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RollRed said:
I was making a joke .... Relax
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I'm sure many of us have the "Is this some kind of a joke?" reaction after reading a post from one of you leftists.

Going forward clarify whether its a joke or not.
 
Spike said:
Don't forget the Jews

Guns ‘n’ Moses: Why more Jews are packing heat

http://nypost.com/2015/10/13/guns-n-moses-why-more-jews-are-packing-heat/
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I'm not trying to excuse radical elements in Islam.

But when you take into context the 3rd world environments these people live in and combine it with the relatively "young" religion in Islam, this is what you get.

When you put the Dark Ages + Young Christianity together in Europe, you got loads of cruel and ugly **** done in the name of "God".

We are looking through a lens of 21st century civilization on a world where day-to-day life is much closer to the middle ages than any of us could imagine. In some ways that promise of simplicity is what lures so many young, frustrated muslims away from 21st century life and back to an age where you had land, a few goats, a wife, children and that's it. It's false promises to be sure, but it works.

There's a reason there are 20 survival reality shows on TV right now at almost any given time. Americans feel the same urge to simplify the complexities of modern life and to "get back to basics and nature".

We can't ban Islam. We can't wipe out the religion. We have to be patient with it's evolution away from violence and into the civilized world. I'm not saying roll over and accept acts of terror. I'm fine with the wars to date (although I disagree with their implementation). I think our government should be more outspoken against Sharia as incompatible with Western laws and civilization. I think we need to continue to live, by example, as accepting of minorities, religions, sexual preferences, et. al.

But we can not waiver in our laws. The law is what we need to embrace more than ever in our fight against radical fundamentalism. We can not allow any religion to supersede the laws of the land and our principle as a country should defer to that even in the face of political correctness. If our laws as a country can't accept aspects of Islam, then we shouldn't be embarrassed to say so. And we should demand every citizen and visitor in our country to follow the laws of the land no matter what.

It is the logic and morality of our legal system that will win the war on terror and radical religion in the end. Not guns and wars.
 
deljzc said:
But we can not waiver in our laws. The law is what we need to embrace more than ever in our fight against radical fundamentalism. We can not allow any religion to supersede the laws of the land and our principle as a country should defer to that even in the face of political correctness. If our laws as a country can't accept aspects of Islam, then we shouldn't be embarrassed to say so. And we should demand every citizen and visitor in our country to follow the laws of the land no matter what.
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Vlad Putin believes that. Europe and Bomma, not so much.

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this bears repeating...

  • The Koran states that martyrs are awarded 72 virgins when they arrive in Heaven.
    Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "
    Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39
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  • Homosexuality is forbidden per Islam.
    And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?(80)Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."(81) Al-Araf 80-81
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  • The Koran states that only men can get into Heaven.
    Hadith 4:464

    Narrated 'Imran bin Husain:
    The Prophet said, "I looked at Paradise and found poor people forming the majority of its inhabitants; and I looked at Hell and saw that the majority of its inhabitants were women."
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Therefore, when a "good Muslim" dies and makes it to "Heaven", he is awarded, quite gloriously with 72 virgin males. Since, as the Koran states, only men get into Heaven. Thus, there can be no females - let alone female virgins - in Heaven.

Yes, it is that ****** up.
 
deljzc said:
I'm not trying to excuse radical elements in Islam.

But when you take into context the 3rd world environments these people live in and combine it with the relatively "young" religion in Islam, this is what you get.

When you put the Dark Ages + Young Christianity together in Europe, you got loads of cruel and ugly **** done in the name of "God".

We are looking through a lens of 21st century civilization on a world where day-to-day life is much closer to the middle ages than any of us could imagine. In some ways that promise of simplicity is what lures so many young, frustrated muslims away from 21st century life and back to an age where you had land, a few goats, a wife, children and that's it. It's false promises to be sure, but it works.

There's a reason there are 20 survival reality shows on TV right now at almost any given time. Americans feel the same urge to simplify the complexities of modern life and to "get back to basics and nature".

We can't ban Islam. We can't wipe out the religion. We have to be patient with it's evolution away from violence and into the civilized world. I'm not saying roll over and accept acts of terror. I'm fine with the wars to date (although I disagree with their implementation). I think our government should be more outspoken against Sharia as incompatible with Western laws and civilization. I think we need to continue to live, by example, as accepting of minorities, religions, sexual preferences, et. al.

But we can not waiver in our laws. The law is what we need to embrace more than ever in our fight against radical fundamentalism. We can not allow any religion to supersede the laws of the land and our principle as a country should defer to that even in the face of political correctness. If our laws as a country can't accept aspects of Islam, then we shouldn't be embarrassed to say so. And we should demand every citizen and visitor in our country to follow the laws of the land no matter what.

It is the logic and morality of our legal system that will win the war on terror and radical religion in the end. Not guns and wars.
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You do understand that Christianity started in Europe around 65 A.D.? Hell is was in Europe for over 500 years before the dark ages. When Rome fell the papal power was there to pick up the pieces and they abused their power. It had nothing to do with a young religion. Also Islam has been around since around 600 A.D. That's over 1400 hundred years ago. The dark ages didn't last but 1200 years.

I really have no idea what you are trying to say here. Islam is not evolving. There have been head hunters in the south pacific for thousands of years. Their religion hasn't evolved. Christianity didn't evolve. It was peaceful until some nut jobs took it over hundreds of years after it was established.
 
An atheists view on Islam. Spot on.
At 2:40 he exposes a compelling enigma/contradiction from a verse in the Koran.





An to be fair his view on Christianity...if your interested in hearing the same old song and dance about how God is fake, corruption in the church, the silliness of the Holy Trinity etc.
Sorry to disappoint if you don't hear anything about murderous Christians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk4AJ1BgQX8
 
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What did Elfie/Polo do this time to get banned? Someone enlighten me?
 
No clue. I'm not a Steelers fan anymore (temporarily) so I don't go on that side of the board (although the Pouncey MRSA issue has me intrigued. Karma.)
 
Figured someone was bailing us out from all the *** kickings we were suffering at his/her hands.


edit.....at least 'm sure that's what he/she is telling him/her self.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Went all racial over in the Football Only forum.
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Remember when Elfie created a "black guy" persona and started talking all ghetto? Good times from the tolerant left.
 
EdReed4Prez said:
Remember when Elfie created a "black guy" persona and started talking all ghetto? Good times from the tolerant left.
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Wasn't he Steel Shinin at that time? I believe Elfie has the record for being banned under most names
 
hamster said:
Wasn't he Steel Shinin at that time? I believe Elfie has the record for being banned under most names
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I think so. I remember laughing because he was calling people racist, then shucking and jiving to sound black. "Cuz".
 
in the Tony Hills thread is where you'll find the expiration of Elfie.
 
Superman said:
in the Tony Hills thread is where you'll find the expiration of Elfie.
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Is he perma-banned this time? Like he should have been the first time he was banned and re-registered under a new identity?
 
time will tell
i didnt ban him/her/it
 
Guns are evil. Swords are evil. Ban swords, end sword violence today!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...dly-injured-in-sword-attack-at-sweden-school/

2 dead, at least 2 injured in sword attack at Sweden school

A male student and teacher were killed and at least two others were hurt after a masked man carrying a sword attacked a school in southwestern Sweden, officials said Thursday.

Police arrived to find the teacher already dead and two students, aged 11 and 15, and another male teacher wounded. The second victim was one of those students.

The attack took place at around 10 a.m. at the Kronan school’s café in Trollhattan, north of Goteborg, Sweden's second-largest city.

Swedish officials told the Associated Press that the attacker was in serious condition after being shot by police and was admitted to the NAL hospital from the school, along with the others injured.
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He killed more people with a sword than the Northern Arizona shooter did, recently.

GUNS ARE THE PROBLEM....errrr....well...UMMM....
 
we need common sense sword control laws
 
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