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Tariffs

As per my post #506
Apples big 500$ billion announcement. Seems they did the same for Trumps first term then Biden term.
Talk about a pile of ****. They did **** all about it. Celebrating before the ground is dug,factories are actually built with people actually working is for ******* amateurs.





Wall Street’s number crunchers are giving Apple’s eye-popping $500 billion U.S. investment plan the digital equivalent of the “thinking face” emoji. Financial analysts have serious doubts about whether the tech giant can actually deliver on what would be its most ambitious spending spree ever – even as the announcement scored an immediate all-caps “THANK YOU TIM COOK AND APPLE!!!” from President Donald Trump on Truth Social.


This isn’t Apple’s first headline-grabbing investment announcement. In January 2018, during Trump’s first term, Apple announced a $350 billion contribution to the U.S. economy over five years. That included plans to create 20,000 jobs — the same job creation figure in last week’s announcement. In April 2021, during the Biden administration, Apple announced an “acceleration” of its U.S. investments, with plans to spend more than $430 billion over five years.

The company’s pattern of recycling key commitments while increasing the headline dollar figure raises questions about how much of these investments represent truly new economic activity — as opposed to just repackaging existing business plans.

The timing and scale of Apple’s announcement appear strategically aligned with the political landscape. Trump himself acknowledged the connection between Apple’s plan and his trade policies, telling governors that Apple had “stopped two plants in Mexico” to boost its U.S. presence. “They don’t want to be in the tariffs,” Trump said.


This follows a pattern that began during Trump’s first term, when Cook built goodwill with the president through personal meetings and successfully lobbied for tariff exemptions in 2019. The relationship appears to be continuing, with Cook attending Trump’s inauguration and potentially shielding Apple from the full impact of new tariffs on Chinese imports that could significantly affect its business model. As Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives noted, “Cook continues to prove that he is 10% politician and 90% CEO.”

UBS analyst David Vogt was more blunt in his assessment, calling the $500 billion figure “completely unrealistic mechanically” in comments to Fortune. He questioned where the additional money would come from, noting that Apple only generates about $100 billion a year in free cash flow, with $90 billion already allocated to share buybacks. “It’s unclear where the cash flow comes [from] to try to even remotely attempt this,” Vogt said, adding that Apple’s current $10 billion in annual capital expenditures represents just a fraction of the annual $125 billion the new investment would require.
As Apple promotes its investment plans, there are questions about existing commitments. Last June, Apple paused development on its promised $552 million campus in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, and asked state officials to suspend the project for four years.

This pause came after Apple had committed in 2021 to build the campus by 2031 as part of a deal that could provide up to $845 million in payroll tax benefits. While Apple has added about 600 positions in the Raleigh area since the 2021 announcement, construction on the campus has not begun.


But even if Apple intends to dramatically increase its U.S. investment, the company will likely face the same infrastructure and workforce challenges plaguing other tech giants rushing to build AI capabilities. According to recent reports from commercial real estate firm CBRE, data center construction activity has increased by 25% year-over-year to record highs, creating significant bottlenecks in the development pipeline.

Construction timelines that once ranged from one to three years now commonly stretch to four years or more, primarily due to power availability constraints. Procuring transformers for new electricity substations, upgrading transmission lines, and even acquiring backup generators — which can take up to 90 weeks to procure according to CBRE — have become major obstacles for tech companies building new facilities.

Labor shortages present another significant hurdle. As Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) has discovered with its $65 billion Arizona chip plant, transplanting manufacturing expertise from overseas to the U.S. comes with unexpected challenges. TSMC has faced cultural clashes between Taiwanese management and American workers, and has struggled to recruit enough skilled labor in the Phoenix area, where it competes with other tech companies like Intel for talent.


The timing of Apple’s massive infrastructure commitment also comes amid conflicting signals about future data center needs. Just last week, Microsoft reportedly canceled data center leases worth “a couple of hundred megawatts” of capacity with at least two private operators in the U.S., potentially signaling an oversupply of AI infrastructure.

While Microsoft maintains it’s still on track to spend more than $80 billion on AI infrastructure this fiscal year, these cancellations suggest tech giants are reassessing their immediate capacity requirements as the AI landscape rapidly evolves. For Apple, which has been more cautious about its AI investments than competitors, this uncertainty adds another layer of complexity to its ability to deliver on headline-grabbing commitments.

Should Apple’s investment plans include significant manufacturing or data center components — particularly for its new AI initiatives— the company may find itself confronting similar roadblocks, regardless of how much money it commits on paper.
 
ummmm......read up. The US is stopping Mexican cattle from being imported because of some new disease that the Mexicans deny. Tariffs are only part of trade, which includes a need not to poison or overwhelm the importing nation's food supply. So no one can really object to the US wanting safe beef; nor should they object to Canada protecting a good portion of its own food supply.

It would be retarded, for instance, to rely on a foreign country -- with objectionable leadership -- for things that were strategically important like food supply, computer parts, or medicines, right?
You can’t have it both ways.
 
lol.

You would have to be fuucked in the head, like the dude in the video, if you didn't understand that any sovereign nation should be able to meet "self-sufficiency" in food security as a goal.

Does the US, today, have self-suffiency in the production of medicines needed by its people? If not, why not? And who the fuuckingg heelll who lives in a place like that has any damned voice to chastise another country about protecting their food supply?

from a couple weeks ago:

Speaking at a fundraiser dinner for his Republican Party on Tuesday, Trump said: "We're going to be announcing very shortly a major tariff on pharmaceuticals. And when they hear that, they will leave China."

He also told reporters on board his Air Force One plane last week that "pharma" tariffs would arrive "at a level that you haven't really seen before", saying these would be announced "in the near future".

In 2024, the US imported $213bn (£168bn) worth of medicines - more than two and a half times the total a decade earlier.


From a different article:
"In 2023, the US trade deficit with China decreased to $279.4 billion. "

So most of the trade deficit, which is China's fault, comes from the drugs that Americans need that are sourced from China, which is clearly China's fault.

Fuucking genius! 4D chess!!
Oh there is plenty of blame to go around.
 
this dude's white supremissy is downright disgusting to Flog.



So again, the two biggest benefactors to Trumps tarrifs will ultimately be Mexico and to a slightly lesser extent Canada, where most Tariffs wont apply... they political posturing from those two countries is solely to shelter their politicians from the few areas the tariffs would affect... they absolutely wont let another country take credit for pumping up the majority of their economies while hurting a couple areas on their watch...
 
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