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Steelers sign CB -Al-Hajj Shabazz from the practice squad.

A bad 2nd round pick. The guy too small and light.

And his head is on the big side. I can't believe you missed that one.
 
Hubbard seemed to play pretty well yesterday. Could that mean Tomlin/Munchak may know a little more than many of the posters here?

Played very well our highest rated player according to PFF
 
thing is..............


I prefer that player not to be a PS player.


You brought Harris in for depth concerns, in the mean time we lost a promising rookie T, Harris, and have Gilbert hobble horsing it with a multitude of injuries.

So as a response you sign a PS player?

really?

I love what they do with most of the team, but this sitting on their hands **** is mind numbing.

1 Polamalu leaves no vet brought in.
2 Following year CB a problem area, but don't attack it in free agency)
3 Now T a problem, brings in a PS player despite having the coin to bring in a experienced T.


And a few of yinz will be like who?

Well you attack your list you put together in the offseason and bring them in for tryouts. 3 or 4 of them.


For me it is stop acting like what is on the roster is enough.


Coming up short year after year proves at times you need to give it a depth push.

This is one of those times.

Colbert I am focusing in on you more than anyone..........

you do know the FO brought a decent FA and also drafted a 4th rounder. The lack of depth was taken care of but no one can predict three injuries to the same spot (Gilbert, Harris, Hawkins). Bad luck, nothing else, fortunately Hubbard made me eat a big plate of crow
 
They could have saved a few weeks and put Golson on the IR from day one. There was no way he was going to see the field this year. He may, unfortunately, never see the field.
 
Hubbard seemed to play pretty well yesterday. Could that mean Tomlin/Munchak may know a little more than many of the posters here?

Munchak is a great coach. Tomlin has nothing to do with it.
 
The only guy on that list I would consider is probably Jake Long and I don't know if he has much of anything left in the tank...
 
The only guy on that list I would consider is probably Jake Long and I don't know if he has much of anything left in the tank...

Probably right, but worth looking at, in general. I'm not sure how many teams could trot out their 3rd string RT and have success at the position.
 
Gene Collier: Maybe the Steelers' coaches do know what they're doing
October 10, 2016 12:00 AM
By Gene Collier / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



The list of perfectly valid reasons why the Steelers would spank the New York Jets Sunday was longer than the menu at the Cheesecake Factory, which is probably why Ben Roethlisberger decided to flip right to the desserts.

After Pittsburgh’s first two plays turned up only three yards, the quarterback went all in, eschewing an assortment of predictable sweets and calling for the big boy — the downfield equivalent of the White Chocolate Caramel Macadamia Nut Cheesecake.

And Sammy Coates didn’t drop it.

That 72-yard touchdown pass, spectacular as it looked, was only what was to be expected given the disparate profiles of the two teams on stage. The Jets were dragging around a 1-3 record due mostly to a secondary that was allowing 71 percent of the incoming passes to be completed. Roethlisberger thus completed 72 percent of his season-high 47 throws. The Jets had allowed a league-high six completions of 40 yards or more. Coates hauled one down for 72 on the second pass of the game. The Jets were without injured cornerback Darrelle Revis, who hauls down $1,062,500 per game to make sure this exact kind of thing never happens.

On top of all that, the Steelers were at home on a dry track that would unleash their thoroughbred offense, and where they were 8-1 all-time against the Jets.

But when all such empirical evidence leans hard toward the benefit of Mike Tomlin’s team, what does Mike Tomlin’s team too often do?

It loses, of course, but not here, not now. This was a clear case of the Steelers failing to play down to their competition. On a day when they should have beaten the awful Jets by, like 31-13, they beat the awful Jets, 31-13.

“I think the older we get, and we’ve got a pretty veteran group on offense now, you just kind of roll with it,” said Pro Bowl guard David DeCastro, who led a duct-taped offensive that permitted only one sack of Big Ben. “A couple years ago we lost to the Jets, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, but I think it’s just one of those things in the NFL — Detroit beat Philly today right? — the NFL is a weird league; it changes every week. Nobody can put their finger on it.”

And yet everyone tries, especially those who love to finger Tomlin for any perceived inadequacy, never mind that he’s now 56-19 at Heinz Field, 96-53 overall. That’s the kind of resume that’s somehow stained by the kinds of losses to which DeCastro referred: 27-26 at home to Tampa Bay, 20-13 on the road at the Jets, 35-32 to the 4-7 Saints, 31-10 to the Browns at the lakeside.

So I doubt we’ll hear any of that this week after the 4-1 Steelers destroyed the Jets without the benefit of a single interception of Ryan Pickspatrick, who’d thrown 10 of them in the first four weeks, nine in the previous two games.

“We never really noticed that,” said super-active linebacker Vince Williams, not about Pickspatrick but about the Pittsburgh proclivity to underperform against underperformers. “We try to play everybody as hard as we can. We don’t really focus on the opposing team’s record. We focus on our record. They roll the ball out there and we go out and play football as hard and physical as we can.

“I don’t believe in trap games; we don’t believe in trap games. We want to go out there and be the bullies and beat up on as many as many people as we can every single time. It doesn’t matter what their record is. We don’t care.”

A primary reason the Steelers have been able to beat up on the Jets and the Chiefs (combined score 74-27) during the preceding fortnight has been the play of Williams in Ryan Shazier’s stead. Williams led the club in tackles for a second straight week, got a sack for a second straight week, and was no small part of the reason the Jets went 2 for 11 on third down and failed to score over the game’s final 32:06.

“He went to Florida State,” explained Florida State alum Lawrence Timmons about his partner at inside linebacker, “so that’s a given, c’mon. But it’s in him. You can just see the growth in him. I like that about him.”

Timmons is in his 10th year, so he’s learned a lot about how the Steelers operate in the full gamut of circumstances, and he knows why they avoided even the scent of underperformance yesterday.

Mike Tomlin did a great job with the game plan and our defensive coordinator, Coach [Keith] Butler, he doesn’t let up on us at all,” Timmons said. “He makes sure we’re really tight on our keys. You saw that out there on the grass.”

Funny, I thought I saw the Jets actually leading in this game for a minute. Actually less than a minute. Actually 41 seconds. But even with New York up 13-7, there was never any palpable sense the Steelers were not in control. Stud receiver Brandon Marshall had 86 receiving yards and a touchdown in the first half, but only 28 in the second.

“Normal halftime adjustments,” sniffed Tomlin. “They did some different things in the first half of the game than they’ve done in recent weeks. We adjusted.”

Some will never be convinced, but it’s highly likely the Steelers coaches know what they’re doing. At least no one will ever accuse them of not knowing how to read a menu.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...-know-what-they-re-doing/stories/201610100114

What is the bolded about??? We all know Tomlin doesn't have anything to do with the game planning..especially the ones that results in wins..losses yes those he comes up with all by himself
 
Because Coach Munchak just hired himself in Pittsburgh, huh?

Tomlin does not coach the OL DUH.. The announcers made a point Tomlin considers Munchak a great coach. Munchak could be the best OL coach in the NFL. The credit I would give Tomlin is for hiring him.
 
Tomlin does not coach the OL DUH.. The announcers made a point Tomlin considers Munchak a great coach. Munchak could be the best OL coach in the NFL. The credit I would give Tomlin is for hiring him.

One of the reasons Munchak gave for coming here was that he hoped to be a head coach again and thought he could learn the most working for Tomlin.You might consider that instead of constantly trying to show you are smarter.
 
you do know the FO brought a decent FA and also drafted a 4th rounder. The lack of depth was taken care of but no one can predict three injuries to the same spot (Gilbert, Harris, Hawkins). Bad luck, nothing else, fortunately Hubbard made me eat a big plate of crow

It was nice to see Hubbard rebound off a soso preseason. I have to say he surprised me. I am happy to be wrong anytime someone plays well.

Next I would like to be wrong about the secondary and pass rish.


because in two weeks, we see if the Steelers are up to the task, or will the result mirror the Eagles game?

but first things first squish the fish !
 
It is my understanding the players on the practice squad were the ones they considered the best of the folks they had already brought in. Anyone gone was signed by another team or they did not want. I believe we recently went the route of signing a vet who hurt himself in warmups and never played a down for the steelers. I believe that both approaches have been tried and the team may like the practice squad guy better than what is out there. One thing to remember there are some folks on the staff who primarily look to see who is out there they could bring in. One of the guys was interviewed during training camp and he explained the system and process a bit in an interview. The main point is the steelers are always looking to up grade the talent level of the team. They consider many things with the players one of which is cost. Some guys that are available just cost to much, or have a medical that does not seem to warrant the risk which we never see.

I agree Wing, there is a lot more involved than just VET vs PS. I have always thought that we were already paying the PS guy, why go scoop up a castoff that somebody else deemed inadequate ? Well I have since seen that I can't always count on that theory just like the Vet homers can't always count on them being the best choice either.

What I also learned was the rule changed....

With the new NFL rule regarding a player coming back from injured reserve, the team can select one player to return to their lineup. This can all take place without any type of notification prior to the roster move, unlike years past when one player had to be designated to return once being placed on injured reserve. The only caveat is the player has to be off the active roster for 8 weeks.

The team now has three players who could possibly be viable options to return from injured reserve: OLB Bud Dupree, CB Senquez Golson and OT Ryan Harris. It has been reported Dupree could be further way from returning that most thought when he was placed on injured reserve, and the extent of Golson and Harris' injuries are not known. Nonetheless, Dupree would be the player would could return first, as he has been on the injured reserve since Week 1.

I can see us needing Durpee more than either of the other guys, if the PS guys pan out to be what the coaches expect.

I guess we'll see.
 
Gene Collier: Maybe the Steelers' coaches do know what they're doing
October 10, 2016 12:00 AM
By Gene Collier / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



The list of perfectly valid reasons why the Steelers would spank the New York Jets Sunday was longer than the menu at the Cheesecake Factory, which is probably why Ben Roethlisberger decided to flip right to the desserts.

After Pittsburgh’s first two plays turned up only three yards, the quarterback went all in, eschewing an assortment of predictable sweets and calling for the big boy — the downfield equivalent of the White Chocolate Caramel Macadamia Nut Cheesecake.

And Sammy Coates didn’t drop it.

That 72-yard touchdown pass, spectacular as it looked, was only what was to be expected given the disparate profiles of the two teams on stage. The Jets were dragging around a 1-3 record due mostly to a secondary that was allowing 71 percent of the incoming passes to be completed. Roethlisberger thus completed 72 percent of his season-high 47 throws. The Jets had allowed a league-high six completions of 40 yards or more. Coates hauled one down for 72 on the second pass of the game. The Jets were without injured cornerback Darrelle Revis, who hauls down $1,062,500 per game to make sure this exact kind of thing never happens.

On top of all that, the Steelers were at home on a dry track that would unleash their thoroughbred offense, and where they were 8-1 all-time against the Jets.

But when all such empirical evidence leans hard toward the benefit of Mike Tomlin’s team, what does Mike Tomlin’s team too often do?

It loses, of course, but not here, not now. This was a clear case of the Steelers failing to play down to their competition. On a day when they should have beaten the awful Jets by, like 31-13, they beat the awful Jets, 31-13.

“I think the older we get, and we’ve got a pretty veteran group on offense now, you just kind of roll with it,” said Pro Bowl guard David DeCastro, who led a duct-taped offensive that permitted only one sack of Big Ben. “A couple years ago we lost to the Jets, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, but I think it’s just one of those things in the NFL — Detroit beat Philly today right? — the NFL is a weird league; it changes every week. Nobody can put their finger on it.”

And yet everyone tries, especially those who love to finger Tomlin for any perceived inadequacy, never mind that he’s now 56-19 at Heinz Field, 96-53 overall. That’s the kind of resume that’s somehow stained by the kinds of losses to which DeCastro referred: 27-26 at home to Tampa Bay, 20-13 on the road at the Jets, 35-32 to the 4-7 Saints, 31-10 to the Browns at the lakeside.

So I doubt we’ll hear any of that this week after the 4-1 Steelers destroyed the Jets without the benefit of a single interception of Ryan Pickspatrick, who’d thrown 10 of them in the first four weeks, nine in the previous two games.

“We never really noticed that,” said super-active linebacker Vince Williams, not about Pickspatrick but about the Pittsburgh proclivity to underperform against underperformers. “We try to play everybody as hard as we can. We don’t really focus on the opposing team’s record. We focus on our record. They roll the ball out there and we go out and play football as hard and physical as we can.

“I don’t believe in trap games; we don’t believe in trap games. We want to go out there and be the bullies and beat up on as many as many people as we can every single time. It doesn’t matter what their record is. We don’t care.”

A primary reason the Steelers have been able to beat up on the Jets and the Chiefs (combined score 74-27) during the preceding fortnight has been the play of Williams in Ryan Shazier’s stead. Williams led the club in tackles for a second straight week, got a sack for a second straight week, and was no small part of the reason the Jets went 2 for 11 on third down and failed to score over the game’s final 32:06.

“He went to Florida State,” explained Florida State alum Lawrence Timmons about his partner at inside linebacker, “so that’s a given, c’mon. But it’s in him. You can just see the growth in him. I like that about him.”

Timmons is in his 10th year, so he’s learned a lot about how the Steelers operate in the full gamut of circumstances, and he knows why they avoided even the scent of underperformance yesterday.

Mike Tomlin did a great job with the game plan and our defensive coordinator, Coach [Keith] Butler, he doesn’t let up on us at all,” Timmons said. “He makes sure we’re really tight on our keys. You saw that out there on the grass.”

Funny, I thought I saw the Jets actually leading in this game for a minute. Actually less than a minute. Actually 41 seconds. But even with New York up 13-7, there was never any palpable sense the Steelers were not in control. Stud receiver Brandon Marshall had 86 receiving yards and a touchdown in the first half, but only 28 in the second.

“Normal halftime adjustments,” sniffed Tomlin. “They did some different things in the first half of the game than they’ve done in recent weeks. We adjusted.”

Some will never be convinced, but it’s highly likely the Steelers coaches know what they’re doing. At least no one will ever accuse them of not knowing how to read a menu.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...-know-what-they-re-doing/stories/201610100114

What is the bolded about??? We all know Tomlin doesn't have anything to do with the game planning..especially the ones that results in wins..losses yes those he comes up with all by himself

I bet you creamed your jeans when you saw that quote, didn't you Antdrew?
 
Because Coach Munchak just hired himself in Pittsburgh, huh?

Silly. Dan Rooney hired him. He does all the great things that happen to the Steelers. Deuce and Tombert just get in his way.
 
“ Stud receiver Brandon Marshall had 86 receiving yards and a touchdown in the first half, but only 28 in the second. Normal halftime adjustments,” sniffed Tomlin. “They did some different things in the first half of the game than they’ve done in recent weeks. We adjusted.”

LOL..It wasn't that long ago that 'The Nation' would accuse Tomlin and coach Dick of refusing to adjust the game plan anytime.... with some validity I might add.

Am I to deduce that our present DC is a bit more flexible perhaps ?
 
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