No problem with his actions. That is called fire and intensity. I don't need number 7. I need to see progress in terms of a legit playoff run.
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I lose track. Somebody remind me if Tomlin is responsible for the gameplan or play calling or the player's intensity. I ask because it seems he is not responsible for any of that when the steelers lose. So is it only when they win that he's responsible for it?
I just want to know the rules for discussing Tomlin.
I just want to know the rules for discussing Tomlin.
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His record in January is not so good the last 5 years. Average coach who too often acts the fool.
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Sarcasm is strong
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There's some serious hatred goin on ...... But that's YALLS problem. Better find a way to cope mutherfuckas.
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Always thought Tomlin was a great motivator and a good teacher, thought he sucked at game and situational management though. He proved me wrong on the latter Sunday, let's hope it continues. The fact he has us in a playoff spot after turning over our defense is worthy of praise. I think this is a fitting week turn to the darkside. Mike Tomlin you are my master.
I at times dislike Tomlin's time management and at times his inability to bench a player (Blake that should have been benched a long time ago) (Also playing down to ****** teams)
I do not have any problem with him showing emotion.
It is refreshing.........
So far his goods outweigh his bad.
But I do not want to see a one and done in the playoffs.
There is enough talent on this team that it shouldn't come to pass.
I do not have any problem with him showing emotion.
It is refreshing.........
So far his goods outweigh his bad.
But I do not want to see a one and done in the playoffs.
There is enough talent on this team that it shouldn't come to pass.
Oh, no...I've read MANY times Tomlin haters saying he doesn't have ENOUGH emotion, over the years.
So it's just hate. If he has emotion, it's wrong. If he has none, it's wrong. Bottom line, it's just hate and no amount of wins or success will change it for some. We saw this same stupid mentality with Cower. And after Tomlin's gone, they will remember him fondly.
SMH.
Raise your hand if you were one who would have said "Playoffs" if someone had told you the following this summer:
1. Pouncey would be lost for a majority, if not all of the season due to an injury suffered during a preseason game.
2. Beachum would be lost for a majority of the season due to a knee injury suffered during an early season game.
3. Bell would be lost for the remainder of the season due to a knee injury suffered during the first Cinci game.
4. Bryant would be unavailable for the first four games of the season due to his love of Mary Jane.
5. Ben would be lost for four games due to injury
A) Michael Vick and Landry MotherFuckin Jones would be our QBs during Ben's absence.
6. Our secondary
Even having this team in contention for a playoff spot after dealing with all of that during the season ... Yeah, Tomlin's a better coach than some of y'all give him credit for. Yep, he's earned the extension that he was given last summer. All he needs now is a couple of wins in January to shut some of y'all up for a bit. And if they're gonna win a couple, they might as well win four.
1. Pouncey would be lost for a majority, if not all of the season due to an injury suffered during a preseason game.
2. Beachum would be lost for a majority of the season due to a knee injury suffered during an early season game.
3. Bell would be lost for the remainder of the season due to a knee injury suffered during the first Cinci game.
4. Bryant would be unavailable for the first four games of the season due to his love of Mary Jane.
5. Ben would be lost for four games due to injury
A) Michael Vick and Landry MotherFuckin Jones would be our QBs during Ben's absence.
6. Our secondary
Even having this team in contention for a playoff spot after dealing with all of that during the season ... Yeah, Tomlin's a better coach than some of y'all give him credit for. Yep, he's earned the extension that he was given last summer. All he needs now is a couple of wins in January to shut some of y'all up for a bit. And if they're gonna win a couple, they might as well win four.
Slash, this was something Cowher teams did too. Incessantly. We always played down to lesser teams. Remember the Colts and the Chargers in the playoffs at Three Rivers? Good lord we shoulda blown those teams out.
I lost 10 years on my life sweating those Cowher-coached teams letting the Browns or Cardinals stay in games back in the day.
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If the Steelers, minus so many injured starters, can take the intensity of the second half of the Broncos game and turn it into some playoff success, then I will cease criticism of Tomlin....not because he hasn't made some headscratchingly inconsistent in-game decisions, but because the playoff success would justify the means.
Just like I can forgive Ben his really bad interceptions, and learned to forgive his inability to snap the damn ball with more than 2 seconds left on the play clock, I can forget Tomlin's clear sideline flaws if the end product -- being elite in the playoffs, is attained, especially in such an injury crazy year. This doesn't mean that there is not plenty of room for improvement for Tomlin and his decisions, but just that his poor-decision making was overcome by playoff success, even if if did rob the Steelers of a home playoff game.
Just like I can forgive Ben his really bad interceptions, and learned to forgive his inability to snap the damn ball with more than 2 seconds left on the play clock, I can forget Tomlin's clear sideline flaws if the end product -- being elite in the playoffs, is attained, especially in such an injury crazy year. This doesn't mean that there is not plenty of room for improvement for Tomlin and his decisions, but just that his poor-decision making was overcome by playoff success, even if if did rob the Steelers of a home playoff game.
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Same here.
What does a head coach do?
Pick who plays. Here Tomlin's infatuation with Blake and fear of playing Boykin was an issue.
Tomlin's clock management and use of timeouts leave a lot to be desired, and sometimes he gambles when he shouldn't.
Our pass defense remains terrible, and too often the team plays down to the level of inferior competition.
Bottom line, we have good talent, but have not won a playoff game in years....
Ben masks so many mistakes. If Tomlin had to play Tomzack, Graham, or Stewart for more than one season, he'd be grilled.
Our coach of the year was the OL coach ( Munchak )
So, what you're saying is that if the Tomlin led Steelers make a deep playoff run you'll grudgingly give him some small portion of respect while simultaneously making that potential compliment a backhanded one. Seems legit.
It's not a inability. Ben is trying to get the defense to show their hand. Show their blitz and coverage. If hey show too early Ben can change the play if doesn't like the play called in the huddle versus what he seeing. Lately opposing teams have used that to get a good jump on the snap.
I'm not sure this deserves a response other than - !@# you...
I'm not sure Coach. Stewart, Maddox, Tomzack, and Graham all are better than Landry and Vick this season.
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4 games with Vick or Landry or several seasons with bad QB play. Huge difference.
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Did you ever play or coach? Didn't think so. People often use humor to avoid debates...
But Tomlin is ridiculed and held responsible for bringing in those guys..apparently Cowher woke up one morning and those were his QBs.
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I don't understand why you feel this is an appropriate response. You can disagree with Coach, but I see nothing in his post worthy of telling him F you. I happen to agree with much of his takes, but even if I didn't, I wouldn't feel it appropriate to tell him to F off.
<shrugs shoulders>
I also believe having Ben, in his prime, covers a lot of warts and foibles. I do not believe Tomlin is a good X's and O's coach, as a matter of fact, I don't think he really even tries to be. If we succeed it will be from player leadership, more than anything Mike does.
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Tomlin sucks.
Jeff George was available in Free Agency. Cowher passed. Montana was available via trade. Cowher passed. Each and every one of those QBs that you mentioned - Stewart, Maddox, Tomczack and Graham - were guys that Cowher decided to take a flyer on. So, his having to work with those guys was a result of his own decision making. Therefore, he gets no "extra credit" for working with **** QBs when that's what he CHOSE to do.
Actually, Coach, I have...come on my house and have a look at my trophies - player and coach. But, I'm not the topic of discussion.
You have an intimate displeasure for Coach Tomlin---as if he took something from you---others here have the same problem as you; but, it doesn't matter, not one of you pay the man and none of us are on the shortlist to replace him, God forbid...
I use humor to keep smiling---meet me over in God&Religion and we can debate on your favorite topics...
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