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Steelers sign Chris Boswell; release Scobee

I said Scobee wans't that accurate and had a down 2014.

I'm saying it again, Boswell is very unproven. I would have went with Feeley.

The educated fans know this guy has NEVER kicked in the NFL. Tomlin and Colbert continue to make bad moves.

Boswell missed five extra points in college. How's he going to do in the NFL?

His accuracy was not great. Just 76.1% for his college career. See the below link

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-boswell-1.html
 
Maybe just maybe and I'm guessing maybe they signed him because he was the best at the tryout they held. I mean that's pressure right there. Competing for a job with guys who have experience on front of coaches and guys who will give you a job. It's not kicking into the wind at Heinz I know but it's a start.
 
Coach said:
I said Scobee wans't that accurate and had a down 2014.

I'm saying it again, Boswell is very unproven. I would have went with Feeley.

The educated fans know this guy has NEVER kicked in the NFL. Tomlin and Colbert continue to make bad moves.

Boswell missed five extra points in college. How's he going to do in the NFL?

His accuracy was not great. Just 76.1% for his college career. See the below link

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-boswell-1.html
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So you would rather go with another aging veteran that has lost his accuracy and range?

Scobee 2 if you will....
 
Coach said:
I said Scobee wans't that accurate and had a down 2014.

I'm saying it again, Boswell is very unproven. I would have went with Feeley.

The educated fans know this guy has NEVER kicked in the NFL. Tomlin and Colbert continue to make bad moves.

Boswell missed five extra points in college. How's he going to do in the NFL?

His accuracy was not great. Just 76.1% for his college career. See the below link

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chris-boswell-1.html
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Well at least we won't have the pie in the sky expectations for his performance and he won't have to take a lot of abuse if he misses one occasionally. j/k haha...that'll be the day. Poor kid don't know what he's in for, you see that empty stadium he's used to kicking in ? Welcome aboard young fella, now buckle up.
 
Decisions decisions

Steelers made wrong fourth-down call -- twice

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Alok Pattani and Brian Burke
The Pittsburgh Steelers went for it on fourth down twice in overtime against the Ravens on Thursday, and based on the expected win probability of going for it versus the alternatives in each case, the Steelers made the statistically incorrect decision each time.

In each case, the Steelers could have attempted a field goal, gone for the first down or punted. For field-goal attempts and going for it, we looked at what the Steelers’ win probability would have been with a success and with a failure (assuming getting exactly the distance to go for a fourth-down conversion). The win probability numbers are based on Brian Burke’s model (not the same as on TruMedia), which accounts specifically for the newer overtime rules.

Success rates were based on league averages for that area of the field. For the punting option, we assume the punt would give the Ravens possession at their own 12-yard line, on average, in each case (since each would have come from the Ravens’ side of the field).

For more on the analysis behind the analysis, read Brian’s explanation from his old site.

Below are the details of the risk-reward calculations. In both cases, the field goal provides both the biggest upside and the most downside. Going for it is less high-risk/high-reward, because the difference in outcomes isn’t as extreme. Punting provides the most predictable outcome.

Steelers On 4th-And-2 From Ravens' 39 In Overtime
CHANCE OF SUCCESS WIN PROB
IF SUCCESSFUL WIN PROB IF FAILED EXPECTED
WIN PROB
FG 42% 78% 29% 50
Go For It 55% 69% 36% 54%
Punt 60%
*Assumes average FG and 4th down conversion rates
Steelers On 4th-And-1 From Ravens' 33 In Overtime
CHANCE OF SUCCESS WIN PROB
IF SUCCESSFUL WIN PROB IF FAILED EXPECTED
WIN PROB
FG 68% 100% 34% 79%
Go For It 65% 84% 39% 68%
Punt 60%
*Assumes average FG and 4th down conversion rates
Summarizing with just the overall expected win probability for each possibility on each fourth down, the statistically correct decision was to punt on the first fourth down (a field-goal attempt was too long and going for it was not enough of a reward) and attempt a field goal on the second fourth down (a field-goal attempt had a pretty good chance of success and would have won the game).

On the second decision, it could be argued that a league average field goal success rate doesn’t apply at Heinz Field (notoriously bad for kickers) and for Josh Scobee, who struggled in the game and earlier this season. Based on the win probabilities that were considered, the break-even success percentage to make attempting a field goal the highest-probability decision on that second fourth down was about 52 percent.

If Mike Tomlin felt Scobee was worse than a coin flip to make the field goal (Scobee was 62 percent on 50-plus-yard kicks entering Thursday) and that the Steelers had around the league average of a 65-percent chance to convert on the fourth-and-1, going for it would be more justifiable for the Steelers. But in that case, running the ball might have been a better option. League averages show that rushing is generally more successful at converting fourth-and-1 in the middle of the field than a called pass play -- about 70 percent for rushing vs. 60 percent for pass plays (includes passes, sacks and scrambles).

It’s worth nothing that while most win probability-based analysis of fourth-down decisions favor teams going for it more than coaches usually choose to, the opposite is true in this case. Based on the numbers, the Steelers would have likely been better off not going for it on each of their two fourth downs in overtime against the Ravens on Thursday night.
 
JMM said:
Sounds promising. Is Suisham's career done with an ACL injury or is he slated to return?
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I just assume this kid makes sushi a memory. YOUNG up side, lets see what happens.........





Salute the nation
 
SteelChip said:
Well at least we won't have the pie in the sky expectations for his performance and he won't have to take a lot of abuse if he misses one occasionally. j/k haha...that'll be the day. Poor kid don't know what he's in for, you see that empty stadium he's used to kicking in ? Welcome aboard young fella, now buckle up.
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Dude better not miss his first home attempt.........

Marmalard.....dead!
Neidermeyer....dead!
Boswell......
 
steelermania said:
I guess you would have sent Scobee out there to miss a 51 yarder, and give the Rats the ball at the 41. The play call sucked, but the decision to go for it made all the sense in the world.
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Punt the ball on the 51 yarder, but send him out there for a 41 yarder to win the freakin game. It was pretty simple.
 
Good, the Scobee drama is over. We can move on. It is concerning of no game experience. Not saying, but the last time we picked up a kicker from the scrap heap as a free agent he turned into one of the best. (Gary Anderson). Let's wish this kid well and hope that he can be a very solid to good kicker.
 
steelermania said:
You're assuming everything would have gone the same way, which usually never happens. Let's say the Rats get the ball at the 10 and only gain 3 yards. You don't know what type of punt their kicker would have made. Sure, he might have shanked it out of bounds at the 35. Then again, he may have boomed a 50 yarder. A lot of ifs. If the Steelers make the first down, they have the ball inside the Rats 40. That is better than pinning the Rats deep. 4th and 2 is hardly an impossible task. They just didn't make the play. People are always talking about being aggressive, and playing to win. Then, when teams do that, and it doesn't work, everyone is mad that they didn't go the conservative route. Yet, all over this board, people are complaining that the offense was too vanilla during the game. I guess the wrong call is the one that fails, even though sometimes all of your choices would have come up short.
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Indeed, there is some assumption there, which is why I gave them the ball on the 20 to start with. The type of punt would have most likely been the same, just as returnable. What we cannot assume is that three Ravens tripped and fell on their faces, allowing Vick to get a first down on an ill-devised 4th down play, and you and all the others would be telling us what a genius he is. That didn't happen, did it?

Aggression is all about timing. In poker, in football, in life. And Tomlin's timing has tended to suck.
 
Steel Ballin said:
What happens when this guy goes 3/6?
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Everyone will be screaming for his head, I'll renew my bet that he will still be the head coach in ten years, and no one will take me up on it.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Everyone will be screaming for his head, I'll renew my bet that he will still be the head coach in ten years, and no one will take me up on it.
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That's a pretty safe bet-although he may not want to stay 10 more. If he matches his record to date he'll have the best W/L percentage in Steeler history and another SB would really make the Rooney's look like genius.
 
Shane Falco said:
Good, the Scobee drama is over. We can move on. It is concerning of no game experience. Not saying, but the last time we picked up a kicker from the scrap heap as a free agent he turned into one of the best. (Gary Anderson). Let's wish this kid well and hope that he can be a very solid to good kicker.
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You new to the board or something? The Scooby topic is good at least until the end of the season.
 
Actually the last one we picked up with no experience was Reed. He turned out pretty good for awhile
 
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We have given up a 5th and 6th round pick for 1 guy who doesn't play and another who contributed significantly to our losses.

I hope we are really god with picks 1-4.
 
Punting the ball from the 39 was a no brainer, when you take into consideration the Ravens had
2 receivers knocked out of the game at that point. The odds were that if you punt inside the 20, you get
it back around the 50.
 
Steelerfreak said:
We have given up a 5th and 6th round pick for 1 guy who doesn't play and another who contributed significantly to our losses.

I hope we are really god with picks 1-4.
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I'm still confused about Boykin...I thought he would easily be the Steeler #1 inside corner. Anyone have the story? Why trade a pick for a guy who doesn't even get on the field?
Hell, why keep a roster spot for a guy who only fields kickoffs which 90% go thru the end zone. I'm so confused!
 
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