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Still pisses me off. Moats Wonders If Manning Brothers Went Over Fake-SlideThrow Play

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On Wednesday, former NFL quarterback Peyton Manning managed to break away from his busy commercial schedule to visit his younger brother Eli Manning. During his visit to New York, the elder Manning reportedly gave his sibling a few tips on how the New York Giants should attack the Pittsburgh Steelers’ defense on Sunday.

By Wednesday, the Manning brother reunion news had circulated around the Steelers locker room and when asked about the topic, linebacker Arthur Moats wondered if Peyton taught Eli how to perfect a play he used against the Steelers in last year’s Divisional Round playoff game against the Denver Broncos.

“I heard, I heard that,” Moates said Wednesday during an interview with Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com. “I don’t know, man, I still think about the play where he [Peyton] like faked where he was sacked and got up and bombed it. You know, that’s what I think of when I think of Peyton. So, if that’s what he’s going to go with as far as his advice, we know to tag him this time. When you’re on the ground, tag the guy just make sure it’s all clear. Yeah, the fake-slide-throw, that’s definitely the play that comes to mind.”

While I doubt any of you have forgotten about that play Moats is referencing, in case you have, let me refresh your memories.

With 13:15 left in the fourth quarter and the Steelers leading the Broncos 13-12, Peyton Manning dropped back to pass on a 1st and 10 play from the Denver 20-yard-line. Former Steelers safety Will Allen blitzed off the right side of the Pittsburgh defense and his pressure appeared to make Manning give himself up for a sack. Manning, however, then proceeded to get up after not being touched down and easily completed a pass to wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders for a gain of 34 yards.




On that play, Steelers cornerback William Gay, who was covering Sanders, appeared to stop playing after Manning went down to the ground and that’s what ultimately led to the easy explosive play completion. While that Broncos drive ultimately stalled three plays later, the long-completed pass resulted in a flipped field and the Steelers subsequent offensive possession started at their own 25-yard-line following a touchback.

Needless to say, the Steelers defensive players learned a valuable lesson from that play this past January and I doubt they’ll let Eli duplicate it this Sunday at Heinz Field.
 
I didn't like the play, as it could have been whistled dead by the refs, since he did appear to go down feet first expecting a sack. Kudos to him when no Steeler was near him, and no whistle blew, so he stood up and threw the ball. It's a smart play, that could have been blown dead by a different ref.
 
That's another rule I'd like to see gone. No qb sliding crap. You pass the line you're a runner period. Don't want to get hit,don't run. It's football. Only sliding behind the line of scrimmage should be allowed.
 
I think all Manning's should have to wear "Bobby socks". **** Payton manning as if that role would be reversed you DANG well bet Rothlesberger would have been blown dead (whistled). Worse yet it would have been huddled discussed and brought back if not blown dead right on the spot.



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Ben doesn't slide down like a ***** because a tiny db is coming towards him and he fears his frail *** will get broken-that's a Peyton thing...Ben shakes off LBs and DEs circles out of the pocket and drops bombs! One played like a scared *****, the other plays like a super hero with reckless abandon.
 
The whistle never blew, you're taught to play until the whistle, we were idiots, all we needed to do was touch him and he would've been down. Kind of like the 2010 playoff game vs Baltimore, the ball was on the ground, we all looked at like a bunch of dumb ***** while, I think it was Ngata picked it up and scored
 
coryea said:
The whistle never blew, you're taught to play until the whistle, we were idiots, all we needed to do was touch him and he would've been down. Kind of like the 2010 playoff game vs Baltimore, the ball was on the ground, we all looked at like a bunch of dumb ***** while, I think it was Ngata picked it up and scored
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Watching the play no one is near him to to tap him..


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Going back to even the superbowl vs the packers and a dozen other games in the tomlin era... Not playing to the whistle has burned us a lot... Pick up every ball, always touch the runner down... Dont break coverage...
 
The replay is in the link. Manning steps up and slides down to avoid Allen.. who is then blocked up the arc by the TE. No one else is in position to tap him be cause Manning had a perfect pocket to step into if he chose.. no he chose to slide and should of been blown dead because he chose to slide to avoid Allen.

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**** Peyton. **** the Donkeys....and **** Eli too while we're at it.
 
Yeah the ref should've blown it dead, but I don't hold nothing against Manning for still playing. It's hard to see in the clip, but I think the db stopped for a second
 
coryea said:
Yeah the ref should've blown it dead, but I don't hold nothing against Manning for still playing. It's hard to see in the clip, but I think the db stopped for a second
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Yeah Gay stopped and I can't say I blame him..it's easy to say keep playing but I'm sure he was confused for a sec..

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Sure, play until the whistle. But, the refs ****** that call up and it cost us the game. He obviously slid to give himself up and is therefore down. If someone would have come at him aggressively and even just touched him, they probably would have called a 15 yard penalty. When the QB slides and gives himself up, as Peyton did, there is no need or requirement to touch him down. He is automatically considered down. Bad call no matter how you look at it.
 
I'd say touissant fumbling cost us the game
 
looks like he lost his footing, not a fake-slide.
 
The wifi at work sucks, the video is choppy, but I can't tell, but you always play to the whistle, their guys did ours didnt
 
The key component in the play is the fact that the Ref doesn't call the block in the back on the DB possibly BECAUSE Manning gave himself up. The DB was pushed in the back and that's why he couldn't reach Manning as he flopped to the ground. But no flag...
 
Definitely slid to avoid the sack its Manning Family signature play..Eli does it all the time too.
 
coryea said:
Ok, why did he slide? Did someone run by him, I can't remember, it did look our db slowed up though thinking he was going to be down
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Allen flew by him because Manning slid up to avoid him. Once he slid up the TE was able to get back into the play and block Allen preventing him from turning around and tapping Manning down..Allen is the only person with a chance to do that becasue everyone else was being blocked..
 
Why must we speculate at what "should have been called"...here's the rule:

http://static.nfl.com/static/conten.../pdfs/10_Rule7_BallInPlay_DeadBall_Scrimm.pdf

Section 2 Dead Ball
Article 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:
(a) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body
other than his hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner
touching the ground with his hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to
advance; or
(b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends; or
(c) when a quarterback immediately drops to his knee (or simulates dropping to his knee) behind the line
of scrimmage; or
(d) when a runner declares himself down by sliding feet first on the ground. The ball is dead the instant
the runner touches the ground with anything other than his hands or his feet; or
Note: Defenders are required to treat a sliding runner as they would a runner who is down by contact.
(1) A defender must pull up when a runner begins a feet-first slide. This does not mean that all contact by
a defender is illegal. If a defender has already committed himself, and the contact is unavoidable, it is
not a foul unless the defender commits some other act, such as helmet-to-helmet contact or by
driving his forearm or shoulder into the head or neck area of the runner.(2) A runner who desires to take advantage of this protection is responsible for starting his slide before
contact by a defensive player is imminent; if he does not, and waits until the last moment to begin his
slide, he puts himself in jeopardy of being contacted.
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What more clarity do we need? The play SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED DEAD. Period.
 
I agree the play should've been blown dead, but there was no whistle, you play to the whistle in every sport, you're taught that in any sport.
 
Haha yes even soccer
 
Eli, do you have something to say in this matter? .. . . .

Eli responds. . .

 
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