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Steelers will reportedly decline Broderick Jones' 5th-year option

Coryea said:
There is zero chance that Colbert wanted to trade up for Bush, that's a Tomlin pick, trying to get his LB that can cover other teams WR's in his Dollar General Tampa 2. I'm always putting more of the blame on the coach than the GM. IMO the coach says who they want the GM makes it happen. The manager of a restaurant isn't going to go buy the ingredients if the Chef says no.
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Its nice to speculate without facts huh?
 
Drink IRON City said:
That 5th year option would have a little over 19 million dollars guaranteed.

I think I’d side with you on this one.

You can’t blame the whole debacle on Broderick as Tomlin jacked him around his first two seasons.

He played decent 3rd, till injury. Had no injury occurred…… who knows his ability to date could be way better.




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Tomlin jacked him around how??
 
steel dino said:
I always hate to see when we decline a fifth year option on a player…
That indicates a failure in your organizational process… either the draft process, player development process, or coaching failure… or all of the above..
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We may get a glimpse as to whether the problem lies in coaching this year. No one was praising the developmental process from the previous staff. What has happened to Kevin Dotson (another thread) gives hope that Jones can be salvaged if healthy.
 
We kinda screwed Jones around, but his attitude didn't help either. When he played he ranged from serviceable to awful. I don't recall any games were he looked like a franchise tackle. I think coaching / scheme certainly played a part in that, but I agree that he should be on a prove it year
 
That non move was definitely expected given the scenario.

Best of luck to BJ getting healthy and having a long prosperous career where he can exit the game still healthy.

Best case scenario now is the Steelers getting a valuable prove it season out of him, hopefully he can return to health and stay healthy. Rooting for the young man.
 
Litos said:
Nope, but he Might have been tagged
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Why would that be? The franchise tag would be $25.8 million. Jones's 5th year option was $19.1 million.

Either way, the neck injury was the nail in the coffin on his inauspicious career with the Steelers. They could not risk being on the hook for that amount of money to retain a pedestrian player coming off that type of surgery.
 
topseed said:
Why would that be? The franchise tag would be $25.8 million. Jones's 5th year option was $19.1 million.

Either way, the neck injury was the nail in the coffin on his inauspicious career with the Steelers. They could not risk being on the hook for that amount of money to retain a pedestrian player coming off that type of surgery.
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Because Rooney
 
This was revealed via 'trial balloon' about two weeks before the draft. Either Jones' neck is not right, or the Steelers want to move on or both. I'm guessing both.
 
slashsteel said:
I believe he is referencing playing him on the right side instead of his natural left.
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He didnt jack him around though. Okorafor was terrible at RT and ended up being benched and so they had no choice but to play him at RT since Dan Moore seemed the better option at LT. So essentially they were forced into the move. Anybody who actually followed the team would know that ...not some troll who jumps online to type the first thing to come into his rabid brain.

If not Jones at RT then who was the better option to play at RT in his stead?? Jones actually had a better than average rookie season so playing RT was not the issue. His issue is between his two ears moreso then anything else because he doesnt have that dawg in him and he plays lazy a lot affecting his technique and focus. That has nothing to do with him being jacked around.
 
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steelhurt said:
They had no other choice here with the uncertainty of Jones’ injury but this is alarming that no first round pick hasn’t had his fifth year option picked up since the 2017 draft.
Let’s face it, Colbert in his later years and now Kahn haven’t exactly had the greatest drafts.
The 2022 draft class has left us zero return which stings big time in what would be their fifth season coming up.
Lots of failed number ones over the last several seasons. Jarvis Jones, Devin Bush, no number one in 2020, Naji Harris, Kenny Pickett, Broderick Jones ( not looking good). Also, a number of number two picks.
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Lots of poor scheme fit and reaches there. I'm sure it's not helped by drafting at #20 or thereabouts but you'd think at least half would have been good enough to stick.
 
slashsteel said:
I believe he is referencing playing him on the right side instead of his natural left.
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Add in that Tomlin chose Moore to be starting LT over Jones.

Jones clearly thought he was better than Moore and let that positioning battle work against his state of mind. Sort of like a boil festering.

Moore ranked dead last in LT evaluation of all starters for that season, justifying Jone’s line of thinking.

Tomlin eventually told the Media that Moore couldn’t play RT (not true) and thus cementing phycological contempt.

Behind closed doors there was way more controversial going on than what is mere fans had privy.

The thing is, even as a rookie green-horn……. Jones was a better LT than Dan Moore and it took Jones a while to over come the mental side of that decision.





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BLITZ said:
And in other news water is still wet.

I certainly hope he bounces back and has a great season. But no way you can give him that guarantee At this point
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No that is Jen… Wetjen
 
Superman said:
we drafted Omar Jacobs in 2006 (Rd 5), Dennis Dixon in 2008 (Rd 5), Landry Jones in 2013, Josh Dobbs in 2017 (Rd 4), and Mason in 2018 (Rd 3).

I'd suggest we were trying to profit as much as possible off Ben's arm for the duration of his career, as anyone drafted would be a backup. Ben only complained about Mason being drafted in 2018 since he was wanting as many weapons as possible since the sun was setting on his career. Imagine how he'd have been if we spent a first on Lamar Jackson in 2018, instead of Terrell Edmunds.

hindsight is 20/20, and that would have been a better use of a 1st round pick, though. Team-wise, we'd have a much different dynamic and that may have led to Ben going elsewhere instead of retiring as a Steeler.
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After taking Dobbs the year before, I think Ben's frustration in the 2018 draft was about the slate of top picks, not just Rudy.

They got him Washington at WR, but no real impact players or weapons in R1 or R3.

He probably felt then like Matt Stafgord feels now.
 
Confluence said:
Add on duck lips and Ole Berm will be beside himself.
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He will always have Rosie and her red palm, so NO…… he is not always by himself……..




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Drink IRON City said:
Add in that Tomlin chose Moore to be starting LT over Jones.

Jones clearly thought he was better than Moore and let that positioning battle work against his state of mind. Sort of like a boil festering.

Moore ranked dead last in LT evaluation of all starters for that season, justifying Jone’s line of thinking.

Tomlin eventually told the Media that Moore couldn’t play RT (not true) and thus cementing phycological contempt.

Behind closed doors there was way more controversial going on than what is mere fans had privy.

The thing is, even as a rookie green-horn……. Jones was a better LT than Dan Moore and it took Jones a while to over come the mental side of that decision.





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Dan Moore has only started one game in his college and pro career at RT and that was his freshman year at college. He's now played in front of three sets of OL coaches/head coaches and evaluator and none have agreed that his best position is on the right side. Yet, you know so much that you believe he could have been a starting right tackle in this league. Im curious to know how and what qualifies the village idiot to know this??
 
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NoKap#7 said:
Dan Moore has only started one game in his college and pro career at RT and that was his freshman year at college. He's now played in front of three sets of OL coaches/head coaches and evaluator and none have agreed that his best position is on the right side. Yet, you know so much that you believe he could have been a starting right tackle in this league. Im curious to know how and what qualifies the village idiot to know this??
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NoKap#7 said:
Dan Moore has only started one game in his college and pro career at RT and that was his freshman year at college. He's now played in front of three sets of OL coaches/head coaches and evaluator and none have agreed that his best position is on the right side. Yet, you know so much that you believe he could have been a starting right tackle in this league. Im curious to know how and what qualifies the village idiot to know this??
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No. He is saying that Jones was better at LT than Moore. No?
 
stillwright said:
No. He is saying that Jones was better at LT than Moore. No?
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The jackass changed his comment after I called him out on his BS....this is what he initially typed in post #39 (You can verify this by looking at my reply to his post)

"Tomlin eventually told the Media that Moore couldn’t play RT (not true) and thus cementing phycological contempt."

Besides that how would he have known Jones was better? Did he attend practices? Is he on the coaching staff?
 
NoKap#7 said:
The jackass changed his comment after I called him out on his BS....this is what he initially typed in post #39 (You can verify this by looking at my reply to his post)

"Tomlin eventually told the Media that Moore couldn’t play RT (not true) and thus cementing phycological contempt."

Besides that how would he have known Jones was better? Did he attend practices? Is he on the coaching staff?
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Were you in practices? Did you witness any of this?

Here's a real fact, Moore stated the minute Jones was drafted, he started taking reps on his own at right tackle. Even Moore knew that Jones was drafted to be the left tackle.

As for what Mike Tomlin DID say about Dan Moore, "he's SIGNIFICANTLY better on the left side than the right side" with quite the emphasis on the word "significantly". That's pretty much saying he can't play right tackle without saying he can't play right tackle.
 
insaniti said:
Were you in practices? Did you witness any of this?

Here's a real fact, Moore stated the minute Jones was drafted, he started taking reps on his own at right tackle. Even Moore knew that Jones was drafted to be the left tackle.

As for what Mike Tomlin DID say about Dan Moore, "he's SIGNIFICANTLY better on the left side than the right side" with quite the emphasis on the word "significantly". That's pretty much saying he can't play right tackle without saying he can't play right tackle.
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I mean are you arguing against me or for me? Nothing you said is going against anything I said, but I feel like that wasnt your intention based upon your first sentence. So either you dont understand context or you need to do a quick rundown of the comments so you can know who you really need to be replying to (because its not me) and stop jumping in the middle of conversations.

Whether or not Dan Moore "took it upon himself" to start practicing on the right side of the line is irrelevant for 2 reasons.

1) he was a 4th rd pick playing like a 4th rd pick and the Steelers had just drafted a tackle in the first rd so he knew his days were numbered no matter what.

2) regardless of whether he stated or not he took it upon himself to practice on the right coaches still have to put who they think is better suited to protect their QBs blindside and clearly the coaching staff thought Dan Moore was better at the time rather than the 1st rd reach who was a project.
 
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