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We are getting ready to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of FIFTEEN DAYS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE.

This Is a virus that has a 99.7% chance of not killing you.

The Wuhan virus is not a naturally occurring virus it is an engineered variant of the common cold.

The Wuhan virus was going to go around the world the instant just got out of that lab in Wuhan China because viruses spread virally.

Whether they did this on purpose or not china covered the virus up for many months and the whole world should be crushing the life out of China economically right now.

I have had this virus. It is not the world ending plague and it is not something we should allow politicians to enslave us with.
 

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I agree DBS. I'm amazed that China hasn't received more backlash from this. I don't think this was some big accident. Maybe it wasn't meant to infect the world, but there was some fishy **** with the whole deal, and China needs to be held accountable.
 

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I agree DBS. I'm amazed that China hasn't received more backlash from this. I don't think this was some big accident. Maybe it wasn't meant to infect the world, but there was some fishy **** with the whole deal, and China needs to be held accountable.

The problem is that China manufactures literally everything, and with Joe and the Dims in control this will only escalate, if that's possible.
 

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The problem is that China manufactures literally everything, and with Joe and the Dims in control this will only escalate, if that's possible.

You are exactly right. We will now reward them and spend more money while sending more manufacturing to them. Especially if they get this $15 minimum wage.
It makes me sick.
 

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obviously not China China, but China.

https://news.yahoo.com/faulty-masks-flawed-tests-chinas-171818787.html

Faulty masks. Flawed tests. China's quality control problem in leading global COVID-19 fight
Alice Su
April 10, 2020


The COVID-19 pandemic has ignited a worldwide scramble for medical gear: masks, gowns, ventilators, testing kits, much of it made in China, which is attempting to recast its image as the source of the virus to the leader in the fight against it.

But that narrative is threatened by a major problem: quality control.

A growing list of foreign complaints about faulty medical gear and testing kits imported from China has upset Beijing's designs. Within the last few weeks, scientists and health authorities in Spain, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Turkey and Britain have complained of faulty antigen or antibody coronavirus tests purchased from Chinese companies — in some cases, costing these governments millions of dollars.

Georgia has canceled a contract with the Chinese company that sent flawed test kits to Spain, and Malaysia has opted to buy testing kits from South Korea instead of China because of the Chinese tests’ reported low accuracy rate.

Last week, the Netherlands asked to return 600,000 face masks purchased from China that had inadequate filters and fit incorrectly. On Tuesday, Finland tested a shipment of personal protective equipment, or PPE, from China and found the items unsuitable for hospital use. Australian border officials have also reportedly seized 800,000 faulty or counterfeit masks from China.

The problem is worse at home. On March 12, officials at a State Council news briefing announced that authorities had seized more than 80 million counterfeit or faulty masks and 370,000 defective or fake disinfectants and other anti-coronavirus products in the prior month alone.

In some cases, defective masks have been reported after buyers purchase them online as a donation to Wuhan and other cities, only for medical staff to discover they can’t use them. China is trying to rein in its subpar PPE manufacturers. Authorities have detained dozens of counterfeiters and threatened those producing poor quality medical products with life imprisonment.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ed-china-dont-meet-standards-ecri/5806327002/

Up to 70% of KN95 masks imported from China don't meet filtration standards, study says
Adrianna Rodriguez
USA TODAY

A shortage of N95 masks forced hospitals to find alternatives to protect health care workers tending COVID-19 patients. Cue the KN95 mask.

As its name advertises, the KN95 mask is meant to filter out 95% of aerosol particles. However, nonprofit patient safety organization ECRI issued a high-priority hazard alert against these masks after an analysis found that up to 70% of KN95 masks imported from China did not meet these filtration standards.

U.S. hospitals purchased hundreds of thousands of KN95 masks produced in China over the past six months.

“We’re finding that many aren’t safe and effective against the spread of COVID-19,” said Dr. Marcus Schabacker, ECRI’s president and chief executive office. “Using masks that don’t meet U.S. standards puts patients and front-line health care workers at risk of infections.”

ECRI tested nearly 200 masks from 15 different manufacturer models purchased by some of the largest health systems in the country. Schabacker said there was not only variability among the different brands but also inconsistencies among masks made by the same manufacturer.

“We are concerned about the safety of health care workers and patients when using KN95s in high-risk procedures, and that’s why we sent out the hazard alert,” he said. “We don’t use this lightly; we reserve that for immediate risk.”

In April, the Food and Drug Administration issued an umbrella emergency use authorization for masks that are manufactured in China and not approved by the National Institutes of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). The agency reissued the order in June.

Besides the filtration concerns, public health experts criticized KN95 masks for their inability to create a tight seal on someone’s face. N95 masks have head and neck straps; KN95s have ear loops.

“What’s important to realize is that it’s the tight-fitting seal on your face that gives the N95 superior protection, other than the actual high-quality filtering properties of the mask itself,” said Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.

Schabacker said the ECRI analysis controlled for the KN95's inferior ear loops by taking them off and creating a seal when testing the models. This means that even if the KN95 mask had head and neck straps, it still wouldn’t protect health care workers to the degree that an N95 mask would.


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https://www.theblaze.com/news/nbc-p...t-chinese-tests-dont-work-masks-are-defective

NBC praised China for its medical supplies. Turns out, Chinese COVID-19 tests don't work, masks are defective.
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NBC declared: 'As U.S. struggles to stem coronavirus, China asserts itself as global leader'
CHRIS ENLOE
March 29, 2020

NBC News showered praise on China last week for shipping medical supplies and coronavirus test kits to countries now grappling with the coronavirus pandemic.

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"As U.S. struggles to stem coronavirus, China asserts itself as global leader," an NBC News headline blasted.

The story said:

With Italy in dire need of medical equipment, an economic superpower stepped in to help. No, not the United States. It was China.
But as it turns out, the majority of COVID-19 test kits and N95-like masks manufactured in China and shipped to countries in dire need are defective.

The Netherlands announced on Saturday that they were recalling more than 1 million defective Chinese-made masks, which were nearly deployed to the Dutch medical workforce.

China sent the Netherlands 1.3 million N95-type face masks. All of them are recalled, Dutch health ministry announc… https://t.co/CvpGMTwxzr
— Stuart Lau (@Stuart Lau)1585431513.0
Meanwhile, both Spain and the Czech Republic, which purchased rapid COVID-19 test kits from a Chinese bio company, found that few of the tests actually detected the virus.

The Washington Free Beacon reported:

In Spain, which currently has the fourth-highest number of coronavirus cases in the world, the government purchased 640,000 rapid test kits from China and South Korea as it fights the pandemic. Experts soon discovered, however, that the tests it purchased from Chinese company Bioeasy were only correctly identifying coronavirus cases 30 percent of the time, according to Spain's El Pais.

The Czech Republic also purchased 150,000 rapid test kits from China, and have likewise found problems. One doctor using the tests found that 80 percent of the kits were faulty and has reverted back to the conventional lab tests, which are significantly slower to process.
Turkey and the country of Georgia also had similar issues with the Chinese test kits, according to the Daily Beast.

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So we have had plenty of examples of the **** China exports. And we still get this **** from them. Will President Xiden do something? likely not.

https://visiontimes.com/2021/02/11/...its-from-china-sent-to-the-united-states.html
Counterfeit Masks and Test Kits from China sent to the United States

By
Steven Li
February 11, 2021

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seized a significant number of counterfeit, unapproved, and substandard products related to COVID-19 during Fiscal Year (FY) 2020 from October 2019 to September 2020, which threaten the “health and safety of American consumers.”

According to a CBP report released this month, COVID-19 has profoundly affected the U.S. economy. Trade volume, specifically entry summary volume, decreased by eight percent in FY2020 compared to the previous year.

CBP seized 177,356 COVID-19 test kits prohibited by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 378 incidents, 12,709,390 counterfeit face masks in 352 incidents, and 38,098 FDA-prohibited chloroquine tablets in 221 incidents. Approximately 51% of seizures originated in China, with 53% of the overall seizures in express consignment environments. And 24% was from incoming mail. Collaboration between CBP and partner government agencies facilitated faster customs clearance processes and interception of more fraudulent materials.

Frequent counterfeit mask incidents
Before Christmas in 2020, 10,080 counterfeit surgical masks from China were seized in Cincinnati, Ohio, a recurrent theme throughout the year. Twenty-one shipping boxes labeled “3 Mask Model 1860,” with packaging that advertised “protection against communicable respiratory diseases.” The provided shipment information did not pass the 3M SafeGuard product authentication process.

The boxes were mislabeled as originating in the U.S. even though they came from a consumer electronics company in Shenzhen, China. The masks, which were addressed to a sales company in Union City, California, would have had a total manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP) of $65,520 if they were genuine.

According to CBP, “Counterfeit products are not subjected to the same rigorous quality control standards as the genuine products, and that can be disastrous when innocent citizens expect a product to perform as advertised.” Cincinnati Port Director Richard Gillespie stated, “Our officers are not only protecting the integrity of the American economy through trademark enforcement, they are preventing potentially dangerous and faulty masks from being distributed to our frontline medical personnel. This underscores how counterfeiters completely disregard the human lives while padding their bank accounts.”

Another incident occurred in September 2020, when customs officials halted a shipment of 500,000 counterfeit N95 masks worth an estimated $474,905, if genuine. These masks originated from Shenzhen, China, and were addressed to a company in Manalapan, New Jersey. On December 6, 2020, counterfeit masks from Hong Kong arrived in the U.S., and a total of 6,080 3M masks were seized in freight by Cincinnati customs officials.

Intellectual property rights and forced labor violations
China is also one of the top sources of intellectual property rights (IPR) violations, with a decline of China imports resulting in an overall decrease in IPR seizures in FY2020 compared to FY2019.

Still, by the end of FY 2020, CBP was enforcing 18,757 active recorded copyrights and trademarks and seized 26,503 shipments with IPR violations. If assumed to be genuine products, the estimated total MSRP of the items would be over $1.3 billion. By partnering with industry members, other federal agencies, and foreign governments, CBP has been able to “fight cross-border trade of harmful and dangerous illicit goods.”

In FY2020, the CBP issued a $575,000 penalty to a U.S. company for importing stevia sweetener products made by forced prison labor in China. This was CBP’s first civil penalty for forced labor violations, which highlights the agency’s “commitment to identifying and preventing products made by forced labor from entering the U.S.” The agency is currently enforcing 44 active withhold release orders and seven active findings, with a record 13 new withhold release orders issued in FY2020. The value of detained cargo associated with the orders, including disposable gloves, seafood, and cotton, increased from $1.4 million to almost $50 million in FY2020. The majority of these items originated in China, with others coming from Malaysia and Malawi.




Flatten the curve with **** that doesnt work! then blame OrangeMan!
 

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https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo...tfv_bmv3Wt-m1DmeDhXhCqRYJ8wXOCthSKjk5Gvquj4s4
Cuomo aide admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out
By Bernadette Hogan, Carl Campanile and Bruce GoldingFebruary 11, 2021 | 6:51pm | Updated
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Governor Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.

The stunning admission of a cover-up was made by Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meeting.

“He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”

In addition to attacking Cuomo’s fellow Democratic governors, DeRosa said, Trump “directs the Department of Justice to do an investigation into us.”

“And basically, we froze,” she told the lawmakers on the call.

“Because then we were in a position where we weren’t sure if what we were going to give to the Department of Justice, or what we give to you guys, what we start saying, was going to be used against us while we weren’t sure if there was going to be an investigation.”

DeRosa added: “That played a very large role into this.”

After dropping the bombshell, DeRosa asked for “a little bit of appreciation of the context” and offered what appears to be the Cuomo administration’s first apology for its handling of nursing homes amid the pandemic.

But instead of a mea culpa to the grieving family members of more than 13,000 dead seniors or the critics who say the Health Department spread COVID-19 in the care facilities with a March 25 state Health Department directive that nursing homes admit infected patients, DeRosa tried to make amends with the fellow Democrats for the political inconvenience it caused them.

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COVID-19 deaths in NY nursing homes were 50 percent higher than claimed: probe
“So we do apologize,” she said. “I do understand the position that you were put in. I know that it is not fair. It was not our intention to put you in that political position with the Republicans.”

Assembly Health Committee Chairman Richard Gottfried (D-Manhattan) immediately rejected DeRosa’s expression of remorse, according to the recording.

“I don’t have enough time today to explain all the reasons why I don’t give that any credit at all,” said Gottfried, one of the lawmakers who demanded the death-toll data in August.

State Senate Aging Committee Chairwoman Rachel May (D-Syracuse) — who was battered during her re-election bid last year over the issue of nursing-home deaths — also ripped into DeRosa, saying her former opponent had launched another broadside earlier in the day.

“And the issue for me, the biggest issue of all is feeling like I needed to defend — or at least not attack — an administration that was appearing to be covering something up,” she said.

“And in a, in a pandemic, when you want the public to trust the public-health officials, and there is this clear feeling that they’re not coming, being forthcoming with you, that is really hard and it remains difficult.”

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Melissa DeRosa privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19.
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Assemblyman Ron Kim (D-Queens), who took part in the call, told The Post on Thursday that DeRosa’s remarks sounded “like they admitted that they were trying to dodge having any incriminating evidence that might put the administration or the [Health Department] in further trouble with the Department of Justice.”

“That’s how I understand their reasoning of why they were unable to share, in real time, the data,” Kim said.

“They had to first make sure that the state was protected against federal investigation.”

Kim, whose uncle is presumed to have died of COVID-19 in a nursing home in April, also said he wasn’t satisfied with DeRosa’s apology.

“It’s not enough how contrite they are with us,” he said. “They need to show that to the public and the families — and they haven’t done that.”

In addition to stonewalling lawmakers on the the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19, Cuomo’s administration also refused requests from the news media — including The Post — and fought a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by the Empire Center on Public Policy.

Instead, it only disclosed data on the numbers of residents who died in their nursing homes.

But after Attorney General Letitia James last month released a damning report that estimated the deaths of nursing-home residents in hospitals would boost the grim tally by more than 50 percent, Health Commissioner Howard Zucker finally released figures showing the combined total was 12,743 as of Jan. 19.

Just a day earlier, the DOH was only publicly acknowledging 8,711 deaths in nursing homes.

In a Wednesday letter to lawmakers, Zucker said the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19 had increased to 13,297 That number jumps to 15,049 when assisted living/adult care facilities are factored in.

The controversy generated by James’ report led to an infamous news conference at which Cuomo callously dismissed the matter of where nursing home fatalities actually took place.

“Who cares [if they] died in the hospital, died in a nursing home? They died,” he said.

During Wednesday’s conference call, DeRosa said it appeared the DOJ was no longer focused on New York’s nursing home deaths.

“All signs point to they are not looking at this, they’ve dropped it,” she said.

“They never formally opened an investigation. They sent a letter asking a number of questions and then we satisfied those questions and it appears that they’re gone.”

In a prepared statement, Cuomo spokesman Rich Azzopardi said, “We explained that the Trump administration was in the midst of a politically motivated effort to blame democratic states for COVID deaths and that we were cooperating with Federal document productions and that was the priority and now that it is over we can address the state legislature.”

“That said, we were working simultaneously to complete the audit of information they were asking for,” he added.

The DOJ declined to comment.
 

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I was at my favorite restaurant in the Detroit area on Wednesday night. Michigan is supposed to be at only 25% capacity. Anyone with half a brain knows that a restaurant will lose a shitload of money running at 25%. Well, this place was about 75% full. They said "**** you, Gretchen, you *****." I loved it.
 

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I'm just waiting for Tibs, Flogged, 21 to comment on Cuomo and team intentionally falsifying numbers and ******* with people's lives while using policies to kill innocent elderly victims. Crickets...even after this bombshell admission by his aide that they INTENTIONALLY ****** with the numbers and lied to us all.

Tick...tock....
 

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I was at my favorite restaurant in the Detroit area on Wednesday night. Michigan is supposed to be at only 25% capacity. Anyone with half a brain knows that a restaurant will lose a shitload of money running at 25%. Well, this place was about 75% full. They said "**** you, Gretchen, you *****." I loved it.

There's quite a few in Noblesville and Fishers that are almost operating at normal capacity. There is no way that some of the small mom and pop restaurants can survive even at 50% capacity, it is simple economics.
 
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I'm just waiting for Tibs, Flogged, 21 to comment on Cuomo and team intentionally falsifying numbers and ******* with people's lives while using policies to kill innocent elderly victims. Crickets...even after this bombshell admission by his aide that they INTENTIONALLY ****** with the numbers and lied to us all.

Tick...tock....

"Trump is to blame. If he hadn't investigated, Killer Cuomo would not have been forced to lie."

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I ran this morning to a local Dunkin' to get some coffee. Placed my mobile order, walked in wearing my one obligatory mask and I saw a mother/daughter waiting on their food. Both were strapped up with two masks.

I wanted to say "Excuse me, but when they say you should wear 4 and 5 masks, will you be good little soldiers and comply?"

SMH
 

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I ran this morning to a local Dunkin' to get some coffee. Placed my mobile order, walked in wearing my one obligatory mask and I saw a mother/daughter waiting on their food. Both were strapped up with two masks.

I wanted to say "Excuse me, but when they say you should wear 4 and 5 masks, will you be good little soldiers and comply?"

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I ran this morning to a local Dunkin' to get some coffee. Placed my mobile order, walked in wearing my one obligatory mask and I saw a mother/daughter waiting on their food. Both were strapped up with two masks.

I wanted to say "Excuse me, but when they say you should wear 4 and 5 masks, will you be good little soldiers and comply?"

SMH

About two days after they started the two mask nonsense, I saw two people wearing two masks in the commissary. I have a hard enough time breathing in one mask. They’re going to have to kill me to get me to wear two.
 

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About two days after they started the two mask nonsense, I saw two people wearing two masks in the commissary. I have a hard enough time breathing in one mask. They’re going to have to kill me to get me to wear two.

I’m with you, Sarge. I get nauseated after wearing one mask for a bit. I overheat and end up pulling it off my face for a while. No way can I do 2 or more masks.
 

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I’m with you, Sarge. I get nauseated after wearing one mask for a bit. I overheat and end up pulling it off my face for a while. No way can I do 2 or more masks.
Where are the safety studies on long term issues wrt masks: breathing, lung capacity, foreign objects in lungs, 02 saturation issues, etc.?

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Where are the safety studies on long term issues wrt masks: breathing, lung capacity, foreign objects in lungs, 02 saturation issues, etc.?

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Oh but a mask protects you and it works! Who cares about the side effects??? (Sarcasm off)
 

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There's quite a few in Noblesville and Fishers that are almost operating at normal capacity. There is no way that some of the small mom and pop restaurants can survive even at 50% capacity, it is simple economics.

These ******* dems wanted to kill small business.
As bad as Albuquerque can be, I am proud to see people step up for small businesses here.


My gym is a veteran owned small business. When he was forced to shut down in march. I had him keep my membership open.
All members who continued to pay for the three month closure. The owners hooked us up with a special edition t shirt to rep our gym.

To be part of a community that sticks together like that. I know Americans are not falling for the false narrative.
I have hope here.
 

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About two days after they started the two mask nonsense, I saw two people wearing two masks in the commissary. I have a hard enough time breathing in one mask. They’re going to have to kill me to get me to wear two.

Will 2 masks keep my glasses from fogging up?
 

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These ******* dems wanted to kill small business.
As bad as Albuquerque can be, I am proud to see people step up for small businesses here.


My gym is a veteran owned small business. When he was forced to shut down in march. I had him keep my membership open.
All members who continued to pay for the three month closure. The owners hooked us up with a special edition t shirt to rep our gym.

To be part of a community that sticks together like that. I know Americans are not falling for the false narrative.
I have hope here.

Glad I live in Florida. We would have an absolute revolt right now if they tried to destroy our lives like other states have done and continue to do.
 

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Glad I live in Florida. We would have an absolute revolt right now if they tried to destroy our lives like other states have done and continue to do.

Tons of people moving to Florida from NY and Commiefornia. I hope those who remain have their property value cut in half, serve them right for electing Democratic scumbags.
 

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Tons of people moving to Florida from NY and Commiefornia. I hope those who remain have their property value cut in half, serve them right for electing Democratic scumbags.

Just do not vote for democrats or they may never find you in the swamps...haha. Leave that failed bullshit in the state you fled. Just remove your head from your *** and let the common sense flow back into your brain.
 
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