam on the outside. I would think they would target a nickel/slot corner before they would go after Howard. Unless they feel a certain aging corner slipped more in training camp.
 
slashsteel said:
Bite your tongue!
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My point was we only have so much money, I'm not sure what it would take for HOWARD to get here but I'd never compromise risking TJ in that adventure.

Saracasticly I said goodbye.

Now if the front office FO could find a creative way then I'd be all for it and congratulate both Colbert & Tomlin on the acheivement !

Salute the nation
 
slashsteel said:
They want Cam on the outside. I would think they would target a nickel/slot corner before they would go after Howard. Unless they feel a certain aging corner slipped more in training camp.
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Yes and no. They are putting Cam outside as he is currently their best option there but he can play nickel/slot as he did before. Plus, as I said, Hayden is probably gone after this year. Cam may work out to be a reliable outside guy but I don't think he is a pro bowler like Howard would be. Team Howard up with Hayden outside this year with Cam inside and next year have Cam and Howard outside with one of the younger guys inside. If the price is right and they think they can sign him to a long-term deal in a year, I'd seriously be looking at it. Unless they think Pierre or Layne are going to both be starters, then I'd stick with what we have. But, Howard would anchor the secondary with Minkah for the next 5+ years if they can work out a new contract with him next year.
 
I would WILLINGLY give up a 1st round pick for a PROVEN player. The Draft picks are always a crap shoot, trading a 1st is in my opinion is a calculated move with much more information.
 
This is why you don't see the FO give many FA's big salaries that shadow current player's salaries.
Even if the incoming guy is better, it can present problems in the locker room.

Howard is mad that Jones got more money than him when he is statistically better.
 
LeXX75 said:
He is 2 years into a 5 year deal ..he signed.. now wants mo $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...Not happening here
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Completely agree, was gonna post something similar. The guy juat signed a contract and now wants to break it
 
LeXX75 said:
He is 2 years into a 5 year deal ..he signed.. now wants mo $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...Not happening here
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I hear about the mo money but he said he would play the contract but wanted more guaranteed money from it. The Steelers restructure deals all the time to do that. They do it every year for cap reasons and to make players (AB comes to mind) happy. Then after the 4th year of his current deal, do an extension. It could work but it all depends on how much draft capital. If they took a 3rd, we'd be fools not to jump. A 2nd and I'd still look seriously. A 1st and that might be too steep.
 
I'd check in on Gilmore around the trade Deadline. If we're contending, he would be a great pickup and probably wouldn't cost a ton.
 
Sixth highest paid cornerback in the league and he wants a new deal with four years left (he just signed the extension in 2019). That isn't how the Steelers operate with their contacts.
 
MT~Forged said:
I would WILLINGLY give up a 1st round pick for a PROVEN player. The Draft picks are always a crap shoot, trading a 1st is in my opinion is a calculated move with much more information.
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I really thought about this last night and I've changed my perspective...

I, too, would definitely give up next year's first rounder for Xavien Howard. He can come in and be DB1 RIGHT NOW!!! It would take a whole lot of pressure of Joe Haden and, Joe can ride off into the sunset w/ Ben after the season.

Make it happen Mr. Colbert - MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
 
bermudasteel said:
I really thought about this last night and I've changed my perspective...

I, too, would definitely give up next year's first rounder for Xavien Howard. He can come in and be DB1 RIGHT NOW!!! It would take a whole lot of pressure of Joe Haden and, Joe can ride off into the sunset w/ Ben after the season.

Make it happen Mr. Colbert - MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
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Are you prepared to make him the highest paid CB in the league (and break precedent with contract negotiations) and TJ Watt the highest paid defender in the same offseason?
 
I've heard that tune many times before. And I've seen this team have a great oline, running backs, Ben and awesome receivers and still **** it up. I've also seen them have a first rounder in virtually every position on defense and still **** it up. Unless he plays corner and can be the head coach and bring in a great coaching staff I'm just not buying.
 
Watt way too important. I think the coaches think that Cam can handle the outside and they like Pierre as the dime and a few battling for the slot. Never know Pierre could flip with Cam as he is Tomlin's boy. They have 12 mil I thin. l as Colbert said was safety net in case of injuries. They will wait til after week 1 for the cuts probably to save money also. Not sure you see much more than what is at camp now.
 
SteelerinMD said:
Watt way too important. I think the coaches think that Cam can handle the outside and they like Pierre as the dime and a few battling for the slot. Never know Pierre could flip with Cam as he is Tomlin's boy. They have 12 mil I thin. l as Colbert said was safety net in case of injuries. They will wait til after week 1 for the cuts probably to save money also. Not sure you see much more than what is at camp now.
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I like Pierre's story but not sold on him being a starting outside corner. I think it comes down to the nickel corner if they find a good fit in the building. If not then you could see a last minute addition. I am on board with regardless they should..
 
If Howars really only wants his current contract restructured with more money upfront then I would be fine with bringing him in. Next year Haden gets off the books and you have your #1 already in house.
It would definitely be a very scary defense with his addition
 
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