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The emergence fo Green.

Point is that (in my opinion) Jesse James is good enough that they didn't need to spend the money on Green, especially when he missed over half the season because he wasn't ready to play.
 
Point is that (in my opinion) Jesse James is good enough that they didn't need to spend the money on Green, especially when he missed over half the season because he wasn't ready to play.

I think they loved his deep ball potential, and though Jesse was more of a possession TE.

I would have rather had a OLber brought in, but was happy they did something to try to upgrade. Because far too often they sit on those hands in regards to free agency. Or at least possible upgrades through free agency.

They aren't afraid to try a scrub and hope for something more than that.

Sometimes I think they need to bite the bullet and make one significant offseason pickup, especially in a area of obvious weakness.
 
yeah a negative effect on drives... most people I think could grasp that....


Green had no effect on Coates playing time, only person who has a effect on that is Coates.

If he performs they play him more, if he doesn't they play him little until he again produces more.

And most people who know anything about football know whether or not a deep pass is caught or not it has an effect on the defense. It may make the safety a little more hesitant in his reads or jumping an underneath route. Not that none of that is important or helps the QB on another play.
 
And most people who know anything about football know whether or not a deep pass is caught or not it has an effect on the defense. It may make the safety a little more hesitant in his reads or jumping an underneath route. Not that none of that is important or helps the QB on another play.

Exactly and when it continuously isn't caught most people with half a brain can tell the playing time was cut due to ineffectiveness. And know that a player can't be a positive influence if they don't produce.

Problem is you aren't most people.

Thanks for playing, do not pass go.
 
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It doesn't matter if it isn't caught the reason he was still playing especially after Bey was injured was because he was the only person who showed he was a threat..becausenhe could run by CBs. So it was still important he get some snaps..that's the point. The little he was still playing was for that reason. Other wise why not just let Hamilton or Rogers run those routes..as green has emerged as another playmaker his playing time has decreased.
 
It doesn't matter if it isn't caught the reason he was still playing especially after Bey was injured was because he was the only person who showed he was a threat..becausenhe could run by CBs. So it was still important he get some snaps..that's the point. The little he was still playing was for that reason. Other wise why not just let Hamilton or Rogers run those routes..as green has emerged as another playmaker his playing time has decreased.


That's what you claim, not true but yeah that's what yinz claim.

Problem is when you pull things out of your *** and start believing them. It doesn't make it any more true than when you came up with the cockamamie ideas's.


Green's playing time effects other TE's playing time.

Coated being ineffective impacts Coates playing time.

It really is a simple formula, really.

When Coates starts to perform better his playing time will increase. Regardless if Green is in there or not, that will not change.


I know you will repeat it at least a dozen more times. Maybe in your world that will somehow magically make your jibberish true.

Your boss really must love you.
 
Heck, in a few cities the TE IS the #1 receiving option. That position is growing into a dual threat option with 6'6" guys running 4.4 40s. That is a HUGE advantage to have one of those threats, and we have one.

Until Coates gets his confidence back, Green looks like our #2 receiving option.

Exactly we don't have a legit #2 right now. Healthy. IMO we need a guy at tight end who can receive AND block. If we had two Antonio browns and one heath miller wouldn't that be better than a brown, nobody and Green?

Green is our #2 option right now. Sad.
 
Question: How well can Ladarius Green make up for the deep threat void left without Sammie Coates?

Over the course of the first five games of the season—with the notable blip against the Eagles—the Steelers offense was really clicking for the most part, and a lot of that had to do with the deep component that Sammie Coates was bringing to the offense.




Over the course of the first five games, Coates caught seven passes of at least 20 yards, six of which went for at least 40 yards. That prominent vertical test really opened things up for the Steelers to do things underneath, and the offense has since lacked that presence more often than not.

Over the span of the last two games, however, a new explosive play threat has been emerging in Green. He has caught five passes for at least 20 yards in those two games, four of which went for more than 30 yards, and, already, he has the fourth-most explosive plays on record on the team, behind Antonio Brown—with 17—Coates, and Eli Rogers, who, like Coates, also has seven.

As a team, the Steelers have recorded 11 explosive plays on offense over the course of the past two games, which is tied for the most in a two-game span on the year. They actually also had 11 in the two losses to the Ravens and Cowboys. Four of those came off short passes, however, while three were on short passes in the past two games.

In spite of the fact that the offense has been spending more time emphasizing the ground game in the last three weeks, the passing game has been producing splash plays in the past two, and that is unquestionably due in large part to Green, who has five of the 11 explosive plays.

But how well is Green’s presence really simulating the impact that Coates has when he is healthy and on the field? He surely does not draw the same sort of attention running down the seam as Coates does running a nine route from the flanker position. Ideally, this is a question that will not have to be answered with the receiver’s re-emergence into the offense—but that cannot be counted upon.

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For what ever the reason, SAMMY COATES is NOT producing as he had at the start of the year. When a player isn't producing it's hard to argue who has the most presence felt durring a game. Green is definately having a presence on the field, weather more or not than Coates in his healthy stage. Remeber it is Green who is producing. BUT arguing that is senseless as the argument can be made as to who has the more dominant presence M. Bryant or S. Coates. Unless on the field, neither matter.



Salute the nation
 
For what ever the reason, SAMMY COATES is NOT producing as he had at the start of the year. When a player isn't producing it's hard to argue who has the most presence felt durring a game. Green is definately having a presence on the field, weather more or not than Coates in his healthy stage. Remeber it is Green who is producing. BUT arguing that is senseless as the argument can be made as to who has the more dominant presence M. Bryant or S. Coates. Unless on the field, neither matter.



Salute the nation

Lol I know me and slash back and forth is useless but I don't neither one of us is arguing who has more presence on the field between Coates or Green..

The back and forth was about, well at least my part was about why they continued to play Coates after his injury. I said because there was still value to the offense by having him run two or three go routes a game. We still needed someone who could make defenses respect the deep game. Whether he caught them or not. Green came in to me because his emergence has given defenses someone else to worry about lessening the need for Coates at the moment. Even though they play two different positions.
 
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