The Zapruder, I mean Porter video

[madinsomniac]

Again, the bengals' stories don't match the facts we have... none of them...
They said "jerry porter" walked into the bengals defensive huddle.. we see that is untrue...
They claimed assistant coached weren't permitted on the field during that time, but we see multiple of their coaches on the field on the same play and on earlier situations like that.
They claimed porter was talking **** that cause jones to snap, but he was 100% quiet in that timeframe from when jones came over till jones threw the punch.
They claim brown was faking and Burfict never hit his head and was trying to pull up, but we see that's not the case.
Also they keep saying that jones got a foul for yapping at Porter... that wasn't rtue either... it was contact with the ref trying to get to Porter that drew it... it was an over the top move when Porter is 100% clearly walking away
there are at least 3 personal fouls that could have been called on them... 4 if Burfict truly made the put you to sleep comments... the burfict hit, the jones punch, and the Gillberry hit on porter... even if the refs called porter for something... that's still at least 2 separate penalties on the bengals after the initial call.


The thing is this wasn't something that was "in the heat of the moment" the bengals and their fans carry a grudge and are extremely jealous of us... its why the Bully talk is always thrown around when they speak of us... Its a vendetta that is getting dangerous... they hate Porter... hate him... he was a part of that 05 team they cannot get over. He is a loudmouth and trash talks from the sidelines. This was them trying to take their frustrations out from not being able to seal the deal when they had their chances now with violence. They were trying to knock out our stars... they were trying to take a shot at porter... they aren't able to let things go...

 

[Stryker]

It's nice to see that an entire roster of players in Cincy, that never played against Joey Porter in 05, can still hate the man as much as the team that lost to him in 05.

Joey Porter, In Bengals players heads since 1999!

 

[Max Power]

It's nice to see that an entire roster of players in Cincy, that never played against Joey Porter in 05, can still hate the man as much as the team that lost to him in 05.

Joey Porter, In Bengals players heads since 1999!

It's his Legacy.

Alas Joey is off to the scene of the butt shooting. Take that Bungles..

 

[SteelerSask2]

Very good compilation. Didn't someone here do it. I highly doubt the story where supposedly the trainer heard Burfict tell AB I put you to sleep. The ref is pretty close and his hand gestures show me more like he was wishing him the best or whatever fake BS he said. Not impossible that he said that, but I doubt it.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Why were the Bengal players even there? The refs should've had all of them away from the damn area, none of them needed to be there. They were out there pissing, moaning, whining, talking **** because BirthDefect just committed one of the dumbest penalties in Bunghole history, and for the Bungholes, that says a lot. How many Steelers were milling around Bernard when he was being assisted off the field? Sort of one on the periphery, Mike Mitchell, and he's being ushered away by an official just before they help Bernard from the field.



Now contrast that with whatever the hell the Bungholes were doing, trying to get to Brown, milling around jawing, and then bumping into anyone and everyone.

Exactly. If they go back to their sideline like they should, there is no penalty and they might win the game since the FG will be 15 yards longer. Of course in the Vikings-GB game we see that there is no such thing as a chip shot in bad weather. Meantime Joey Porter is living rent-free in Jones' and Birdshit's heads.

 

[cpollock]

If you notice ... What ever Porter says the Ref is there to hear it .. so BELIEVE me if it was what pacman said it was there would definitely been offsetting penalties ..

 

[madinsomniac]

Its hilarious that many bengals fans are complaining about our "propaganda" that we are putting out there... cause we all know that the words of virtual felons just caught doing something stupid are far better than rules, video, pictures, and logic...

 

[steelerscotty]

Why were the Bengal players even there? The refs should've had all of them away from the damn area, none of them needed to be there. They were out there pissing, moaning, whining, talking **** because BirthDefect just committed one of the dumbest penalties in Bunghole history, and for the Bungholes, that says a lot. How many Steelers were milling around Bernard when he was being assisted off the field? Sort of one on the periphery, Mike Mitchell, and he's being ushered away by an official just before they help Bernard from the field.



Now contrast that with whatever the hell the Bungholes were doing, trying to get to Brown, milling around jawing, and then bumping into anyone and everyone.

Only one player, a steeler player, was around Bernard when he was hurt. Mike Mitchell stayed with him out of concern. All of Bernard's teammates were off trying to use a (arguably) clean football hit as an excuse to start a fight.

 

[t-man]

I suggest you go look at this post, with screen grabs and the actual, full, end of game video. It covers a critical 13 seconds and fills in the gaps you're missing.

http://steelernation.com/showthread...tdown-in-Cincy&p=208701&viewfull=1#post208701

Thanks to Zack_of_Steel, we have the full end of the game, where these screen grabs come from. Go watch all of it, for yourself. https://youtu.be/eL-AE1ZRp0k?t=8m23s



You're simply not viewing and seeing the video evidence correctly. You need to look at both videos, and piece them together. First, Bengals players were all around Brown and the trainers the whole time he was down, moving like a swarm. They didn't have to magically appear, they were everywhere, as pictured:

Joey was standing over Brown at Brown's feet, until Brown was being stood up. This is one of the critical pictures. Keep in mind the direction of Brown's body. His head is to the right, his feet to the left.

Vontaze is in that group of Bengals around Brown's head, but not pictured (just his feet). Not pictured in that photo (but in other photos) is that there are Bengal players "below" this image if you will from Brown's now seated body - as well. Literally, Bengals were all around Brown.

As Brown is being stood up, Vontaze approaches Joey. Pictured. Critical pieces to put together - you can just make out #57 in the picture at 8:23. Then, you see #57 again in the picture at 8:26. Pay close attention to the time stamps throughout. Every picture shown, so far, comes from the actual tape of the game, so the time is real time as it unfolded.

Brown is being "sat up" at 8:23 (image above). Porter is at Brown's feet.
At 8:26 (below), Vontaze leaves the group of Bengals around Brown's head and approaches Porter.
At 8:30, Vontaze gets in front of Porter, saying something.

Vontaze turns around after the image at 8:30, 180 degrees, to put his hand on Brown's shoulder. Porter still has not moved.

When Joey sees the scuffle with the trainer, he steps towards the Steelers bench, towards Brown and the trainer, to get between Vontaze, the Bengals and our team (the wall you speak of, the wall that was essentially pursuing Brown). Brown and the training staff continue off the field, and that's when Gilberrry walks into Joey, forcing him into the group of Bengals that had been between Brown and the Bengals bench.

Watch, again, the GIF movie: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wysECduSPfk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>




I think you see, from the above, how Joey stepped around the Bengals, and a better understanding of why now.



No one can say what Porter's next move was going to be when Burfict touched Brown and scuffled with the trainer. Mere seconds before Brown was being lifted off the ground. But we can see what happened, and that is evident. I can assume Porter was going to walk off the field. But Burfict escalated, and Porter stepped in. At that point, Porter couldn't leave the field, because Gilberry walked into Porter's back, shoving him into the crowd of Bengals. Again all of this is on the the videos and clips.



I don't believe anyone is absolving Joey of saying something. But the video evidence from 8:23 on speaks for itself. We know Burfict approaches Porter as he's being sat up and says something. Joey's head is pointing away. I'm quite sure at that moment, Porter had something to say. Seconds later, Bufict turns, puts his hand on Brown's should, and purportedly made the "Put you to sleep" comment. Porter steps in after the scuffle with the trainer. At that moment, Porter may have said something else. But the video shows Porter says nothing (he only smiles) after Gilberry walked into Porter's back.

I think we've seen that it takes little to nothing for the Bengals players of that ilk to snap. I doubt Joey had to say much, if anything, as incensed as they were.

Is there any way you can get this writeup out to someone who can publish it. Man, I gotta say, my fellow Steeler fans are the best, I don't think there is another group out there that would go to this length to accurately describe what went on. And I still can't believe with all the dirty, nasty bullshit that went on in that game, somehow Peezy is the ******* problem. I mean, you've GOT to be kidding me. He literally doesn't raise his hand even once!

Joe

 

[cpollock]

So did anyone hear of any fines being levied for the Wildcard game - they usually come out on Wed right ?

 

[Steel G]

So did anyone hear of any fines being levied for the Wildcard game - they usually come out on Wed right ?

Nothing yet outside of Burfefects well earned 3 game suspension. Monday they were saying Munchak's ordeal was being looked into but nothing has been said since. Meanwhile, the media was all over saying Porter would, should or could get hit with a fine but I've seen nothing official about that. I guess something could still come out today or tomorrow.

 

[papillon]

Of course Porter is talking, when did talking become a penalty? Players talk all game long, I dont' recall seeing flags thrown for talking. You have to be impressed with the restraint that Porter shows once he is bumped into the Bengal group of players and then AV or DD gets him out of there before it escalates. To me that's the exact definition of restraint, he may have also baited them with his tongue, so what, Pacman Jones is the one that got unhinged and ended up pushing/hitting a referee and that's why he got penalized. If he had simply taken a swipe at Porter and not hit the ref, I doubt he gets a penalty.

Papillon