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The Coronavirus thread

Italy and Spain didn't get over the peak by blind ignorance and sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending its a joke

Lockdown, lockdown lockdown for a whole month is the only thing to do

We are still weeks away from that, and the willful ignorance by some is astounding, grow a spine, use some individual discipline and
Stay the **** Home!

Did U watch it?

Did U watch it?

Don't even talk to me until U watch it

 
Talk about bending them to your needs. Where is your condemnation of the WHO of spreading false information that even Fauci used to say on 2/21 Americans shouldn’t be concerned. Trump was being optimistic Trump but he was always, if you listen to whole speeches, using the science he was being fed and always said it was serious. Every time in every speech if you listen to the whole thing which liberals never do the grab one line and ignore the rest to make up whatever bullshit they want regardless of the actual meaning and context.


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Thank you for getting right to the 'whataboutism'. For those that don't know: Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. It is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Again, I can only present facts.
 
Joined 2015 and this is your third post? 5 years of lurking to come ***** about Trump.

You do know people are on the edge of going batshit crazy even more than normal. I'd downplay it too or atleast talk in a positive light. We have enough doomsday **** from TV right now to go around for everyone.

Stop watching tv.
 
Watch Italy, they are the closest model there is to what is happening.

They show a strict lockdown and time is the only "cure". We are still weeks behind them.

Stay the **** at home!
 



Another perspective away from the hysteria. Hope the link works
 
Thank you for getting right to the 'whataboutism'. For those that don't know: Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. It is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Again, I can only present facts.

It isn't whataboutism to point out that the things he is and was saying came from experts and organizations that are supposed to the leading sources. it isn't whataboutism to point out that Nancy Pelosi was at the same time telling people to go to ******* Chinatown and party while Trump was actually doing something about it.

You are not presenting facts at all, in FACT you are spreading the worst kind of lies by using peoples words edited and taken out of context to completely change the meaning. You and your ilk do Joseph Goebbels proud. I have directly refuted and disproved your argument and all of your arguments have been factually disproven on this thread any times yet you still regurgitate known lies.

If you want to post these statements and "facts" in full we will talk but since that would destroy your argument we know you won't.
 
It isn't whataboutism to point out that the things he is and was saying came from experts and organizations that are supposed to the leading sources. it isn't whataboutism to point out that Nancy Pelosi was at the same time telling people to go to ******* Chinatown and party while Trump was actually doing something about it.

You are not presenting facts at all, in FACT you are spreading the worst kind of lies by using peoples words edited and taken out of context to completely change the meaning. You and your ilk do Joseph Goebbels proud. I have directly refuted and disproved your argument and all of your arguments have been factually disproven on this thread any times yet you still regurgitate known lies.

If you want to post these statements and "facts" in full we will talk but since that would destroy your argument we know you won't.

Again, I can only present you with the facts. You can distort them as you wish.
 
Joined 2015 and this is your third post? 5 years of lurking to come ***** about Trump.

You do know people are on the edge of going batshit crazy even more than normal. I'd downplay it too or atleast talk in a positive light. We have enough doomsday **** from TV right now to go around for everyone.

It's Elfie and it's not surprising. Elfie used multiple accounts. Not a surprise, as many times as he/she/**** has been banned that he/she/**** has many accounts. Back in 2015, he/she/**** likely created multiple accounts in the event he/she/**** was banned again. It just wasn't used and he/she/**** has revived it.

Eflie also employs the use of many and rotating IP addresses so Elfie can hide.

Elfie also pretends to be many things - hispanic, Jewish, Native American, Hindu, Honky, suffering Aspergers, a recovering cancer survivor, is gay, lesbian bi and transgender, and is also an African American.

Elfie can change he/she/****'s screen name, IP address, gender, race and history in the blink of an eye.

But Elfie cannot seem to change the way he/she/**** communicates and therefore is always immediately detected on post one.
 
It's Elfie and it's not surprising. Elfie used multiple accounts. Not a surprise, as many times as he/she/**** has been banned that he/she/**** has many accounts. Back in 2015, he/she/**** likely created multiple accounts in the event he/she/**** was banned again. It just wasn't used and he/she/**** has revived it.

Eflie also employs the use of many and rotating IP addresses so Elfie can hide.

Elfie also pretends to be many things - hispanic, Jewish, Native American, Hindu, Honky, suffering Aspergers, a recovering cancer survivor, is gay, lesbian bi and transgender, and is also an African American.

Elfie can change he/she/****'s screen name, IP address, gender, race and history in the blink of an eye.

But Elfie cannot seem to change the way he/she/**** communicates and therefore is always immediately detected on post one.

Yup. This is another of the many "in case" profile Elfie created due to the fact that he averaged a banning about every 2 weeks.
 
Somebody a little late, the party's already started



Japan to declare state of emergency over coronavirus pandemic

Tokyo (CNN)Much of Japan will enter a state of emergency Tuesday, as the country struggles to rein in the coronavirus pandemic, months after the first domestic cases were reported.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said that "basic economic activity" will continue in Tokyo, Kanagawa, Saitama, Chiba, Osaka, Hyogo and Fukuoka, the seven affected prefectures, with public transport and supermarkets remaining open, but urged people to exercise social distancing and avoid unnecessary trips.

The state of emergency, which is expected to be formally announced at a press conference Tuesday, will last for approximately one month.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/asia/japan-coronavirus-state-of-emergency-intl-hnk/index.html

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US Forces Japan commander declares public health emergency for Tokyo-area bases as virus cases surge


YOKOTA AIR BASE, Japan – The commander of U.S. Forces Japan has declared a public health emergency for U.S. military bases on the Kanto Plain in and around Tokyo.

The declaration Monday afternoon “ensures commanders possess the necessary authorities to enforce compliance health protection measures among military, civilians, and contractors who live and work on U.S. installations,” a USFJ statement said. The guidance will be in effect until at least May 5.

Lt. Gen. Kevin Schneider, USFJ commander, said in the statement that protecting the health and safety of everyone associated with USFJ is his No. 1 priority.

“I cannot underscore enough the importance of personal responsibility at a time like this,” he said. “Stopping the spread of [the coronavirus] requires the entire team – service members, civilians, families, and our Japanese partners. The virus makes no exceptions based on military or civilian status, and our policies and procedures won’t either.”

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacifi...okyo-area-bases-as-virus-cases-surge-1.625010
 
People keep praising Fauci as a God. He's slowing being exposed, day by day. Bad numbers, bad predictions, and he's waffled over recent history on his positions.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fauci, now so sour on hydroxychloroquine (+/- azithro) for covid19, despite its clinical promise, gushed in 4/2013 when a coronavirus [MERS] antiviral combo [ribavirin /interferon-alpha)] tested “only in cells in lab dishes” prevented viral replication! <a href="https://t.co/c9aN1b0nvZ">https://t.co/c9aN1b0nvZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/KBTLDUeIUW">pic.twitter.com/KBTLDUeIUW</a></p>— Andrew Bostom (@andrewbostom) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1246507236228304898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
BREAKING NEWS: MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER TO BE USED AS FIELD HOSPITAL

ORDER TO WEAR MASKS NOW IN EFFECT IN MIAMI BEACH, MUST BE WORN IN ALL ESSENTIAL SERVICES


Mask up Charlie!




(A terrible towel works well)
 
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LATEST NUMBERS: Govt. Models Overestimated Hospitalizations by 8 Times; ICU Beds by 6.4 Times; Ventilators Needed by 40.5 Times

By Jim Hoft
Published April 5, 2020 at 7:10pm
288 Comments

This is quite stunning.
The government models used to predict the extent of the coronavirus pandemic are off by huge margins in the latest coronavirus tracking numbers.
The current government predictions reported by Covid Tracking (https://covidtracking.com/data/ ) for Apr 5th show:

– All beds needed: 179,267
– ICU beds needed: 33,176
– Invasive ventilators: 26,544

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Those were the predictions.

The actual numbers as recorded at The Covid Tracking Project:

– Actual hospitalizations: 22,158
– In ICU: 5,207
– On ventilator: 656

Via Dr. Ned Nikolov:
Comparing #COVID19 Projections (https://t.co/zMKuQ4SUKg) with reported data by Covid Tracking (https://t.co/4t2dvr7NL1) for Apr 5:
– Overestimation of hospitalizations: 8 times
– Overestimation of of ICU beds needed: 6.4 times
– Overestimation of ventilators needed: 40.5 times pic.twitter.com/lIYtSPPRp8

— Ned Nikolov, Ph.D. (@NikolovScience) April 5, 2020

This is a complete failure of estimates and models.
The actual numbers show:

– Overestimation of hospitalizations: 8 times
– Overestimation of of ICU beds needed: 6.4 times
– Overestimation of ventilators needed: 40.5 times
 
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...egulations-that-stymied-trumps-virus-response

List: 30 regulations that stymied Trump's virus response

A wall of federal regulations has jammed the brakes on the Trump administration’s efforts to react swiftly to the coronavirus pandemic, prompting new calls for a full house cleaning of the hurdles as part of the next stimulus package now being developed in Congress.

A new list shows at least 30 rules and regulations have helped to slow or stop President Trump’s “war” on the virus, such as burdensome testing required of promising cures, and in some cases helped to spread it, such as bans on disposable bags that encourage repeated use of dirty reusable ones.

“Many regulations have proven to hinder or delay appropriate policy responses. Other regulations are or were making things worse than they otherwise would be. In many cases, it is now clear that these regulations were never needed, or that whatever justification they once had has been superseded,” said a new report from the Competitive Enterprise Institute shared with Secrets.

In listing regulations tying the government’s hands, the group has started a new “#NeverNeeded” campaign to kill off rules blocking the administration’s effort to slow the spread of the virus.

The 13-page report “identifies #NeverNeeded regulations lawmakers should get rid of so the private sector can do what it does best — provide people with the goods and services they need now more than ever,” said the influential group that regularly draws attention to problem regulations.

It also urges Congress and Trump to move faster on his successful effort so far to kill two old regulations for every new one implemented, and calls for a commission, similar to the base closing commission, to

The report, shown below, cites at least 30 of the biggest hurdles, key among them Food and Drug Administration demands for years of testing on promising drugs. The president, for example, has touted hydroxychloroquine in the coronavirus fight, but it hasn’t been approved yet by the FDA for antiviral use.

It also calls for the lifting of tariffs that would slow the importation of key equipment.

For consumers, CEI said that internet taxes should be eliminated as more people are forced to shop from home during stay-at-home orders.

And it called for the repeal of plastic bag bans, which force consumers to use dirty and potentially contaminated reusable bags.

Report Here: https://www.scribd.com/document/455...eaK7QoYucoc6zeD1Pk_vUW_9UH_klzimXLXzo1sVzR6R4
 
LATEST NUMBERS: Govt. Models Overestimated Hospitalizations by 8 Times; ICU Beds by 6.4 Times; Ventilators Needed by 40.5 Times

Posted yesterday but JUST as important today. Just sit back and watch as all of these numbers are walked back over the coming days and weeks.
 
Facts

11,008 deaths

368,533 cases


Boston mayor suggests overnight curfew as cases soar
 
Facts

11,008 deaths

368,533 cases


Boston mayor suggests overnight curfew as cases soar

Fact: CV19, so far, is still 1/8 as deadly as the flu two years ago which killed 80,000.

Could it get worse? It could. Given it's showing signs of tailing off in other countries where it hit before the USA, I don't believe it will.

You saw how Birx and Fauci are backing off of the fear, doom and gloom #s they gave that you were parroting. Their source (IMHE) is cutting their numbers in half. Every few days they back them down again.

Not enough ventilators!!!!!!!!
Not enough Beds!!!!!!!!!

Plenty to go around now. Weird, eh?
 
Posted yesterday but JUST as important today. Just sit back and watch as all of these numbers are walked back over the coming days and weeks.

Experts will ALWAYS give the highest numbers on purpose. They want to give you the worst case scenario and then walk it back if necessary, rather than go low and have people get blindsided and ravaged by something they didn't expect. I don't think there is anything political or devious about it. It's just how it is and it's the right thing to do from a safety standpoint. I don't think this "exposes" them in any way. It was by design. There is absolutely no way to accurately pinpoint what is going to happen with an epidemic that nobody has ever seen before so you give the worst case scenario and make sure people take precautions.
 
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Facts

11,008 deaths

368,533 cases


Boston mayor suggests overnight curfew as cases soar

There could well be over 1.5 million cases of the virus as most people with mild symptoms are being sent home without even testing. There is no way to say for certain what the mortality rate is because nobody knows how many people are/were actually infected.
 
I am still waiting for you to present one single actual fact.

I've presented you with facts, and you've chosen to ignore them. That's ok as facts aren't for everyone.....Wait until the discussion turns to man-made climate change and i show you what NASA, NOAA and the Trump administration had to say on the topic (Spoiler: man is causing climate change).
 
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