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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

That's not true at all. According to you folks, he sure loves the **** out of Russia and China doesn't he? Just totally loves them!

Yes, you're right. I stand corrected.
 
While we obsess over Trump, China is making history

While news and analysis in the United States continue to be obsessed with President Trump’s daily antics and insults, halfway around the world, something truly historic just happened. China signaled that it now sees itself as the world’s other superpower, positioning itself as the alternative, if not rival, to the United States.

This is not my opinion based on reading the tea leaves of Chinese politics. It is the clearly articulated view of China’s supreme leader, Xi Jinping. In his speech last week to the 19th Communist Party Congress , Xi declared that China is at a “historic juncture,” entering a “new era” that will be marked by the country becoming a “mighty force” in the world and a role model for political and economic development. He asserted that China’s “political system . . . is a great creation” that offers “a new choice for other countries.” And he insisted that the country will defend its interests zealously while also becoming a global leader on issues such as climate change and trade.

Ever since China abandoned its Maoist isolation in the 1970s, its guiding philosophy was set by Deng Xiaoping. At that time, China needed to learn from the West, especially the United States, and integrate itself into the existing international order. According to Deng, it should be humble and modest in its foreign policy, “hide its light under a bushel,” and “bide its time.” But the time has now come, in Xi’s view, and he said the Middle Kingdom is ready to “take center stage in the world.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.982714f926b3
 
No, we view Trump as a flag waving, firework shooting, confetti flying, red, white and blue, "Murica-first", bigot who doesn't care about anyone else besides himself.




Riiiiight, and Hillary was the one who truly wanted to make America great again.
 
China signaled that it now sees itself as the world’s other superpower, positioning itself as the alternative, if not rival, to the United States.

This should come as a shock to absolutely no one.

DANANG, Vietnam — President Trump has issued two starkly contradictory calls on his trip to Asia this past week: The nations of the world must rally behind the United States to confront the nuclear threat from North Korea, but they should expect America to go its own way on trade.

Reconciling those messages will be hard, and it may determine the near-term fate of the United States as a Pacific power.

But the contradictions also reflect a more fundamental disarray in the presidency’s policy toward Asia. It seems caught between the geopolitical realism of Mr. Trump’s diplomats and the economic nationalism of his political aides.

These competing impulses have left allies and adversaries alike confused about America’s motives and staying power. Over time, several experts said, the balancing act will be impossible to maintain.

With the smaller nations of Southeast Asia, Mr. Trump may feel less pressure to compromise. His comments in Vietnam lacked the solicitous tone he had used in China and Japan, veering into the defiant populism he used on the campaign trail. Yet his go-it-alone message could drive these countries further into the orbit of China, which has moved at this meeting of Pacific leaders to fill the vacuum left by the United States.

“The region is looking for a robust American presence, not just on security but on trade,” said John Delury, an associate professor of Chinese studies at Yonsei University in Seoul, the South Korean capital. “For Trump to come with an ‘America First’ agenda leaves Asian leaders in the lurch.”

“They’re always looking for hedges against local bullies, like China,” he added, “and the U.S. is much less of a hedge.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 



President Trump Meets With Vietnam Vets in Danang to Mark Veterans Day


U.S. President Donald Trump marked his first Veterans Day in office by meeting with several veterans in Danang, where the first U.S. conventional troops landed during the Vietnam War more than 50 years ago.

"One of my great honors is to represent the people standing right behind me -- great, great warriors and veterans of the Vietnam War," Trump said in the meeting at the Hyatt Regency Danang Resort and Spa.

"To each of you with me today, you are the heroes who fulfilled your duty to our nation. And each of you, under the most difficult conditions, did what you had to do, and you did it well," the president said. He was attending an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) conference in Danang following stops on his Asian tour in Japan, South Korea and China.

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Our veterans are a national treasure and I thank them all for their service, sacrifice and patriotism," Trump said. He continued, "They're brave, they're strong, they're great patriots and we just want to thank you and all of the thousands and thousands and all of the people that served with you and in all of the other wars."

Trump shook hands and shared hugs with the veterans who also thanked him for supporting the military.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/11/10/trump-meets-vietnam-vets-danang-mark-veterans-day.html
 
What? All those Liberal prognosticators were wrong - AGAIN?


Foreign tourism to New York City is set to rise 3.6 percent this year — defying yet another of the many doomsday predictions about Donald Trump’s presidency.

Back in February, the city tourism agency said Trump’s “travel ban and related rhetoric” would mean a drop of 300,000 visitors this year. But the NYC & Co. prophecy proved false.

Of course, other predictions were more dire — particularly those about the stock market.

Finance expert Steve Rattner foresaw “a market crash of historic proportions” under a President Trump. Moody’s warned of a “weaker” economy. Many said 2 percent GDP growth was the best that could be hoped for.

Other doomsayers included Mark Cuban, CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin and firms such as Bridgewater Associates and Macroeconomic Advisers. (A less-dishonorable mention goes to Nobel-winning economist Paul Krugman, who at least walked back his doomsaying about “a global recession, with no end in sight,” soon after election night.)

In fact, the Dow has climbed more than 25 percent since Hillary Clinton conceded. And the first two full quarters of Trump’s term both saw growth of 3 percent or more. Oops.

More recently, Trump’s cutbacks of money to help folks sign up for ObamaCare brought warnings that enrollment would surely plummet. Hah! Over the first few days of open enrollment this year, a record number of people signed up, The Hill reported Tuesday.

The first day alone saw 200,000 sign-ups, twice last year’s number, and more than 1 million visited healthcare.gov, versus 750,000 in 2016.

As for all the noise about fascism and tyranny: Trump has scrupulously obeyed the law, even as judges came up with unprecedented legal theories to strike down his “travel ban” executive orders.

None of this guarantees that the markets won’t turn south eventually, or that ObamaCare won’t run into the rocks. But it does tell you that talk of Trump-fueled armageddon is partisan hysteria, unhinged from reality.
 
No, we view Trump as a flag waving, firework shooting, confetti flying, red, white and blue, "Murica-first", bigot who doesn't care about anyone else besides himself.

So? Whats wrong with that?
 
1-year later.....

Domestically, the economy is growing better than at any point during Obama's tenure. We've had 3%+ growth for almost 8 months. Best 12 months of the stock market maybe ever. Investment by businesses is looking great. AND all this is being accomplished while the FED slowly raises interest rates (which they should). This isn't some bullshit economic growth like Obama had, which was terrible considering how much he deficit spent assisted by the FED lowering interest rates to practically nothing. Obama's stimulus package was only 1% to 1.5% growth effective because energy priced plummeted during this first term (through no help of his executive branch or policies).

Illegal immigration is down. Legal immigration is steady. Border control is the best it's been in a generation. No harm to our economy (like some forecast). No drastic collapse of our tourism economy (like some forecast).

Healthcare costs are steady and Obamacare is still around (which is what the country actually wants even if it's flawed). Liberals really can't ***** at all on the health care issue. Hard to put the cat back into the bag when any proposal to correct Obamacare gets splashed across the media as "20 million going to 'lose' healthcare because they choose not to continue signing up!".

So domestically, what exactly are liberals so upset about? Are you complaining that a republican congress and Trump are not getting enough done? If anyone should be complaining on that it should be republicans, not democrats.

Let's look at foreign policy to see why democrats are so upset...

No changes Trump has started negotiating on trade have made that bid a difference to our economy. Taking us out of the TPP and Paris Climate agreement have not caused the world to stop rotating or the economy to collapse or islands to get swamped by the ocean.

ISIS is at the lowest point of power in a decade. I haven't seen a chemical weapon from Assad recently. Saudi Arabia seems to be trying to do some good as the antithesis of Iran. Things are stable.

North Korea is a problem but nothing Trump is doing is changing that. His trip to Asia looks to have at least brought together everyone on the same page with North Korea and now we have to hope a peaceful, embargo driven solution happens to stop antagonism from North Korea and their random missile launches and nuke tests.

Europe seems good. Relations with Russia are okay. Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine yet.

Africa is bad (as always) but at least we're using more drone bombings to attack Islamic extremism.

Really, on a foreign relation issue, things seem better to me than 2 years ago. We have open dialogue with everyone - China, EU, Russia, Japan, SE Asia. Trump's talked to almost everyone is person now. That's good.

I don't know. Seems like a pretty good year to me if you take away the media spin of incompetence, Russia collusion and corruption (all unproven).
 
Beef has gotten kind of expensive, if you open China to beef purchases, you'll help the cattle rancher, but prices for
consumers will go higher.
 
Beef has gotten kind of expensive, if you open China to beef purchases, you'll help the cattle rancher, but prices for
consumers will go higher.

Jesus....speaking of grasping for ANYTHING in the never-ending witch hunt.

What are your thoughts on Trump having two scoops Mr. Nobel Laureate ?
 
Beef has gotten kind of expensive, if you open China to beef purchases, you'll help the cattle rancher, but prices for
consumers will go higher.

Good..............My wife's best friend owns a beef farm.
 
Beef has gotten kind of expensive, if you open China to beef purchases, you'll help the cattle rancher, but prices for
consumers will go higher.

Liberals are always saying we should eat less beef. They want to regulate it, don't they? Higher prices will help this.
 



President Trump Meets With Vietnam Vets in Danang to Mark Veterans Day


U.S. President Donald Trump marked his first Veterans Day in office by meeting with several veterans in Danang, where the first U.S. conventional troops landed during the Vietnam War more than 50 years ago.

"One of my great honors is to represent the people standing right behind me -- great, great warriors and veterans of the Vietnam War," Trump said in the meeting at the Hyatt Regency Danang Resort and Spa.

"To each of you with me today, you are the heroes who fulfilled your duty to our nation. And each of you, under the most difficult conditions, did what you had to do, and you did it well," the president said. He was attending an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) conference in Danang following stops on his Asian tour in Japan, South Korea and China.

trump-vietnam-vet-1200-10-nov-2017-ts600.png


Our veterans are a national treasure and I thank them all for their service, sacrifice and patriotism," Trump said. He continued, "They're brave, they're strong, they're great patriots and we just want to thank you and all of the thousands and thousands and all of the people that served with you and in all of the other wars."

Trump shook hands and shared hugs with the veterans who also thanked him for supporting the military.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/11/10/trump-meets-vietnam-vets-danang-mark-veterans-day.html

Trump insisted that no former POWs be permitted to attend.
 
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Our future as a global power was endangered when Obama started bowing to foreign leaders and leading from behind on foreign policy. That decline didn't start with Donald Trump.
 
Our future as a global power was endangered when Obama started bowing to foreign leaders and leading from behind on foreign policy. That decline didn't start with Donald Trump.
Perhaps, but it has accelerated under Trump. Those with their noses too far up his a-hole simply don't realize it.
 
Perhaps, but it has accelerated under Trump. Those with their noses too far up his a-hole simply don't realize it.

There is no perhaps. SEE: North Korea. Iran. Russia. Saudi Arabia. We were being laughed at long before Trump. I know you hate they guy. I damn sure ain't fond of him. But America's decline in the eyes of the world is hardly his doing alone.
 
There is no perhaps. SEE: North Korea. Iran. Russia. Saudi Arabia. We were being laughed at long before Trump. I know you hate they guy. I damn sure ain't fond of him. But America's decline in the eyes of the world is hardly his doing alone.

Sarge...he's not paid to capitulate, he's paid to denigrate.

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Sarge...he's not paid to capitulate, he's paid to denigrate.

I think you need to direct your rage against the Economist and ask yourself the question, why such a reputable publication would put out a cover story like that. In fact, you may want to go read that article and learn something. Nah, never mind, get back to your crayons and coloring book.
 
I think you need to direct your rage against the Economist and ask yourself the question, why such a reputable publication would put out a cover story like that. In fact, you may want to go read that article and learn something. Nah, never mind, get back to your crayons and coloring book.

Sorry Tibs long time subscriber and since the ownership change the Economist is just another Liberal rag the same as the MSM they have lost all objectivity in the last 8 years. It is a shame too they used be a very non partisan thoughtful source sadly that is no longer the case.
 
Muh Legacy!


Trump admin. to reverse ban on elephant trophies from Africa


The Trump administration plans to allow hunters to import trophies of elephants they killed in Zimbabwe and Zambia back to the United States, reversing a ban put in place by the Obama administration in 2014, a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service official confirmed to ABC News today.

Even though elephants are listed as endangered under the Endangered Species Act, a provision in the act allows the government to give permits to import these trophies if there is evidence that the hunting actually benefits conservation for that species.

The official said they have new information from officials in Zimbabwe and Zambia to support reversing the ban to allow trophy hunting permits.

"Legal, well-regulated sport hunting as part of a sound management program can benefit the conservation of certain species by providing incentives to local communities to conserve the species and by putting much-needed revenue back into conservation," a Fish and Wildlife spokesperson said in a statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-admin-reverse-ban-elephant-trophies-africa/story?id=51178663
 
Sorry Tibs long time subscriber and since the ownership change the Economist is just another Liberal rag the same as the MSM they have lost all objectivity in the last 8 years. It is a shame too they used be a very non partisan thoughtful source sadly that is no longer the case.

Yes, anyone that dares criticize Lord Trump is a Soros-funded, left-wing, subversive menace. All dissention should be ignored and dismissed, opposing viewpoints ridiculed and shunned aside. Pretty much how the Third Reich rose to power, the blueprint is certainly out there.
 
Yes, anyone that dares criticize Lord Trump is a Soros-funded, left-wing, subversive menace. All dissention should be ignored and dismissed, opposing viewpoints ridiculed and shunned aside. Pretty much how the Third Reich rose to power, the blueprint is certainly out there.

I'm pretty sure the Third Reich was very good at scrubbing all information that didn't meet their ideals and promoting the tripe that furthered their cause. For a good example of that, check out CNN, MSN or any other leftist horseshit site some time. I would agree that is how Dictatorships rise to power. Thank goodness there are alternative sources out there now that can counteract their divisive, phony, propagandist bullshit.
 
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