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Sports Illustrated Peter King's take on the game

**** Peter King. Piece of ****

King is now working on his 50th consecutive incorrect SB prediction. And he was probably reading about the first 30 winners when he made those.
 
I'll leave it up to Butler to stop the better TE's. If you asking me, chipping them on their release and covering them by being in front of them, forcing the QB to make a good throw is best. You can't cover these guys in a trailing position.

They will wall you off.

I'm confused... If you are in front of a TE in coverage, aren't you also in a trailing position?
 
And if you try to play BEHIND Gronkowski, he's just going to plow over you near the goal line or near the sticks.

Guys a freak of nature. I don't know how the ******* cheaters got him.
 
I'm confused... If you are in front of a TE in coverage, aren't you also in a trailing position?

Edit: Should read trailing from behind a player's backside. I see that too often when the Steelers cover TE's.

I'd rather have the Defender in front of the Tight Ends hips ( Closer to the QB than he is ) , eliminating the easy throw and forcing the QB to hit a moving target over the DB's head.
 
I wanted Tyler Eifert so bad in the 2013 draft but we passed on him for Jarvis Jones. Just imagine this offense with Eifert to go with our WR's.
 
I wanted Tyler Eifert so bad in the 2013 draft but we passed on him for Jarvis Jones. Just imagine this offense with Eifert to go with our WR's.

Eifert would have been nice. but hindsight doesnt really tell the story.

I cant imagine that we draft Eifert in the first and THEN draft Bell in the second. I just cant see us going back to back offensive picks when our defense had so many holes.
 
Who is our best Red zone WR threat when the pass goes in the end, zone?

Brown is amazing, but he's also on the short side and doesn't box other players out.

Bryant can be amazing, but his hands are not the most consistent.

If we had one, I think we score more touchdowns and kick fewer field goals. Also, with our threats on the outside, the middle would be reality less guarded as the safeties are often helping the corners our, or playing deep to prevent a big play.

Taller TE's with speed and skills are very hard to match up with. In fact, they kill us.

With pick #25, what if the best 3 CB's and OLB's are gone, but a player like Jordan Leggett ( 40 catches 8 TD's ) at Clemson is still on the board. If Leggett works out and runs well, this might not be a bad option, especially if we trade our first round pick.

While the O can rack up yards with anyone, I have seen a bit too many come from behind losses.

The Steelers have two tall TEs on the roster now and using a valuable draft pick on a TE for just that purpose doesn't seem prudent to me. I would rather see the Steelers attempt to develop James and/or Spaeth into that tall TE red zone receiver and use the draft pick to help in areas that the Steelers truly need help. The offense really shouldn't need any more weapons to be successful, the defense on the other hand...

Not to mention the Steelers will try and develop these guys (based on the past) before they draft another TE, IMO. They're giving Jarvis Jones a chance to develop, no matter how loud we all yelled and screamed for Antwon Blake to be benched he never was, so IMO, the Steelers are going to give Jesse James a chance to develop.

Papillon
 
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Who is our best Red zone WR threat when the pass goes in the end, zone?

Brown is amazing, but he's also on the short side and doesn't box other players out.

Bryant can be amazing, but his hands are not the most consistent.

If we had one, I think we score more touchdowns and kick fewer field goals. Also, with our threats on the outside, the middle would be reality less guarded as the safeties are often helping the corners our, or playing deep to prevent a big play.

Taller TE's with speed and skills are very hard to match up with. In fact, they kill us.

With pick #25, what if the best 3 CB's and OLB's are gone, but a player like Jordan Leggett ( 40 catches 8 TD's ) at Clemson is still on the board. If Leggett works out and runs well, this might not be a bad option, especially if we trade our first round pick.

While the O can rack up yards with anyone, I have seen a bit too many come from behind losses.

And herein lies the problem...

Peter King's analysis is NO BETTER than the information one can find HERE on Steeler Nation.

Taking a pass catching, route running, agile TE in the 1st round is LUDICROUS!!! As it has been stated, Jesse James is still "that guy for us"---let's wait and see.

Back to your analysis...

Why is it that you place none of the "fault" of scoring TD's in the redzone on the OC or QB, who has the right to audible to any play he deems sufficient???
 
No way in hell one of our early picks should be a tight end.

I'm perfectly fine with Jesse James at TE. Well, I mean I'm still pissed at him for cheating on Sandra Bullock and throwing away that fine POA but I can forgive if he's a baller.
 
People seem to think we need a "receiving" tight end. But the real problem will be, will Ben actually throw those short/intermediate routes when necessary? On Sunday he skipped a sure 3rd completion to Heath for a much lower percentage throw for a TD that was incomplete.

Even the cheaerleading Tunch and Wolf pointed this out on their show yesterday.

Ben likes to go for the kill shot often and skips his check downs. Heath was wide open multiple times. From a strategic stand point. I see no problem taking the kill shot. If successful it does open up the shorter routes and running game
 
I'm perfectly fine with Jesse James at TE. Well, I mean I'm still pissed at him for cheating on Sandra Bullock and throwing away that fine POA but I can forgive if he's a baller.

Lol
 
All this TE talk blows my mind. I thought Jesse James progressed nicely during the season, made a key play here and there, generally played better than expected. Who's to say the Steelers aren't already looking at him as Miller's replacement? James should only keep getting better and let's not forget he's learning from one of the best in the business. With Miller, James and Spaeth (or an equivalent talent), the Steelers seem set at TE for the foreseeable future. And there's plenty of improvement and depth needed elsewhere. So again, this TE early-in-the-draft talk is asinine.
 
And herein lies the problem...

Peter King's analysis is NO BETTER than the information one can find HERE on Steeler Nation.

Taking a pass catching, route running, agile TE in the 1st round is LUDICROUS!!! As it has been stated, Jesse James is still "that guy for us"---let's wait and see.

Back to your analysis...

Why is it that you place none of the "fault" of scoring TD's in the redzone on the OC or QB, who has the right to audible to any play he deems sufficient???

Re-read what I said. I did not say TE in round one.

With pick #25, what if the best 3 CB's and OLB's are gone, but a player like Jordan Leggett ( 40 catches 8 TD's ) at Clemson is still on the board. If Leggett works out and runs well, this might not be a bad option, especially if we trade our first round pick.

In other words, we trade down because the value isn't there at CB, and OLB. Although I did not clarify trading down means out of round one. If target needs are taken and the next best player at the position would be a reach for round one, I think the Steelers would glad move down a few spots and pick up say an extra 2rd and 3rd round picks.

Such a draft would look like this

Round two traded pick
round two our pick
Round three traded pick
round three our pick
Round four our pick

IMO the independent draft grades ( BELSTO ) often show pick# 25 to say early second round are pretty close.

By the way, I'd imagine there were quite a few Tyler Eifert fans in the draft. I would have liked him better than Jarvis Jones in round one.
 
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Heath Miller is one of my all time favorites but you can see he is not as quick as he was. Though I was pleasantly surprised with Jesse James. I find it hard to consider not going safety, cornerback or OLB to take Jarvis Jones spot in the first. My best scenario is best player at corner or safety in the first and grab a decent olb in FA.
 
All this TE talk blows my mind. I thought Jesse James progressed nicely during the season, made a key play here and there, generally played better than expected. Who's to say the Steelers aren't already looking at him as Miller's replacement? James should only keep getting better and let's not forget he's learning from one of the best in the business. With Miller, James and Spaeth (or an equivalent talent), the Steelers seem set at TE for the foreseeable future. And there's plenty of improvement and depth needed elsewhere. So again, this TE early-in-the-draft talk is asinine.

Not having watched the games, I can't comment on James' progression. Just looking at his stats, they are better than I expected after what I saw in a couple of pre-season games.

In any event, I doubt James' peak is as good as Henry's. Assuming James is good, it would be awesome to have both of them. I wouldn't take Henry in the 1st, though, unless there were not reasonably 1st round players at CB or S.
 
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Taking a pass catching, route running, agile TE in the 1st round is LUDICROUS!!! As it has been stated, Jesse James is still "that guy for us"---let's wait and see.

I would agree with you if James could hang with the likes of;

Rob Gronkowski NE, Jimmy Graham SEA, Greg Olsen CAR. Travis Kelce KC. Martellus Bennett CHI, Jordan Cameron MIA, Jason Witten DAL , Delanie Walker TEN, Tyler Eifert CIN

....but to date, while he shows some promise, young Jesse looks pedestrian in comparison. The idea is to get Ben that weapon capable of taking the dump off or middle seam pass to the house. Whether it be by land or by air, jus like Gronk.

Between you and me Kev, it's questionable whether Ben would actually make good use of one if we got em one. He has a propensity to shun the sure underneath yardage for the brass ring rewards at times...jus sayin'
 
I'd be fine with a tight end in the first round. Made it to the Super Bowl the same year they took Bruener and Miller.

Seriously, though, they will need a replacement for Miller at some point and I don't think James is that guy. But I do agree with Punx that the OL could be a consideration in the first round.
 
Isn't that why they drafted Jesse James? I think that's about 10th on the list of needs this/next year...

I'm guessing they like Blanchflower or they wouldn't have kept him around for two years.

I'd draft a TE, if a decent one is out there, but not until the last two or three rounds.
 
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Unless two, etc. players rated close then you take the highest need.
 
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I thought Joey Porter was on the field checking on the status of Antonio Brown. I'm sure Pacman Jones and Burifect were really offended by Joey's comments. All in all Joey has done a great job.
 
I thought Joey Porter was on the field checking on the status of Antonio Brown. I'm sure Pacman Jones and Burifect were really offended by Joey's comments. All in all Joey has done a great job.


I suppose, if he is available, we could spend a first or second on him............


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I could see them going offensive line in the first, if the value is there, but not TE.

CB seems to be the glaring need, but if they like the upside of the young players they have there, like Golson, Cockrell and Grant, they may not be as compelled to address the position early in the draft as we think.

Is Cortez done? If so, what a shame.
 
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