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The officiating

Did the replay confirm that the ball touched the ground without him maintaining control? Nope.

Yes it did.

Common sense says it was a catch and TD. But the "letter of the rule" says it wasn't.

At the end of the play you can clearly see the ball move; it actually "rolled" a tiny bit.

That's why the call was overturned. BS, yes, but that's what happened.
 
Yes it did.

Common sense says it was a catch and TD. But the "letter of the rule" says it wasn't.

At the end of the play you can clearly see the ball move; it actually "rolled" a tiny bit.

That's why the call was overturned. BS, yes, but that's what happened.

Just cause it moves doesn't mean it touches the ground without his possession. I just didn't see the evidence to overturn it.
It is what it is. **ts just seem to get all those breaks.
 
It is different than the scenario you gave. Why? you have to go back decades to see a lopsided penalty called game like we saw. If it wasn't so ******* lopsided I would say nothing. But it clearly was, clearly.

It was a great game heavily ref influenced. And that is a fact.

The only penalty that really bothered me was Burns PI on Gronk when they were both facing the ball, playing the ball and hand checking. Terrible call.

I would have been upset about Bryant's TD catch when he had his hand held, but he caught it, so it didn't matter whether it was called.

When you get to endgame, refs are much less likely to throw flags to affect the outcome. That's why it's always smart on last plays of games/halves to hold. Pats have always done it, and usually they don't get called for it.

Ben completes that ball to Eli and this is a much different board today.
 
this was obviously not a hold

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That's not a foul. Refs were confused and thought Davis was Harrison...
 
The only penalty that really bothered me was Burns PI on Gronk when they were both facing the ball, playing the ball and hand checking. Terrible call.

I would have been upset about Bryant's TD catch when he had his hand held, but he caught it, so it didn't matter whether it was called.

When you get to endgame, refs are much less likely to throw flags to affect the outcome. That's why it's always smart on last plays of games/halves to hold. Pats have always done it, and usually they don't get called for it.

Ben completes that ball to Eli and this is a much different board today.

Call a hold on him, holding Eli and it is a much different board today.
 
The whole thing feels scripted. Been saying it for years. The mob is most definitely involved. I just hoped that the mob might be in our corner...for once...against the evil empire...but no. Same old ****.
 
That's just it Mighty. Now that you realize the games are fixed. You can't ever really watch them the same again. Makes you a little sick.
 
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...But it is absolutely unequivocally uncanny/amazing that at the end of THREE wins this season. the Patriots have been on the winning side of disputed rules/calls:

Seferian-Jenkins NYJ "fumble"

Brandin Cooks "catch" in the end zone vs. Hou

Jesse James overturned catch in Pgh
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My wife is more pissed than me. She thinks the nfl is fake and has been avoiding it for years now...She won't waste her time on "fake bullshit".
 
Don't think this has been mentioned. But on the 2-point pass to Gronkowski, did anyone else think he could have been flagged for taunting?

He pointed at Davis, then gestured with his body as if he was getting a big belly laugh on the play.
 
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Don't this has been mentioned. But on the 2-point pass to Gronkowski, did anyone else think he could have been flagged for taunting?

He pointed at Davis, then gestured with his body as if he was getting a big belly laugh on the play.

I pointed that out in my original post. Clearly taunting.
 
I pointed that out in my original post. Clearly taunting.

Sorry, I missed it. But agree 100 percent.

I will say, I don't buy the fix-is-in stuff.

The Patriots of course are well-known. But they aren't well-liked.

The NFL knows that. So it would make no sense for the league hierarchy, and the refs, to favor the big, bad Patriots.

A real factor is that Brady does a masterful job of working the refs. He started early in the game yesterday, and did it often.

But as far as showing up for road games, no team has a bigger fan presence than the Steelers.

Just watch next Monday. The Patriots would never have 20,000 fans at NRG Stadium. The Steelers will, and maybe then some.
 
That will be so inspiring without Brown and Shazier. Will one of those fans be a true #1 receiving threat by chance?

Cause last I checked the Steelers aint got much behind Brown. Ya Ju Ju can get some great possession yards but I suspect he'll see some doubles now. That will make him invisible. We know Rogers can't catch. Even if Bryant DOES catch the ball the coaches will pull him and put somebody else in.

It seems James can't catch the ball either.

I say we get on board with Spikes 3 'n A HALF YARDS *******!!! game plan and hope it works out. Course we don't know what the status is with Conner. So... Let's all say a prayer that Toussaint plays a hella game as the backup.
 
Yep which is why players have to avoid going to the ground if they dont have too.
 
spike yinz can post the same **** till it spills out your ***, most fans know we got the shaft and no hack commentary will change that opinion
 
Get over it

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Where in the rules does it say what "completes the catch" is defined as? We have seen plays where a receiver takes 2 steps with the ball, has it knocked loose, and the officials have said he has not completed the catch. The biggest problem with the NFL rules committee is that they continue to place language into the rule book with no clarity or definition as to what that language actually means. "Completes the catch", "Survive the ground","make a football move"...etc show me where there is a written definition as to what any of those actually mean other than leaving it up to interpretation.
 
Does anyone have a still shot right before we snapped the ball on the last play? It looked like one of their guys was in the nuetral zone

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Don't think this has been mentioned. But on the 2-point pass to Gronkowski, did anyone else think he could have been flagged for taunting?

He pointed at Davis, then gestured with his body as if he was getting a big belly laugh on the play.

Oh yeah...it was pointed out during the game. Lewis flexed at the whole Defense for a 5 seconds before that. Clearly taunting...the thing they suspended JuJU for. Absurd.
 
Steelers choked



The Steelers, not the refs, are to blame for the loss to the Patriots


Blaming the refs is misguided, and the Steelers should look in the mirror when searching for someone to blame. New England deserves credit for making the plays necessary to win, too, but, frankly, the Steelers had the game won and choked.

It should never have come down to the controversial play in the first place. Even after that play, the Steelers had a chance to win and couldn’t score in two more plays from inside the 5. It wasn’t the refs who forced Hall of Fame quarterback Ben Roethlisberger to make an idiotic decision to force a ball to a covered receiver to end the game with an unnecessary interception.

That sequence is overlooked, mostly because it takes away from the idea that the Steelers were robbed. True to form, Roethlisberger explained that the call came from the sidelines — so, in his standard passive-aggressive way of deflecting blame, he threw offensive coordinator Todd Haley under the bus.

Roethlisberger said after the game he wanted to spike the ball but Haley chimed in and told him to run a play. So, he ran a play, and the result was his game-ending interception. Roethlisberger’s story is fishy to begin with. He always wants to go for the score, always wants to be aggressive and always wants to play to win. Yet now, we’re supposed to believe that, with the game on the line and the chance to be a hero, he all of the sudden wanted to defer to Chris Boswell and go to overtime?

Even if we accept that explanation, it still wasn’t Haley’s fault Roethlisberger stared Eli Rogers down and threw the ball into triple coverage. Even if he was forced to run a play, all he had to do was throw the ball out of the back of the end zone once he saw Rogers wasn’t open. He didn’t, and that was the end of the game.

Haley and/or Tomlin have to share some of the blame for their ultra-conservative play-calling earlier in the fourth quarter. The Steelers had the ball and a 24-16 lead. A holding penalty on Alejandro Villanueva put the Steelers in second-and-20 from their own 28, and rather than try to get a first down, the Steelers basically gave up on the drive. They ran the ball up the middle twice for 5 yards, then Roethlisberger threw a short, safe pass to Martavis Bryant for 6 yards. The Steelers were forced to punt.

That sequence gave the Patriots an opening. Yes, first-and-20 is challenging, but Roethlisberger is a Hall of Famer, so why not let him try to get the first down? A first down at that point probably means the Steelers win and nobody is talking about James and the non-catch catch.

The Steelers’ defensive play-calling on the Patriots’ winning drive was atrocious, too. Why was Sean Davis given the assignment of trying to cover Rob Gronkowski with no help at the most critical point in the game?

Brady said after the game the Steelers were being aggressive and trying to challenge the Patriots, which allowed Gronkowski the single-coverage looks he was getting. Why, at that point in the game, did the Steelers decide to be aggressive and gamble?

The Steelers dominated the Patriots for about 52 minutes, but then in the final eight minutes they lost their minds and blew the game. That’s why the focus on referees and a single play is ridiculous. That focus takes away from the Patriots making plays to win and lets the Steelers off the hook for poor decisions, bad plays and questionable coaching down the stretch.

You can blame the refs all you want if it makes you feel better, but you’re fooling yourself. This loss is squarely on the Steelers’ shoulders.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...-playoff-picture-seeding/stories/201712180111
 
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