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The Epstein Problem

What should have happened is a handful of Republicans and Democrats should have received full access to the files before redactions and public release. They could have sat down together and went over everything. I do not trust any politician or the politically charged DOJ to fully release the files.
 
Troglodyte said:
Two word question. 200 word response.
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The primary reason you're probably the worst communicator here is your low grasp of the English language and your inability to put it to work in your favor. You prefer bullet list talking points v contextual engagement. It fits your evasive style, however.

Troglodyte said:
There aren’t literally hundreds of pages of victims identities.
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"The exact number of Jeffrey Epstein's victims is unknown, but authorities and victim advocates estimate there are hundreds, potentially over a thousand, of women and children who were victimized over several decades."

You overlook that fact that (example) Virginia Giuffre may be mentioned hundreds, if not thousands of times herself in all of the documents. That's one name that may be redacted thousands of times in the 300K pages of evidence released. Same for each victim. Each victim is named again and again and again and again. Also, any information that may not be a name itself, but could expose a name, had to be redacted.

You seem to be hinting that you believe each redaction is "supposedly" another victim. No.

Troglodyte said:
You don’t question dear leader.
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When I have reason to, I will. Literally, there is currently no reason to.

I'll repeat again - since you intentionally forget what people say, intending to misconstrue - I don't care who it is. Bring anyone down that trafficked, slept with, raped these young women, Trump included.

As of right now, we have a lot of reasons to question Clinton and others. The evidence "produced" (that's a qualifying statement Floggy, see my prior education) doesn't implicate Trump.

Repeating again: Back to my question. Do you want the victims exposed, so as to face potential suiciding? Or is getting DJT so important to you that you are ok with gambling that this "might" be the hook that lands him and any of these victims suffering irreparable harm is ok?
 
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Troglodyte said:
It involves a heinous crime.
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going back to the beginning of this thread. seems like you didn't care much when the dems were n office and could have released documents.
now? you are all over this thread. not much from 2019- Feb 2025. Strange.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
The primary reason you're probably the worst communicator here is your low grasp of the English language and your inability to put it to work in your favor. You prefer bullet list talking points v contextual engagement. It fits your evasive style, however.



"The exact number of Jeffrey Epstein's victims is unknown, but authorities and victim advocates estimate there are hundreds, potentially over a thousand, of women and children who were victimized over several decades."

You overlook that fact that (example) Virginia Giuffre may be mentioned hundreds, if not thousands of times herself in all of the documents. That's one name that may be redacted thousands of times in the 300K pages of evidence released. Same for each victim. Each victim is named again and again and again and again. Also, any information that may not be a name itself, but could expose a name, had to be redacted.

You seem to be hinting that you believe each redaction is "supposedly" another victim. No.



When I have reason to, I will. Literally, there is currently no reason to.

I'll repeat again - since you intentionally forget what people say, intending to misconstrue - I don't care who it is. Bring anyone down that trafficked, slept with, raped these young women, Trump included.

As of right now, we have a lot of reasons to question Clinton and others. The evidence "produced" (that's a qualifying statement Floggy, see my prior education) doesn't implicate Trump.

Repeating again: Back to my question. Do you want the victims exposed, so as to face potential suiciding? Or is getting DJT so important to you that you are ok with gambling that this "might" be the hook that lands him and any of these victims suffering irreparable harm is ok?
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So the victims are grateful that the DOJ is heavily redacting the files or is that the world according to Tim?

 
Troglodyte said:
The redactions were supposed to be limited to information and identities of the victims and minors. Prosecutors, FBI case agents and other law enforcement personnel who testified before the grand jury were not supposed to be redacted. Why do you defend the DOJ disregarding this directive?
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it is redacted, how do you know what it says and what is there?
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
How so? We got nothing about him at all. At least now we have something.
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How so?

The Trump campaign championed the release of the Epstein files.

After the election, Trumps DOJ paraded the files and Bondi bragged about how they were sitting on her desk.

Then nothing.

Then Elon and Trump have their falling out and Musk drops the bomb that Trump is in the Epstein files.

Trump started declaring that the Epstein files were a democratic hoax and any Republican supporting their release would be viewed as hostile toward the administration.

Trump reluctantly releases the files after bi-partisan pressure. They are heavily redacted and it’s met with bipartisan criticism.
 
BLITZ said:
I understand that you had almost nothing to do with this thread until Trump was in office.
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And I understand that when Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women and going into the dressing room of a teen beauty pageant you chose to believe he was lying.
 
Troglodyte said:
The redactions were supposed to be limited to information and identities of the victims and minors. Prosecutors, FBI case agents and other law enforcement personnel who testified before the grand jury were not supposed to be redacted. Why do you defend the DOJ disregarding this directive?
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since the names are redacted, how do you know this is NOT the case? are you even aware that it is entirely possible that a single action could expose a victim? discussion of said event(s) could also. We know not the exact actions that occurred on that island, but we know there was pedophilia and rape. Even saying a victim of x-age could expose one victim who has not come forward. The same could be said of an action exposing a victim.

Unlike you, I don't give one good goddamn who is on the flight logs. I care more about who was participating in the rapes, sexual assaults, and pedophilia actions - those are the ones who need to be drawn and quartered. Flight logs mean ****, just that someone was there. Now, the number of times someone was there gives an increasing scrutiny to precisely what was going on at that time for that/those people. When looking at all this, it needs to be remembered that this was an "elite" class who rubs elbows together, and the appearance of any ce;ebrity/popular name proves that.
 
Troglodyte said:
And I understand that when Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women and going into the dressing room of a teen beauty pageant you chose to believe he was lying.
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no, we have verifiable proof of him grabbing a *****

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Troglodyte said:
How so?

The Trump campaign championed the release of the Epstein files.

After the election, Trumps DOJ paraded the files and Bondi bragged about how they were sitting on her desk.

Then nothing.

Then Elon and Trump have their falling out and Musk drops the bomb that Trump is in the Epstein files.

Trump started declaring that the Epstein files were a democratic hoax and any Republican supporting their release would be viewed as hostile toward the administration.

Trump reluctantly releases the files after bi-partisan pressure. They are heavily redacted and it’s met with bipartisan criticism.
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the entire time Biden was in office, not **** was done about the Epstein files.
you kept your mouth shut

Trump touts the release of the Epstein files on his campaign.
Democrats scoffed.

Pages upon pages of the Epstein files are released.
You whine that Trump isnt listed
You willfully ignore those who are

You suffer from TDS. 100%. Rob Reiner looked more partial and middle of the road.
 
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