Tibs,
My participation here has waned. The reason being that politics of this world are a garbage dump. Trump is arrogant and petty, but does some pretty impressive things. The dem leadership is over reactive and mis-focused, and not trustworthy. (There are more offenses on both sides, but I want to be brief here).
So, the question is "Can this all be discussed rationally?"
In a rational world, we could all agree that Trump needs to grow up and not be a middle school puke on social media, or in interviews.
In a rational world we.can agree that there is a lot of theft of public money, inconsistent application of justice and reporting, that swift justice for leadership crimes and wrongs must be dealt with harshly, that protection of the citizenry is a huge priority, that going into debt to leverage votes or kickbacks, or . . . . Is needing punishment, and this list goes on.
The sad part is that this rational world does not exist on this side of the grave. So, we are left with petty, ego driven, partial truths and suspicions, driven by loyalty to a political party, at the cost of reason, conversation, respect, integrity, etc.
So, there you have it. We can all continue down this road, or put on the brakes, and call others to rational conversation. You choose. I have chosen.
I'm glad you're still showing up here. Perhaps we can have more civil conversation again.
Djfan