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Tomlin sucks thread 11/6/16

For anyone who has ever been in a company, on a team, or has observed life in general...............

Eventually words mean nothing.

And from my observations, that is all Cool Shades has to offer.

The team needs to KNOW that they will be held accountable. This is why some of the best coaches say very little. They know words are cheap. Instead of being loquacious, they know that taking actions is how to get your point across. Think Chuck Noll. He was never a Chatty Cathy. But you knew, if you didn't have your **** tight, he would go to work on finding someone who will. And the people know it. Even the good/great coaches who are garrulous, like Tuna and Jimmy Johnson, STILL back up their talk with taking action and cutting players who aren't getting it done, even high draft picks or high profile free agents.

When you form of making players accountable is taking away ping pong and air hockey privileges, you might not be sending the message that being unfocused, error ridden or lacking effort is intolerable. When all you got is more talk with not much action, your effectiveness will be ****. I will reference again, the clips on Parcells entering his 2nd season knowing he was on the hot seat. He said, "I gotta do it my way, and I no players will want to be friends with me, but I got to do it." Cool Shades hasn't ever got this point; he still wishes to be friends with the players instead of kicking fanny when needed. It is obvious. Words don't command respect. This team showed up, playing its arch rival, being more talented and more healthy, and got their faces caved in. And the Ravens are not even a good team, they are average at best.

I remember running a sales staff, and I was all about passionately imploring the guys to do what was needed for maximum sales. It worked well for a while, but slowly the "all words" coaching stopped getting my message across. People slowly started to do some slacking things. Then on one trip, two guys stayed a few extra days in DC, wracking up some inappropriate expenses, such as lots of booze and even dozens of roses (to impress some ladies, I would say is safe to say). One guy's performance was not so great, the other guy was a leading salesperson. I fired the low performer after that; his sales would have got him fired eventually, but him pushing the limits made for an earlier demise. That got the rest of the crew listening a little harder and focus much better. I needed far less words to get their attention.

Now, if the story about the Steelers out late partying in Miami before that game is true, and no one got punished, other than taking ping pong privileges away, I'd say Tomlin sucks as a leader. You can get away with a "words only" coaching effort for a while, but eventually, you will lose the team, as it appears has now happened.
 
They were 4-1 because they playing well. The same coaches were coming up with those game plans. They weren't perfect but the players were playing well. Especially on offense that helped cover up the defense giving up lot of yards. Now people want the coaches to come up with some special game plans that Will fix things when what will fix things is guys playing better. It's simple play better. Of course no one will acknowledge injuries are hurting the team but of course for this guy he doesn't get that excuse. **** injuries have been blamed on him and his staff too. Yet if you mention 2006 the first thing people mention is Ben's header funny how that works

If the gameplan isn't working, then in-game adjustments need to be made to put players in the best position to perform better. That's one of the ways a guy with a seven million dollar salary is supposed to earn his paycheck. And it sure looked like the idea was to come out and try to force running the ball against the #4 run defense in the league, on their home turf -- so it was a pretty ****** gameplan to begin with. I guess that was the players' fault, too.

No one will acknowledge the Steelers' injuries? I think the gentlemen in Vegas would beg to differ...they made the Steelers a touchdown underdog at home when Ben was out. But again, as it seems you've missed the point, they SHOULD have won the other seven games on their schedule, yet EASILY lost three of those, and somehow in your world this has absolutely not a thing to do with coaching.

Bizarre.
 
If the gameplan isn't working, then in-game adjustments need to be made to put players in the best position to perform better. That's one of the ways a guy with a seven million dollar salary is supposed to earn his paycheck. And it sure looked like the idea was to come out and try to force running the ball against the #4 run defense in the league, on their home turf -- so it was a pretty ****** gameplan to begin with. I guess that was the players' fault, too.

No one will acknowledge the Steelers' injuries? I think the gentlemen in Vegas would beg to differ...they made the Steelers a touchdown underdog at home when Ben was out. But again, as it seems you've missed the point, they SHOULD have won the other seven games on their schedule, yet EASILY lost three of those, and somehow in your world this has absolutely not a thing to do with coaching.

Bizarre.

he is not the brightest book on the shelf when it comes to football

obviously

the formula is easier than some fans want to admit


if a one game issue surfaces, I can be down with focusing on the players, or perhaps the game plan of one coordinator or both


if something happens over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over


that is on the man responsible for tweaking it, so that it doesn't happen over and over and over and over and over again
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So I have this app called "Timehop" that shows your social media posts on the current date in years past.

Literally four years ago - FOUR YEARS - I was on Facebook bitching about Tomlin sucking against bad teams, and saying "it's been going on for years". Jesus Mary and Joseph


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So I have this app called "Timehop" that shows your social media posts on the current date in years past.

Literally four years ago - FOUR YEARS - I was on Facebook bitching about Tomlin sucking against bad teams, and saying "it's been going on for years". Jesus Mary and Joseph


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Now I will not say the word for what that is called, nor will I highlight letters within this sentence to indicate what that is called. What I will do is direct you to my signature and invite you to play a little hangman.

A little game that is fun to play every once and awhile.

heeheehawhaw

hi
 
Steelers Film Room: Third-Down Failures Vs Ravens

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BY MATTHEW MARCZI NOVEMBER 12, 2016 AT 11:00 AM



This will not exactly be met as breaking news, but a big reason for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ struggles on offense on Sunday against the Ravens was the fact that they did a terrible job of finding success on third down, at least until it was too late to mount a convincing comeback. I believe they went something like 0-10 on their first 10 third-down opportunities.

It is true that much of that was related to the fact that they also fairly consistently put themselves in poor down-and-distance circumstances, so that few of their third-down opportunities came under manageable circumstances, but for a team that was right up there with the best in the league in this regard not too long ago, they have really fallen off a cliff. And here is what the view looked like on the way down.

The first real failure I want to look at came late in the first quarter. The Steelers were facing a third and four, but they still chose to the run the ball in spite of the fact that they have already been struggling to find success on the ground. facing a six-man box with six blockers, multiple one-on-one losses led to a run for no gain.



At the top of the second quarter, with the Steelers facing a third and five, Ben Roethlisberger was simply off-target on a short pass in the direction of Sammie Coates that was closer to his feet than his hands. He was not under pressure, nor was the anybody in the throwing lane, nor was he trying to pull the ball back down.






Facing a third and seven at the two-minute warning, Roethlisberger tried to hit his running back on a screen pass, but the Ravens showed a six-man blitz with five blockers. Baltimore dropped one blocker but it was too late to adjust for the left tackle to chip the edge rusher. Roethlisberger was under pressure and got off a poor throw.



Later, on another third and five, Roethlisberger, as he often does, looked deep down the field. And the team has had success doing this, so the choice itself cannot be blamed. But Roethlisberger had Sammie Coates in one-on-one coverage open down the left sideline, only to overthrow the ball. He looked like he would have also beaten the safety and scored on the play.



In the fourth quarter, after the Steelers’ first touchdown, Pittsburgh got down to Baltimore’s 13 to set up a third and six. The Ravens sent just a three-man rush, but the left edge rusher beat the right tackle one on one and Roethlisberger was unable to scramble out of his grasp.



These are just five of 12 ways the Steelers managed to fail to convert on third downs during the day. Earlier this season, they would have managed to convert many of them. When they don’t, it should probably go without saying, but the offense struggles significantly.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2016/11/steelers-film-room-third-failures-vs-ravens/

Gifs and play breakdowns inside.
 
I am on record in this very thread and several others in the past stating that in my opinion the importance of a head coach is over exaggerated at times in terms of wins and losses. I still believe that, however, one of the things the head coach has to do is keep control of the locker room and manage the people in it. I just heard on NFLN that Ben Roethlisberger WENT to Coach Tomlin this week to complain that he was sick of certain guys' lackadaisical attitude and lack of effort in practice. They had a long talk and practices have been better this week.

If a player needs to go to the coach and complain that players are not taking **** seriously....that is a problem. The coach needs to be the one to recognize it and take care of that asap. The fact that a player had to ask Tomlin to do it is not good. And the fact that the coach couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it on his own until a player complained, is a problem. That's the coaches job.
 
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Lets "Trump" these coaches. Get rid of them all. Clean house, start with Tomlin, then Haley from KC and finish off with our Defence Dip ****!!!
 
So, are we starting a new Tomlin sucks thread or just continuing this one?
 
Is the decision to go for 2 on the Head Coach or is that something else that the players decide on their own?
 
So, are we starting a new Tomlin sucks thread or just continuing this one?

they were started last night, they perhaps need to be combined

not because he doesn't deserve fired, he does

it makes it obvious fans are in full blown meltdown mode

something for them to gloat about
 
Was anyone really happy with him? I mean be came from Minnesota where they did nothing while he was there. Same as Haley comimg from KC. Kansas City stunk until they got rid of him. What tye hell os going in here?
 
MT is the only coach you see on sidelines with either arms folded or hands in pocket. He is never talking on headset. Never. Guy is not qualified to be a head coach. Been saying this for 9 years now. enough already with the Rooney liberal bullshit. If he was anyone else he would have been out.

Go ahead bash away
 
MT is the only coach you see on sidelines with either arms folded or hands in pocket. He is never talking on headset. Never. Guy is not qualified to be a head coach. Been saying this for 9 years now. enough already with the Rooney liberal bullshit. If he was anyone else he would have been out.

Go ahead bash away

Shut the **** up about the liberal bullshit. I'm here to talk and ***** about football and get the **** away from the endless goddamn politics.
 
MT is the only coach you see on sidelines with either arms folded or hands in pocket. He is never talking on headset. Never. Guy is not qualified to be a head coach. Been saying this for 9 years now. enough already with the Rooney liberal bullshit. If he was anyone else he would have been out.

Go ahead bash away

97 wins as a head coach. :der:
 
97 wins as a head coach. :der:

yep. great x & o guy. tremendous game adjustments. awesome clock management. good talent evaluate. 97 in spite of him. The only thing i see MT offer are post game words nothing else.
 
97 wins as a head coach. :der:

Yea, he's 0-4 on 2 pt conversions and that cost us the last game, has lost his last four games in a row, and is 1-4 in his last 5 playoff appearances.

Shady has to go. in the game before, the 54 yard fg attempt down 11 made zero sense.

A good coach gives his team preparation to win, and makes the right strategic decisions. Our gambles away points, and has players calling out the practices suck.
 
97 wins as a head coach. :der:

Wins aside, what areas are we better as a team now than we were 5 years ago or even 10 years ago? What areas specifically has Tomlin improved this team? Over the last 5 years has the team he took over began to evolve, what has he done to rebuild or improve this team? I also don't believe for one second that Colbert has completely forgotten how to evaluate and draft players either, so explain Tomlin's input into our draft picks and the lack of development of those picks. I think Ben and our offense cover up a lot of deficiencies on this team, one of them being the head coach.
 
yep. great x & o guy. tremendous game adjustments. awesome clock management. good talent evaluate. 97 in spite of him. The only thing i see MT offer are post game words nothing else.
Sorry, I don't think Tomlin is amazing or the best. He has tons of faults but he's a good coach. He spends time with every position group routinely. He knows what he's doing. You don't win 97 games and a Super Bowl and not know what you're doing.

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Wins aside, what areas are we better as a team now than we were 5 years ago or even 10 years ago? What areas specifically has Tomlin improved this team? Over the last 5 years has the team he took over began to evolve, what has he done to rebuild or improve this team? I also don't believe for one second that Colbert has completely forgotten how to evaluate and draft players either, so explain Tomlin's input into our draft picks and the lack of development of those picks. I think Ben and our offense cover up a lot of deficiencies on this team, one of them being the head coach.
Did Tom Donahoe forget how to evaluate players? He wasn't exactly stellar before he was let go. The offense is way better with much better talent all around.

It's apparent that they can't evaluate defensive talent very well. Though they have hit on Tuitt, Heyward, and Shazier. Artie looks like he could turn into a good player. They need to go out and sign a pass rusher in the offseason.

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