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This has been the Week for Self-Destruction

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Can you believe the collapse of the Saints in the last two minutes of the Falcon game? They were in FG range for the tying points, and Brees throws an int in the end zone. Then they have the chance to get the ball one more time, and Sean Payton runs out on the field and gets an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty to give Atlanta a first down and close out the game. Did the Bungles move south? smh


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It happens a lot during the season. Saints got greedy going over the middle of the field late in the game. Falcons did everything in their power to give that game away too.
 
We've had that similar cinerio happen to us before to. It sucks but it happens. The part I don't like it Brees complains about Thursday night football as the injuries pile up. He may not have been using that as an excuse but it seemed like tears after the loss type complaining to me. I get where he is coming from as it is a HUGE toll on the players to play on ONLY 4-days rest. Personally I would be for eliminating Thursday night football because of the saturation of it and the injuries do play into my decision also. Will the 200 million dollar man consider it,.....HELL no as that is part of revenue generating he needs to justify his $$$$$ making prowess.




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That loss is all Peyton's. In FG range, first down. 2min, you ******* run the ball or short passes to eat clock and TOs. No game plan should be throwing to the EZ on first down, giving the other team a full 2min to win the game?

This is why I love Tomlin's management. If he's on the opponent's side of the field in end game, and we're down by less than 3 or tied, we're going to kick a walk off FG. That is how you ensure victory.
 
Wait Ryan and Brees threw crappy INTs? Impossible they are real QBs and never do that.

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Cope said:
That loss is all Peyton's. In FG range, first down. 2min, you ******* run the ball or short passes to eat clock and TOs. No game plan should be throwing to the EZ on first down, giving the other team a full 2min to win the game?

This is why I love Tomlin's management. If he's on the opponent's side of the field in end game, and we're down by less than 3 or tied, we're going to kick a walk off FG. That is how you ensure victory.
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I understand taking a shot for the win, but you can’t throw an INT. receiver wasn’t open. That was like taking a sack and putting yourself out of FG range, or with no timeouts. A veteran QB has to know better.


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Cras108er said:
I understand taking a shot for the win, but you can’t throw an INT. receiver wasn’t open. That was like taking a sack and putting yourself out of FG range, or with no timeouts. A veteran QB has to know better.


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The problem was the down and distance, location on the field with the time left. It was a failure in strategy. The play was 2nd and 10 from the 11, Atlanta had used it's second TO on the previous play. You run the ball here or throw a short pass/screen to see how close you can get to the EZ, and force ATL to use their 3rd TO. This sets up a 3rd down with 1:22 left, where you can go for the yardage. If you don't get the yardage, you hopefully run the clock to 1:15 range and elapse the 45sec, leaving 30 on the clock before kicking the FG, which would elapse about another 5sec dropping to 25sec for the KO. If the kick is kicked to the 10 yard line, you are forcing another 6-10 seconds to elapse. Now ATL has the ball deep in their territory with under 20sec, needing 50yrds with no TOs for a GW FG. That is a low percentage for success and proper clock management to get you to OT, if your team did not score the TD.

Scoring the TD on 2nd down would have given the falcons the ball with 1:20 and a timeout to score the game winning TD. This has a higher percentage chance of a negative outcome than 16sec needing 50yards.

I love end game/half strategy, and we're really good at it. It's why we win games or go to the half on walk off FGs. I'm prepping an article on it, and I couldn't believe how good we are at this after doing some research. more to come.
 
Cope said:
The problem was the down and distance, location on the field with the time left. It was a failure in strategy. The play was 2nd and 10 from the 11, Atlanta had used it's second TO on the previous play. You run the ball here or throw a short pass/screen to see how close you can get to the EZ, and force ATL to use their 3rd TO. This sets up a 3rd down with 1:22 left, where you can go for the yardage. If you don't get the yardage, you hopefully run the clock to 1:15 range and elapse the 45sec, leaving 30 on the clock before kicking the FG, which would elapse about another 5sec dropping to 25sec for the KO. If the kick is kicked to the 10 yard line, you are forcing another 6-10 seconds to elapse. Now ATL has the ball deep in their territory with under 20sec, needing 50yrds with no TOs for a GW FG. That is a low percentage for success and proper clock management to get you to OT, if your team did not score the TD.

Scoring the TD on 2nd down would have given the falcons the ball with 1:20 and a timeout to score the game winning TD. This has a higher percentage chance of a negative outcome than 16sec needing 50yards.

I love end game/half strategy, and we're really good at it. It's why we win games or go to the half on walk off FGs. I'm prepping an article on it, and I couldn't believe how good we are at this after doing some research. more to come.
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Great analogy Cope and I believe CMVLT has gotten way way better at it than he has been in a long time. I credit Coach Tomlin as he takes the credit for wins / losses / road bumps / ect.ect.. I've been following this aspect
of the game much more seriously due to your's and other's comments here on this GREATEST message board ever. You make it very clear and precise and actually game time real. Thanks again



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I'm just glad the sports mouthpieces are talking about the Saints, Sean Peyton's sideline antics and the goddamned Browns hiring a new GM.
Now maybe these STEELERS can focus on how to bring #50 a game ball Sunday night.
 
December is nut cracking month

Happens every year, teams crack when the pressure is on. That's what is so great about the schedules they do now - all these division games at the end make it death match time
 
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