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The Duck

Hodges is doing exactly what he’s suppose to do. He’s managing the game and not forcing plays or turnovers. He’s smart with the ball and getting better. He is fun to watch. Those runs yesterday by him were exciting and adds a level that defenses need to defend. He ain’t LaMar Jackson or Kordell- but he has descent speed and quickness.
 
He’s a rookie QB. We didn’t do anything different when Ben was a rookie and went 14-1. It wasn’t because he was exactly lighting up the airways.


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Rookie or not. Read my post. We still did this even when Ben was the QB. I believe it even cost us one of the games Ben did play this year.
 
152 yards might not be impressive, but he was 16 of 19. THAT’S impressive. When given the opportunities, he delivered.

I live down here in the FL panhandle, where FSU, Florida and Alabama are the only teams that matter. A good friend, a FSU fan, said to me last week after the Cleveland game...he relayed his thoughts after Sanford almost upset FSU last year. Hodges had a mixed game passing for almost 500 yards, but throwing 4 INTs...but it was SAMFORD...vs FSU! My friend told me the whole game he just couldn’t believe the throws Duck was making. He was througholy impressed despite the INTs. He was shocked when Duck went underrated, and isn’t surprised at his early but modest success.
 
So far Ducks three starts have been against a borderline hall of famer in Rivers, last years top overall pick, and this years top overall pick... he is 3-0

His two relief stints have been against the MVP frontrunner LJ...and honestly had his second drive not ended with a suspect offensive pass interference penalty at midfield or a fumble in OT...he probably beats him too

And the 4th round rookie he beat vs Cincy

Pedigree doesn’t matter

Cards and Bungles are last and second to last in total defense, and the Cards are last in passing defense as well.
 
Cards and Bungles are last and second to last in total defense, and the Cards are last in passing defense as well.

And yet, apparently, Tomlin and Fichtner didn't feel confident enough in Hodges to let him throw downfield much. I think it is stupid. Hodges can do it. If they would just mix in a few passes on first down and take away some of the predictability, this team would be better for it.
 
In honesty Duck has better players around him. The Cardinals are horrible. They still have a 100 year old Suggs playing. Then they have a bunch of nobodies.

I wouldn't have drafted Murray anyway. He's small and will never be a great NFL QB.

On Defense I agree with you. On O, they have some good skill players, including one of the best WRs to ever play the game.
 
And yet, apparently, Tomlin and Fichtner didn't feel confident enough in Hodges to let him throw downfield much. I think it is stupid. Hodges can do it. If they would just mix in a few passes on first down and take away some of the predictability, this team would be better for it.



AGREED and if the steelers coaches feel they can bring that sort of game plan into this BILL"s game , then heaven forbid as they will get killed. Predictability plays right into a better defenses hands and our O isn't good enough to do that. I hope the game plane steps up and brings it's A-GAME.





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Hodges is doing exactly what he’s suppose to do. He’s managing the game and not forcing plays or turnovers. He’s smart with the ball and getting better. He is fun to watch. Those runs yesterday by him were exciting and adds a level that defenses need to defend. He ain’t LaMar Jackson or Kordell- but he has descent speed and quickness.

It's perfect on the job training for a new qb. We had it for years. Stout defense,good running game,qb is smart and accurate with the football. Grind them and take your shots that have the highest probability for sucess and hurt you the least if they go bad.
 
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Well it's true, Cope.
Training wheels or not - neither Hodges or Rudolph are moving the ball.

The Cards are TERRIBLE against the pass. If Hodges was going to have a good week, this was it.
 
Based on what I've seen from both, I think Hodges has a better chance of developing into a long-term starter than Rudolph.

People say Rudolph's arm is stronger, but it sure doesn't look like it to me, and Hodges just seems to be much more composed and alert.

I would not be opposed to drafting a QB in the next year, but with Ben expected to play two more years and the promise Hodges is showing, it is not an absolute priority.
 
Well it's true, Cope.
Training wheels or not - neither Hodges or Rudolph are moving the ball.

The Cards are TERRIBLE against the pass. If Hodges was going to have a good week, this was it.

Hodges averaged 8 yards per pass yesterday, which is good.

He seems to be getting the most out of what the coaches are asking him to do.

The play calling is still very conservative, especially against stacked fronts on early downs.

I would like to see what he could do if Juju ever comes back.
 
Based on what I've seen from both, I think Hodges has a better chance of developing into a long-term starter than Rudolph.

People say Rudolph's arm is stronger, but it sure doesn't look like it to me, and Hodges just seems to be much more composed and alert.

I would not be opposed to drafting a QB in the next year, but with Ben expected to play two more years and the promise Hodges is showing, it is not an absolute priority.
Doesn't really matter if his arm is stronger. It is who is more accurate and less prone to throwing it to the other team. Especially when the game is on the line. I really have no idea who will have the better career. But right now [emoji1658] looks like the more poised of the two QBs. As long quackerrooney keeps playing winning football he obviously gets the nod. See some QBs just need longer to develop. But in the Not For Long league some just don't get that wait and see luxury. Look at Tannehill he was all but written off in some fans minds. But here he is lighting it up for the ****. QB is a hard position to put a stamp on...

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**** all your dry boring stats


You are witnessing a LIVING LEGEND!




Petition Wants To Bring Back The Giant Duck In Honor Of 'Duck' Hodges


'The people of Pittsburgh demand Mayor Peduto to return the legendary Rubber Ducky'

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The petition on the website says “The people of Pittsburgh (aka Yinzers, aka Stiller Gang aka Steelers Nation) demand Mayor Peduto to return the legendary Rubber Ducky of 2013 to the Allegheny River in honor of Devlin "Duck" Hodges.

We need 100,000 signatures to show the city we mean business.”

https://kdkaradio.radio.com/articles/petition-wants-to-bring-back-the-duck-to-honor-duck
 
The world truly is ending. Spike of "5 Wide *******" fame is suggesting yards don't matter!

To me, however, numbers DO matter and, being me - I did my usual half-assed statistical dive. And you may be surprised at what it demonstrates.

Ben's rookie year, he was essentially asked not to screw up. He rarely threw more than 20 times a game. Indeed, when he did throw under 20X a game, he tended to have his BEST passing games statistically. Of course he had the Bus. And the Bus drew a lot of attention.

Ben averaged 187.2 yards a game his rookie season. He was very effective.
However, he DID make quite a few mistakes. (He threw 11 interceptions. Keep in mind however that he also played 14 or 15 games that season. More statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.7% of his throws.
he threw 17 TDs, with a TD% of 5.8
Always good for moving the ball downfield, Ben averaged 8.4 yards per attempt, and 13.4 yards per catch. (This, in his rookie year which is one of the many reasons Ben Roethlisberger is in the top 10 all time for yards per attempt and completion.)
And finally, for his rookie year, Ben put forward a 98 QB rating.

Now Mason Rudolph is interesting.

If you want to see how much the league has changed from 2004 to 2019, Ben Roethlisberger had 295 passing attempts his rookie season (Rember, 14 to 15 games.) Mason Rudolph had 263 attempts in 9 games. And we are all of the opinion that the coaches are shackling MR and DH... Interesting...

Mason averaged 181.8 yards a game. But as we have already pointed out, he's also thrown the ball a LOT more than Roethlisberger did his rookie year. Not nearly as efficient as Ben was. (Not saying anything, just showing numbers...)
Mason unfortunately had a couple really terrible games in terms of ints. (He threw 9 interceptions. Again to be statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.4% of his throws. (Actually BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he threw 12 TDs, with a TD% of 4.6 (Ironically, had he not gone into his slump and started throwing ints like they were Halloween candy, he probably would have thrown more TDs than Ben, but again, totally different atmosphere these days.)
Less of a deep[ threat (saying it nicely) Mason averaged 6.2 yards per attempt, and 10.1 yards per catch. We all know he didn't do a great job going downfield for whatever reason.
And finally, for games he's played so far this year, Mason put forward a 80.3 QB rating.

Now for the anomaly.

Of the two QBs who have played in relief of Roethlisberger this year, Hodges looks a LOT more like Ben did his rookie year. Although nobody is going to call them identical twins.

Hodges averaged 136.4 yards a game. In this era of easy passing yards, that's not good. It's actually terrible. He's only had a few games though so there is room for this to improve. (Lots of room. Cowboys Stadium room...)
Hodges is doing better than Rudolph OR Ben in terms of ints. (again, in limited action.) (He's thrown 2 interceptions. By the numbers, he wins, averaging an interception on only 2.5% of his throws. (Much BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he's thrown 4 TDs, with a TD% of 5 (Better than Rudolph, but not as good as Ben. Still, 1 in 20 throws is a TD. A guy will take that.)
One thing we can say is that Hodges has thrown it deeper than Rudolph. He's averaged 8.5 yards per attempt, and 12 yards per catch. Again, not as good as Ben, but hell yaz!
And finally, Hodges is thus far doing EXACTLY what you want a backup to do for you. He's playing very very efficiently. So far this year, Hodges put forward a 103.2 QB rating. (Yep, better than Roethlisberger by 5 points.

Of course Hodges has only 5 games where's he's even seen the field this year. His statistical pool is pretty darn shallow. However, so far he has proven to be safe, efficient and he's unarguably playing better than Rudolph. I'm sorta sorry for Mason. I think he was doing alright until he got creamed by the Ravens. After that he completely came apart in terms of reads, hesitation and crap throws. I think he's bright and physically talented but it looks like the game is too fast for him.

I don't know that the game is any slower for Hodges, but he seems comfortable just flinging the ball out there and giving the receivers a shot at it. They have been rewarding him with solid play. The Steelers NEED Hodges to be a little more effective moving the ball downfield. Particularly as they approach the most important games of the season. But there is every reason to believe that Hodges at least will (as Tomdong says) not kill us.

And because you animals need tables... (Sorry, it's down a ways...)

<table>
<tr>
<th class="tg-0lax">Player</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Yards</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPA</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPC</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Comp %</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">QBR</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">BR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">187.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">13.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">17</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">66.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">11</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.7</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">MR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">181.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">6.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">10.1</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">61.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">9</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">80.3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">DH</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">136.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">71.3</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">103.2</td>
</tr>
</table>
 
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**** stats, just give me wins. Duck played a good game and it was good enough for the win. Every game won’t be the same and he keeps improving each week IMO.


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What has impressed me most about the Duck is his confidence. He has the tools to succeed in the NFL but mostly he believes in himself and his ability. Thats a quality you can't discount and it shows every time he steps onto the field. The more he plays the better he is likely to get. Sure he'll inevitably have the stinker series or stinker game but because of his belief in himself I don't think it will adversely affect his performance long term.
 
The world truly is ending. Spike of "5 Wide *******" fame is suggesting yards don't matter!

To me, however, numbers DO matter and, being me - I did my usual half-assed statistical dive. And you may be surprised at what it demonstrates.

Ben's rookie year, he was essentially asked not to screw up. He rarely threw more than 20 times a game. Indeed, when he did throw under 20X a game, he tended to have his BEST passing games statistically. Of course he had the Bus. And the Bus drew a lot of attention.

Ben averaged 187.2 yards a game his rookie season. He was very effective.
However, he DID make quite a few mistakes. (He threw 11 interceptions. Keep in mind however that he also played 14 or 15 games that season. More statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.7% of his throws.
he threw 17 TDs, with a TD% of 5.8
Always good for moving the ball downfield, Ben averaged 8.4 yards per attempt, and 13.4 yards per catch. (This, in his rookie year which is one of the many reasons Ben Roethlisberger is in the top 10 all time for yards per attempt and completion.)
And finally, for his rookie year, Ben put forward a 98 QB rating.

Now Mason Rudolph is interesting.

If you want to see how much the league has changed from 2004 to 2019, Ben Roethlisberger had 295 passing attempts his rookie season (Rember, 14 to 15 games.) Mason Rudolph had 263 attempts in 9 games. And we are all of the opinion that the coaches are shackling MR and DH... Interesting...

Mason averaged 181.8 yards a game. But as we have already pointed out, he's also thrown the ball a LOT more than Roethlisberger did his rookie year. Not nearly as efficient as Ben was. (Not saying anything, just showing numbers...)
Mason unfortunately had a couple really terrible games in terms of ints. (He threw 9 interceptions. Again to be statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.4% of his throws. (Actually BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he threw 12 TDs, with a TD% of 4.6 (Ironically, had he not gone into his slump and started throwing ints like they were Halloween candy, he probably would have thrown more TDs than Ben, but again, totally different atmosphere these days.)
Less of a deep[ threat (saying it nicely) Mason averaged 6.2 yards per attempt, and 10.1 yards per catch. We all know he didn't do a great job going downfield for whatever reason.
And finally, for games he's played so far this year, Mason put forward a 80.3 QB rating.

Now for the anomaly.

Of the two QBs who have played in relief of Roethlisberger this year, Hodges looks a LOT more like Ben did his rookie year. Although nobody is going to call them identical twins.

Hodges averaged 136.4 yards a game. In this era of easy passing yards, that's not good. It's actually terrible. He's only had a few games though so there is room for this to improve. (Lots of room. Cowboys Stadium room...)
Hodges is doing better than Rudolph OR Ben in terms of ints. (again, in limited action.) (He's thrown 2 interceptions. By the numbers, he wins, averaging an interception on only 2.5% of his throws. (Much BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he's thrown 4 TDs, with a TD% of 5 (Better than Rudolph, but not as good as Ben. Still, 1 in 20 throws is a TD. A guy will take that.)
One thing we can say is that Hodges has thrown it deeper than Rudolph. He's averaged 8.5 yards per attempt, and 12 yards per catch. Again, not as good as Ben, but hell yaz!
And finally, Hodges is thus far doing EXACTLY what you want a backup to do for you. He's playing very very efficiently. So far this year, Hodges put forward a 103.2 QB rating. (Yep, better than Roethlisberger by 5 points.

Of course Hodges has only 5 games where's he's even seen the field this year. His statistical pool is pretty darn shallow. However, so far he has proven to be safe, efficient and he's unarguably playing better than Rudolph. I'm sorta sorry for Mason. I think he was doing alright until he got creamed by the Ravens. After that he completely came apart in terms of reads, hesitation and crap throws. I think he's bright and physically talented but it looks like the game is too fast for him.

I don't know that the game is any slower for Hodges, but he seems comfortable just flinging the ball out there and giving the receivers a shot at it. They have been rewarding him with solid play. The Steelers NEED Hodges to be a little more effective moving the ball downfield. Particularly as they approach the most important games of the season. But there is every reason to believe that Hodges at least will (as Tomdong says) not kill us.

And because you animals need tables... (Sorry, it's down a ways...)

<table>
<tr>
<th class="tg-0lax">Player</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Yards</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPA</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPC</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Comp %</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">QBR</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">BR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">187.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">13.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">17</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">66.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">11</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.7</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">MR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">181.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">6.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">10.1</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">61.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">9</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">80.3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">DH</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">136.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">71.3</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">103.2</td>
</tr>
</table>
Built into that QB rating is completion percentage. I like what I am seeing from Duck in that aspect. And also like he can extend the play with enough wheels to be able to run it or roll out and pass it.

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We don't need no stinking stats!

Just sign the damn petition!






Petition Wants To Bring Back The Giant Duck In Honor Of 'Duck' Hodges


'The people of Pittsburgh demand Mayor Peduto to return the legendary Rubber Ducky'

3-86.jpg


The petition on the website says “The people of Pittsburgh (aka Yinzers, aka Stiller Gang aka Steelers Nation) demand Mayor Peduto to return the legendary Rubber Ducky of 2013 to the Allegheny River in honor of Devlin "Duck" Hodges.

We need 100,000 signatures to show the city we mean business.”


https://kdkaradio.radio.com/articles/petition-wants-to-bring-back-the-duck-to-honor-duck
 
Hodges has averaged 165.3 yards per game as a starter. You're deflating his numbers by including the two games he entered as a backup.
 
**** stats, just give me wins. Duck played a good game and it was good enough for the win. Every game won’t be the same and he keeps improving each week IMO.


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I don’t mean this as a slam on MR but I said to the wife a couple times “Mason doesn’t make that throw”.
 
Built into that QB rating is completion percentage. I like what I am seeing from Duck in that aspect. And also like he can extend the play with enough wheels to be able to run it or roll out and pass it.

Absolutely.

And yards per attempt is another important number to look at here, as Duck's is better than Ben's at this point. Sure, Hodges is not throwing for many yards -- because they are being very conservative, but he's still maximizing his small amount of attempts.

There's something to be said for the crucial pass interference penalties which were drawn yesterday as well...and they don't show up in the stats.
 
I don’t mean this as a slam on MR but I said to the wife a couple times “Mason doesn’t make that throw”.

His cement feet would have gotten him sacked 5 times and never gotten those throws off or thrown into triple coverage, he just stinks, there, I said it
 
The world truly is ending. Spike of "5 Wide *******" fame is suggesting yards don't matter!

To me, however, numbers DO matter and, being me - I did my usual half-assed statistical dive. And you may be surprised at what it demonstrates.

Ben's rookie year, he was essentially asked not to screw up. He rarely threw more than 20 times a game. Indeed, when he did throw under 20X a game, he tended to have his BEST passing games statistically. Of course he had the Bus. And the Bus drew a lot of attention.

Ben averaged 187.2 yards a game his rookie season. He was very effective.
However, he DID make quite a few mistakes. (He threw 11 interceptions. Keep in mind however that he also played 14 or 15 games that season. More statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.7% of his throws.
he threw 17 TDs, with a TD% of 5.8
Always good for moving the ball downfield, Ben averaged 8.4 yards per attempt, and 13.4 yards per catch. (This, in his rookie year which is one of the many reasons Ben Roethlisberger is in the top 10 all time for yards per attempt and completion.)
And finally, for his rookie year, Ben put forward a 98 QB rating.

Now Mason Rudolph is interesting.

If you want to see how much the league has changed from 2004 to 2019, Ben Roethlisberger had 295 passing attempts his rookie season (Rember, 14 to 15 games.) Mason Rudolph had 263 attempts in 9 games. And we are all of the opinion that the coaches are shackling MR and DH... Interesting...

Mason averaged 181.8 yards a game. But as we have already pointed out, he's also thrown the ball a LOT more than Roethlisberger did his rookie year. Not nearly as efficient as Ben was. (Not saying anything, just showing numbers...)
Mason unfortunately had a couple really terrible games in terms of ints. (He threw 9 interceptions. Again to be statistically clear, he averaged an interception on 3.4% of his throws. (Actually BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he threw 12 TDs, with a TD% of 4.6 (Ironically, had he not gone into his slump and started throwing ints like they were Halloween candy, he probably would have thrown more TDs than Ben, but again, totally different atmosphere these days.)
Less of a deep[ threat (saying it nicely) Mason averaged 6.2 yards per attempt, and 10.1 yards per catch. We all know he didn't do a great job going downfield for whatever reason.
And finally, for games he's played so far this year, Mason put forward a 80.3 QB rating.

Now for the anomaly.

Of the two QBs who have played in relief of Roethlisberger this year, Hodges looks a LOT more like Ben did his rookie year. Although nobody is going to call them identical twins.

Hodges averaged 136.4 yards a game. In this era of easy passing yards, that's not good. It's actually terrible. He's only had a few games though so there is room for this to improve. (Lots of room. Cowboys Stadium room...)
Hodges is doing better than Rudolph OR Ben in terms of ints. (again, in limited action.) (He's thrown 2 interceptions. By the numbers, he wins, averaging an interception on only 2.5% of his throws. (Much BETTER than Roethlisberger.)
he's thrown 4 TDs, with a TD% of 5 (Better than Rudolph, but not as good as Ben. Still, 1 in 20 throws is a TD. A guy will take that.)
One thing we can say is that Hodges has thrown it deeper than Rudolph. He's averaged 8.5 yards per attempt, and 12 yards per catch. Again, not as good as Ben, but hell yaz!
And finally, Hodges is thus far doing EXACTLY what you want a backup to do for you. He's playing very very efficiently. So far this year, Hodges put forward a 103.2 QB rating. (Yep, better than Roethlisberger by 5 points.

Of course Hodges has only 5 games where's he's even seen the field this year. His statistical pool is pretty darn shallow. However, so far he has proven to be safe, efficient and he's unarguably playing better than Rudolph. I'm sorta sorry for Mason. I think he was doing alright until he got creamed by the Ravens. After that he completely came apart in terms of reads, hesitation and crap throws. I think he's bright and physically talented but it looks like the game is too fast for him.

I don't know that the game is any slower for Hodges, but he seems comfortable just flinging the ball out there and giving the receivers a shot at it. They have been rewarding him with solid play. The Steelers NEED Hodges to be a little more effective moving the ball downfield. Particularly as they approach the most important games of the season. But there is every reason to believe that Hodges at least will (as Tomdong says) not kill us.

And because you animals need tables... (Sorry, it's down a ways...)

<table>
<tr>
<th class="tg-0lax">Player</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Yards</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPA</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">YPC</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">TD%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Comp %</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">Int%</th>
<th class="tg-0lax">QBR</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">BR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">187.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">13.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">17</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">66.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">11</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.7</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">98</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">MR</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">181.8</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">6.2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">10.1</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">61.6</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">9</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">3.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">80.3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="tg-0lax">DH</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">136.4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">8.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">12</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">4</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">71.3</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">2.5</td>
<td class="tg-0lax">103.2</td>
</tr>
</table>

alot harder to throw in 2004 than now. Only two QB's that season finished with a QB rating of 100 or higher, and the highest was like 102, and the other QB was 100
 
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