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The Coronavirus thread

Hope you’re OK. Did she test positive or still awaiting results?

Thoughts and prayers go out to Spike’s family as his head just exploded.

Still awaiting results. She lives in Punxsutawney, so they have to send the test away. 3-4 day turn around. Lots of **** going around right now, so I hope it is something else. I was quarantined as a precaution. I feel 100% fine.
 
I feel your pain. My girlfriend's kids (20 and 16) are here and every ************* door in the house has been opened every five ******* minutes, then shut, then opened again. Mix and repeat every (seemingly) 10 seconds. Along with the noise from them laughing/screaming at whichever game they're playing, then opening/shutting every ******* door in the house every five ******* minutes, i'm about to lose my ****.

My office was told we are to work from home this week, and possibly next. Likely will be WFH next week.

I've never wanted to go TO the office so ******* badly.

The ****** thing is, if this girl tests positive, I will be responsible for shutting down two companies (AMCOM, TACOM) on Fort Drum, not to mention the 80 or so Soldiers I interacted with this week and all the people they interacted with. This could really, really suck for a lot of people.
 
Still awaiting results. She lives in Punxsutawney, so they have to send the test away. 3-4 day turn around. Lots of **** going around right now, so I hope it is something else. I was quarantined as a precaution. I feel 100% fine.

As of a couple days ago, only 1/9 tests in PA had tested positive for COVID-19.
 
as the originator of the "Suck a Glock" phrase on this board, I find it offensive that my beautifully coined phrase would be sullied by such a tragic mess. That phrase was intended for Hank the Tank, used then and only then. And for good reason.

Spike was getting more and more bizarre. His posts were increasingly outlandish and hopefully when he comes back he'll have turned his **** down some.

We don't need the panic. Nor do we need to be calling for the deaths of other board members' families. His "dark humor" wasn't "dark humor".

I'm just a FNG here, but I've been banned at least 6X at Scout mostly for being critical of Tomlin especially after the Jags loss. Now I'm just the village idiot over there for questioning why Tom Hanks would bring a Corona typewriter with him to Australia and mention 201 in his recent IG post.

One change that will come out of all this is that we'll all be better able to put up with Tomlin's inept coaching because the stakes are so small.
 
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Someone asked about the malaria Drug. It was the main point of Trumps speech today. That and another drug going through clinical trials and major changes to the major changes to the compassionate use regulations allowing freer access to new treatments and rugs for those at the end of there options. That is great news! Also good news on vaccines but those are still away off, we should see them using the older hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. Most side effects are well known as it has been around since the 40's.
 
My office was told we are to work from home this week, and possibly next. Likely will be WFH next week.

I've never wanted to go TO the office so ******* badly.

I feel bad being the one to tell you this, Supe, but I am reasonably confident that you are the only person in your office told to work from home. Your co-workers are enjoying the respite immensely.

Okay, that's obviously bullshit. I don't feel bad for telling you that.
 
Looks like more and more people have had enough with the corona panic and the lying imbeciles propagating the panic.

Former [Obama] FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate walks off MSNBC:

“I don't have time to listen to bullsh*t people."


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Bravo Dr. Paul

Rand Paul raises hell on Senate floor…

“We should never forget fiscal responsibility, even in a crisis. My amendment seeks to offset the new spending by making numerous cuts in less important areas.”


WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today on the U.S. Senate floor, U.S. Senator and physician Rand Paul (R-KY) spoke on his amendment to the U.S. House-passed coronavirus response bill to offset the new funding, prioritizing spending in this emergency rather than funding endless wars or paying for frivolous programs overseas.

In his speech, Dr. Paul noted that “next time, maybe in the not-too-distant future, our children may not even be able to borrow their way out of a crisis” because of Congress’ massive, unbalanced spending.

“All because we refused to do what we were elected to do, which is to prioritize the truly vital, such as coronavirus relief and medical research, over the extraneous, such as spending money on clown colleges, gas stations, and roads in Afghanistan,” Dr. Paul stated.

Dr. Paul’s amendment sought to offset the new spending by making numerous cuts, including the following:

– Making permanent a law requiring a Social Security number to claim the child tax credit.

– Giving the president the authority to transfer existing money to pay for the programs in the bill.

– Ending the war in Afghanistan, with a total secession of operation by the end of the year.

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Boom! Should have been done long ago, but some administrations found it A-OK to ship our manufacturing overseas. Let's hope this gains traction.

Cotton, Gallagher Introduce Bill to End U.S. Dependence on Chinese-Manufactured Pharmaceuticals

Washington, D.C. - Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) and Congressman Mike Gallagher (R-Wisconsin) will tomorrow introduce the Protecting our Pharmaceutical Supply Chain from China Act, which would end U.S. dependence on China for pharmaceutical manufacturing. The bill's key restrictions would go into effect in 2022 and have no impact on the current coronavirus pandemic. No FDA resources will be diverted to begin implementation. Specifically, the bill will:

  1. Track active pharmaceutical ingredients through an FDA registry.
  2. Prohibit pharmaceutical purchases from China or products with active pharmaceutical ingredients created in China*.
  3. Create transparency in the supply chain by instituting a country of origin label of all imported drugs.
  4. Provide economic incentives for manufacturing drugs and medical equipment in the United States.


"The Chinese Communist Party has threatened to cut off America's access to vital drugs in the midst of a pandemic caused by its own failures. It's time to pull America's supply chains for life-saving medicine out of China and make the CCP pay for contributing to this global emergency," said Cotton.

"The Chinese Communist Party's outrageous threats to withhold lifesaving drugs from the U.S. endangers public health and should open our eyes to our dangerous over-reliance on China in our medical supply chain," said Gallagher. "This is a national security imperative that to many Americans, is a matter of life and death. It's past time for us to develop an aggressive plan to move critical pharmaceutical supply chains away from China."

Click here for a one-pager on the bill.

* This requirement will be phased in over two years. The FDA may issue waivers if the active pharmaceutical ingredients are only available in China, however, no waivers may be issued after 2024.
 
as the originator of the "Suck a Glock" phrase on this board, I find it offensive that my beautifully coined phrase would be sullied by such a tragic mess. That phrase was intended for Hank the Tank, used then and only then. And for good reason.

Spike was getting more and more bizarre. His posts were increasingly outlandish and hopefully when he comes back he'll have turned his **** down some.

We don't need the panic. Nor do we need to be calling for the deaths of other board members' families. His "dark humor" wasn't "dark humor".

We have to face facts... Elfie finally snapped, hunted him down, and is currently wearing his skin posting on here...
 
Amazing. Viva la Capitlaism!

Historic $1.3 billion — and growing — raised to fight virus

The corporate world has coughed up a record $1.3 billion to help fight the coronavirus pandemic, most coming from the United States and China.

The total is some three to four times what philanthropies chipped in to fight Ebola and help in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey in 2017.

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Candid, which charts global giving, said in an update, “China and the United States, which accounted for 84% of pledges and 97% of dollar value, now make up 80% of pledges and 90% of dollar value.”

U.S. donors include the Gates Foundation. Chinese donors included Alibaba and founder Jack Ma.

New to the list are several South Korean firms, including Samsung and Hyundai Motor Company.
 
As if this wasn't telegraphed from a million miles away.

Democrat Dark Money Groups To Spend Millions Politicizing Wuhan Flu

A network of Democratic non-profits and super PACs are funneling millions of dollars toward advertisements in key swing states, with the intent of politicizing the Wuhan coronavirus crisis and blaming the pandemic on President Donald Trump.

The Washington Post reported the group Pacronym is planning to spend $5 million on ads attacking Trump’s response to the pandemic. Pacronym, whose board of directors includes former Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe, said its ads will target key 2020 swing states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Arizona.

Pacronym is the political action committee affiliated with Acronym, the non-profit who also funded Shadow, Inc., the company responsible for the failed Iowa caucuses reporting app. Acronym is financed by a larger democratic dark money group, New Venture Fund.

In 2018, the New Venture Fund gave at least $250,000 to Acronym, Acronym’s 2018 990 IRS forms show. New Venture Fund is just one of the dark money nonprofit funds under the umbrella of the for-profit, privately held consultancy called Arabella Advisors, LLC.

Another Democratic PAC called American Bridge said they will also be running similar ads politicizing the pandemic in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. American Bridge told the Washington Post it would be placing an additional ad on “Trump’s incompetence,” including “clips of Trump himself downplaying the crisis.”

American Bridge also receives funding from the New Venture Fund, as well as another one of Arabella’s non-profit groups, Sixteen Thirty Fund. Both non-profits share an address and interlocking officers with the for-profit Arabella. In 2018, Politico reported that the Sixteen Thirty Fund “funneled millions of dollars to progressive causes” by setting up a secret-money network of other groups, which were the “most prolific political advertisers of 2018” when combined.

Now, Arabella is sending funds down through its spider web of nonprofits to politicize a time of fear and instability before the 2020 election.

“Crises like this one should be a time for national unity, and instead, this large left-wing dark money group is taking advantage of the coronavirus to score cheap political points against the president,” Adam Laxalt, outside counsel of Americans For Public Trust, told The Federalist.

Laxalt said that while the White House is busy trying to secure financial support for Americans and small businesses, these Democrat groups are secretly spending millions of dollars in political campaigns.

“It’s beyond the pale,” he said. “There is plenty of time for politics down the road, but now is the time to focus on coming together.”

Tara McGowan, the founder and chief executive of Acronym, told The Washington Post her group’s PAC plans to spend $2.5 million through the end of April in the first wave of coronavirus-related advertising, and ultimately expects to total $5 million through July.

The group has already cut ads attacking Trump for cutting funding to the Centers for Disease control and disbanding the White House’s pandemic response team, a Democratic talking point that has been repeatedly debunked by the Associated Press and the former director for counterproliferation and biodefense. They have also run a handful of ads critiquing Trump for the slow pace of testing for the novel virus.

Protect Our Care is another PAC funded by the New Venture Fund, thus in Arabella’s web. Protect Our Care’s president, Brad Woodhouse, is also president of American Bridge. Protect Our Care was using the national crisis in an attack ad against Republican Sen. Steve Daines as early as March 11, in attempt connect the Wuhan virus that is less than three months old to the Affordable Care Act.

The Capital Research Center reports that between 2013 and 2017, the Arabella network received a whopping $1.6 billion in contributions. While the source of their funding remains unknown, it’s clear they are willing to stop at nothing to attack Trump, even if it means politicizing the growing fears, illnesses, and deaths of American citizens.
 
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Looks like the gumbment has confiscated all the hydroxychloroquine. All of the sudden none of my distributors have any in stock, and we have a few patients that take it twice daily. This should be fun.....
 
Looks like the gumbment has confiscated all the hydroxychloroquine. All of the sudden none of my distributors have any in stock, and we have a few patients that take it twice daily. This should be fun.....

Could be one of the wholesalers larger accounts bought it all, wouldn't be the first time.
 
This is from a cousin of mine who is pretty down to earth. Her mother is a retired hospital Admin and nurse with lots of contacts. IF big IF this is true it would explain the response.


Shared from a surgeon friend of mine:

I am a surgeon and critical care physician. I rarely post—and almost never post about medical related issues. This is different. I would STRONGLY recommend everyone take 5 minutes and read this. Don’t panic, but please be smart and follow the guidelines.

“We can now read the report on COVID-19 that so terrified every public health manager and head of state from Boris Johnson to Donald Trump to the dictator of El Salvador that they ordered people to stay in their houses. I read it yesterday afternoon and haven't been the same since. I urge everyone to read it, but maybe have a drink first, or have your family around you. It is absolutely terrifying. The New York TImes confirms that the CDC and global leaders are treating it as factual.

Here's a brief rundown of what I'm seeing in here. Please correct me in comments if I'm wrong.

The COVID-19 response team at Imperial College in London obtained what appears to be the first accurate dataset of infection and death rates from China, Korea, and Italy. They plugged those numbers into widely available epidemic modeling software and ran a simulation: what would happen if the United States did absolutely nothing -- if we treated COVID-19 like the flu, went about business as usual, and let the virus take its course?

Here's what would happen: 80% of Americans would get the disease. 0.9% of them would die. Between 4 and 8 percent of all Americans over the age of 70 would die. 2.2 million Americans would die from the virus itself.

It gets worse. Most people who are in danger of dying from COVID-19 need to be put on ventilators. 50% of those put on ventilators still die, but the other 50% live. But in an unmitigated epidemic, the need for ventilators would be 30 times the number of ventilators in the United States. Virtually no one who needed a ventilator would get one. 100% of patients who need ventilators would die if they didn't get one. So the actual death toll from the virus would be closer to 4 million Americans -- in a span of 3 months. 8-15% of all Americans over 70 would die.

How many people is 4 million Americans? It's more Americans than have died all at once from anything, ever. It's the population of Los Angeles. It's four times the number of Americans who died in the Civil War...on both sides combined. It's two-thirds as many people as died in the Holocaust.

Americans make up 4.4% of the world's population. So if we simply extrapolate these numbers to the rest of the world -- now we're getting into really fuzzy estimates, so the margin of error is pretty great here -- this gives us 90 million deaths globally from COVID-19. That's 15 Holocausts. That's 1.5 times as many people as died in World War II, over 12 years. This would take 3-6 months.

Now, it's unrealistic to assume that countries wouldn't do ANYTHING to fight the virus once people started dying. So the Imperial College team ran the numbers again, this time assuming a "mitigation" strategy. A mitigation strategy is pretty much what common sense would tell us to do: America places all symptomatic cases of the disease in isolation. It quarantines their families for 14 days. It orders all Americans over 70 to practice social distancing. This is what you've seen a lot of people talking about when they say we should "flatten the curve": try to slow the spread of the disease to the people most likely to die from it, to avoid overwhelming hospitals.

And it does flatten the curve -- but not nearly enough. The death rate from the disease is cut in half, but it still kills 1.1 million Americans all by itself. The peak need for ventilators falls by two-thirds, but it still exceeds the number of ventilators in the US by eight times, meaning most people who need ventilators still don't get them. That leaves the actual death toll in the US at right around 2 million deaths. The population of Houston. Two civil wars. One-third of the Holocaust. Globally, 45 million people die: 7.5 Holocausts, 3/4 of World War II. That's what happens if we use common sense: the worst death toll from a single cause since the Middle Ages.

Finally, the Imperial College team ran the numbers a third time, this time assuming a "suppression" strategy. In addition to isolating symptomatic cases and quarantining their family members, they also simulated social distancing for the entire population. All public gatherings and most workplaces shut down. Schools and universities close. (Note that these simulations assumed a realistic rate of adherence to these requirements, around 70-75% adherence, not that everyone follows them perfectly.) This is basically what we are seeing happen in the United States today.

This time it works! The death rate in the US peaks three weeks from now at a few thousand deaths, then goes down. We hit, but don't exceed (at least not by very much), the number of available ventilators. The nightmarish death tolls from the rest of the study disappear; COVID-19 goes down in the books as a bad flu instead of the Black Death.

But here's the catch: if we EVER relax these requirements before a vaccine is administered to the entire population, COVID-19 comes right back and kills millions of Americans in a few months, the same as before. The simulation does indicate that, after the first suppression period (lasting from now until July), we could probably lift restrictions for a month, followed by two more months of suppression, in a repeating pattern without triggering an outbreak or overwhelming the ventilator supply. If we staggered these suppression breaks based on local conditions, we might be able to do a bit better. But we simply cannot ever allow the virus to spread throughout the entire population in the way other viruses do, because it is just too deadly. If lots of people we know end up getting COVID-19, it means millions of Americans are dying. It simply can't be allowed to happen.

How quickly will a vaccine be here? Already, medical ethics have been pushed to the limit to deliver one. COVID-19 was first discovered a few months ago. Last week, three separate research teams announced they had developed vaccines. Yesterday, one of them (with FDA approval) injected its vaccine into a live person, without waiting for animal testing. Now, though, they have to monitor the test subject for fourteen months to make sure the vaccine is safe. This is the part of the testing that can't be rushed: the plan is to inoculate the entire human population, so if the vaccine itself turned out to be lethal for some reason, it could potentially kill all humans, which is a lot worse than 90 million deaths. Assuming the vaccine is safe and effective, it will still take several months to produce enough to inoculate the global population. For this reason, the Imperial College team estimated it will be about 18 months until the vaccine is available.

During those 18 months, things are going to be very difficult and very scary. Our economy and our society will be disrupted in profound ways. Worst of all, if the suppression policies actually work, it will feel like we are doing all this for nothing, because the infection and death rates will be very low. It's easy to get people to come together in common sacrifice in the middle of a war. It's very hard to get them to do so in a pandemic that looks invisible precisely because suppression methods are working. But that's exactly what we're going to have to do.”


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Could be one of the wholesalers larger accounts bought it all, wouldn't be the first time.

If that is the case, the government should track the sale and take it all back. It should be distributed on an as-needed basis.

I just can't wait for all these new scripts from people with doctor friends or relatives who suddenly now need it......

I remember working during H1N1 craze, some chick called in pretending to be from her out of state (doctor) father's office, calling in a prescription for "TamiBirdFlu".

"So you work in his office?"

"Oh, yeah."

Hoarders are funny.
 
Probably part of the war powers act enactment. Prioritizing the distribution.

I think this is the case. Wholesalers try to steer the sale of certain manufacturers by keeping their price low, while raises other generic brands well beyond the point of profitability (at least until they clear their inventory of the brand they want to sell first). Highly unlikely someone swooped in and bought ALL the stock, even the stock that was priced 300x higher than the lowest priced brands. All brands, from all distributors, large and small, gone. Overnight.


This has got CIA written all over it. (j/k, j/k)
 
They were probably asked to freeze sales until it can be determined how effective it actually is. Then a distribution policy would probably be put in place if it actually works as hoped.
 
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