That was different, those late 90's teams were dealing with tons of injuries and turnover to their core guys from the early 90's. Those teams didn't have a franchise QB, and one of the top Olines in the NFL.
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That was different, those late 90's teams were dealing with tons of injuries and turnover to their core guys from the early 90's. Those teams didn't have a franchise QB, and one of the top Olines in the NFL.
I didnt call for Cowhers head because he never acted like an arrogant *** deflecting blame every where else.
Yep, I've had it with Tomlin thinking himself as some eloquent orator, expecting it to cover his obvious flaws as a head coach.
As long as the money keeps rolling in, nothing will change.
As long as the money keeps rolling in, nothing will change.
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I just hate for reality to hit me in the face but we all saw it last night. The coaches of NE coach to the very end, they are making notes on the pictures they are talking to players of what they will do next, no high fifing on the sidelines all business for ONE goal to win.. Even at the end no way were they going to allow Pittsburgh to score a td
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4th and goal from the ONE YARD LINE down 20-0. Dumblin says **** it and kicks a field goal. Horrible. Pathetic. That's the epitome of a Loser coach. In contrast, here is what Pederson did yesterday:
Game: Washington at Philadelphia, Sunday.
Situation: Washington up 20-7, third quarter, 13:03 left, Eagles ball fourth-and-one at the Eagles 34-yard line.
The decision: If Eagles coach Doug Pederson goes for it and fails, he leaves Washington (and hot quarterback Case Keenum) a short field to make it a three-score game. If he punts, he could leave Washington 80 yards from a touchdown, but short-circuiting this possession would leave him with one less chance to score in what could end up being a shootout.
The thought process: In training camp, Pederson told me he coached too conservatively last year, unlike his bold 2017 season that ended in the Eagles’ first Super Bowl victory. “I want to coach aggressive,” Pederson told me on my camp visit. “That’s what I gotta get back to. Last year was not my mentality. I’ve learned from that.” And on Sunday, Pederson said post-game he thought it was “a no-brainer. It was just inside a yard [to go]. I knew I was gonna go for it. We had success on the QB sneaks early in the game. I was coming right back to it.”
The analytics: Eric Eager of PFF reports: “There have been fewer than 130 plays when a team went for it on fourth down before the fourth quarter and inside of their own 35 since 2006. The play carried significant weight for the Eagles, roughly a 33 percent proposition to win the game at the time. Punting in that situation would have made the Eagles probability of winning the game the same, while converting the first down would increase their win probability to 40 percent. Converting on all run plays for a team with the strengths of the Eagles against a team with the strength of Washington is roughly a 73-percent proposition, and given the historical rates of quarterback sneaks, likely higher in this instance. Thus, going for it did have some risk, but the benefits outweighed the cost.”
The result: Carson Wentz converted the first down on a two-yard QB sneak. Eight plays later, the Eagles scored to make it 20-14, and on their next series, they scored another touchdown to go ahead for good. No doubt Pederson will be similarly emboldened the rest of the season, the way he was in 2017.
Game: Washington at Philadelphia, Sunday.
Situation: Washington up 20-7, third quarter, 13:03 left, Eagles ball fourth-and-one at the Eagles 34-yard line.
The decision: If Eagles coach Doug Pederson goes for it and fails, he leaves Washington (and hot quarterback Case Keenum) a short field to make it a three-score game. If he punts, he could leave Washington 80 yards from a touchdown, but short-circuiting this possession would leave him with one less chance to score in what could end up being a shootout.
The thought process: In training camp, Pederson told me he coached too conservatively last year, unlike his bold 2017 season that ended in the Eagles’ first Super Bowl victory. “I want to coach aggressive,” Pederson told me on my camp visit. “That’s what I gotta get back to. Last year was not my mentality. I’ve learned from that.” And on Sunday, Pederson said post-game he thought it was “a no-brainer. It was just inside a yard [to go]. I knew I was gonna go for it. We had success on the QB sneaks early in the game. I was coming right back to it.”
The analytics: Eric Eager of PFF reports: “There have been fewer than 130 plays when a team went for it on fourth down before the fourth quarter and inside of their own 35 since 2006. The play carried significant weight for the Eagles, roughly a 33 percent proposition to win the game at the time. Punting in that situation would have made the Eagles probability of winning the game the same, while converting the first down would increase their win probability to 40 percent. Converting on all run plays for a team with the strengths of the Eagles against a team with the strength of Washington is roughly a 73-percent proposition, and given the historical rates of quarterback sneaks, likely higher in this instance. Thus, going for it did have some risk, but the benefits outweighed the cost.”
The result: Carson Wentz converted the first down on a two-yard QB sneak. Eight plays later, the Eagles scored to make it 20-14, and on their next series, they scored another touchdown to go ahead for good. No doubt Pederson will be similarly emboldened the rest of the season, the way he was in 2017.
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The Eagles game was more than 1 call. I watched that game and the Redskins dominated the first half. They came out with a bunch of stuff the Eagles weren’t expecting on both offense and defense.
But the Eagles have real coaches. So they adjusted and blew the doors off the skins in the second half.
The steelers just figured they’d try what worked last time and as usual when the steelers plan A doesn’t work, they don’t have a Plan B.
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Cowher was a different era. He took over a team that had done nothing in years. Then he had to deal with FA taking all his good players because the Steelers couldn't afford to pay them. Then he had to deal with (We aren't the salvation army) Donahoe. Tomlin has had everything handed to him. Franchise QB, great staff, no FAs leaving left and right. I guarantee you if Cowher were here we'd have won more than 1 SB with Ben in a decade.
Tomlin will stay as long as he wants because Rooney won't make a move. He loves the idea of 3 HC in 50 years.
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Cowher constantly had his assistants hired away. Has any Tomlin assistant ever done ****? Arians might be the only one but he had a unique situation where he became OC for the colts and then took over as HC when Pagano went through cancer treatment, so Bruce rode Andrew Luck to a head coaching gig.
but Arians was only hired off the street. Nobody tried to lure him away from Pitt.
Cowher hired the best coaches he could find. Tomlin seems to look for Yes men.
but Arians was only hired off the street. Nobody tried to lure him away from Pitt.
Cowher hired the best coaches he could find. Tomlin seems to look for Yes men.
Because Tomlin is a stubborn *** that doesn't want to be questioned by his staff, just wants them to do what he wants.
He said we weren't ready for prime time last night in his presser after the game. A reporter asked why not his response, " It doesn't matter"
Yes it ******* does, that's part of your job
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As usual, the difference between the two HCs on the sidelines was striking. Every time the camera was on Belichick he was working; scribbling on his play sheet, talking to his coaches, yelling at the refs.....and every time it was on Tomlin he was just standing there looking confused and disappointed. What a total failure of a coaching staff; game preparation was poor and game plan execution was worse. Its on YOU Mikey!
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DK pointed out the arrogance after week 17 last year when Tomlin referred to the season ending presser on Wednesday -- clearly presuming he would escape Black Monday firings after the historic collapse with 8 Pro Bowlers.
He knows he's safe, and this has bred an arrogant, Dunning-Kruger, mentality in dealing with the reality of his ineptitude now pouring in through the dike.
He's too proud to admit he's clueless, and this precludes him from actually learning from his many foibles through the years.
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Last night, the pivotal role of 'slightly late LB in coverage was played by Mark Barron.
Let's be clear about something. When people were calling for Cowher's head, it was because he kept falling short in AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. Tomlin barely sniffs playoff games, let alone late playoff games.
Also, Cowher was going to those AFC Championships with Kordell Stewart and eventually with Ben Roethlisberger as a rookie. Just accept it. Tomless sucks ***.
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what really annoys me is that i watch all these other head coaches on sidelines with their clipboards and making notes. This F'n clown and a fraud of a coach always has his arms folded or hands in his pocket
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As they say, "all hat and no cattle."
I thought people calling for Cowhers head were idiots. They had no idea how good we had it with him. Obviously. As far as I'm concerned shades will never be half the coach that Cowher was.
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I know they won’t fire Tomlin. Not yet, or even in season.
But to entertain the notion, give me a good Xs and Os guy. Particularly on defense, stop with the dumb zones that don’t fool anybody, and have a LB chasing a wide receiver down the field.
But to entertain the notion, give me a good Xs and Os guy. Particularly on defense, stop with the dumb zones that don’t fool anybody, and have a LB chasing a wide receiver down the field.
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Please have Tomlin fired.
That is all.
Thanks!
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Please have Tomlin fired.
That is all.
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That non-snap last night when the lineman dropped into pass protection was reminiscent of the 3 offsides on the Chargers' winning FG last year.
This team is so unbuttoned it's laughable. Professionals making Junior High mistakes.
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After the season I move on from Tomlin and make Lincoln Riley an offer he can't refuse. The guy can flat out coach offense and runs a big time program.
For years I've tried to give the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt under Tomlin, but I'm fed up. I am ready to straight up lose, clean house in the coaching staff, and this may lead to Ben retiring but so be it. It's time to move on, I want a coach that actually knows how to coach, who understands strategy, X's and O's, matchups, etc. I'm tired of this supposed motivational coach mentality. That game has moved on from that and players these days are too emotional and narcissistic as it is, they need discipline and gameplans. Burn it down start a new