Splash play chart.

[Coach]

Great job factoring in TFLs. Those I think should be marked plays and talked along side of sacks and tackles. A TFL or Sack is obviously more valuable than any normal tackle. A tackle for no gain is also important, but not as important as the other splash plays listed.

I've also found that turnover on downs tackles should be listed as a turnover against the offensive team. It is not, but it is just as important as a FR or INT. Your team loses possession, and that is the most important thing a defense can do.

Other splash plays that should be considered (if they haven't been already):
Safeties
2pt fail
blocked punts/kicks

All of these defensive plays are very impactful to preventing points, gaining excellent field position, or scoring points on D.

Great job Coach, I like what you're starting here!

I'd like to add more but there is no data on 2 point fails from a sack or PD for me to use. I did add block punts, and safeties.

Due to popular demand, I'm going to give increase the value of a sack to 1.5. I'll recalculate at the end of the season. Or someone else can do it now. If Justin wants this can be a Steeler Nation special.

If I had the data a PD would be as follows:

swatted down at the line 1 point
swatted down 15-20 yards from the line of scrimmage 1.5 points
Swatted down 30 or more yards or in the end zone 2 points
Swatted down in the end zone on a catchable ball, 3 points as that is a key defense

 

[Stryker]

I think you're right in valuing FRs as well. Those FFs can be recovered by anyone. It's not a turnover until the FR.

I've always loved the trifecta play. The Sack/Fumble/Recovery. Only made better with a scoop and score! Now that's a lot of points on one play!!

 

[Steelin]

Without the ability to track where, when and how things happen, I can only assign a general points system. If I had a IT guy and a guy who watched all game to record the data it would be different.

This IT gal might employ a weighting scale based on the metrics that the watcher guy reports.

 

[Drink IRON City]

If you look at the statisticians who record the entries...Football, Baseball, Basketball etc., there is a process that is followed to determine those stats.

In my youth I worked for a minor league baseball team. I sat next to the individual who determined the hits, errors and put outs for the game record. The individual keeping stats was a sports writer (as most teams use newspaper writers for this role) and apparently there is a code these folks follow to protect the tradition of the sport. Having said that, there is no doubt “home cooking” occurs on some calls.

Regardless, the code includes keeping it simple, but ruling an outcome decision based on the situation at hand.

Personally, I just wish the NFL could simplify the definition of a catch. That would be a good start.


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So you're saying Ray Lewis may not have made ALL those tackles...............?????


I definately am on that boat of simplifying the "catch" rule as then we, the fan, can actually know if it is a catch or not. He'll multiple times I've seen the ref's guess at that very thing, is it a catch??? I think sometimes they are waiting for the VEGAS determination.



Salute the nation

 

[Ike Kelly]

I'd like to add more but there is no data on 2 point fails from a sack or PD for me to use. I did add block punts, and safeties.

Due to popular demand, I'm going to give increase the value of a sack to 1.5. I'll recalculate at the end of the season. Or someone else can do it now. If Justin wants this can be a Steeler Nation special.

If I had the data a PD would be as follows:

swatted down at the line 1 point
swatted down 15-20 yards from the line of scrimmage 1.5 points
Swatted down 30 or more yards or in the end zone 2 points
Swatted down in the end zone on a catchable ball, 3 points as that is a key defense

What the difference as to where the PD is? It's a defended pass attempt. Like hitting a baseball, doesn't matter if the pitch is a slider, fastball, curve, sinker, etc. it's a hit at bat. The result is a statistic itself single/dbl, etc. There is no different result for a PD unless it's a turnover on downs. That is recorded on the stat lines. The drive chart sheets.

Swatted catchable ball in the EZ? Seriously? A PD is a defended catchable pass. If it's uncatchable it's either incomplete, grounded or INT.

So you're saying Ray Lewis may not have made ALL those tackles...............?????


I definately am on that boat of simplifying the "catch" rule as then we, the fan, can actually know if it is a catch or not. He'll multiple times I've seen the ref's guess at that very thing, is it a catch??? I think sometimes they are waiting for the VEGAS determination.

Salute the nation

DIC it is well known by beat writers across the league that Ray Ray had padded stats. I recall around ten years ago someone anonymously called out Lewis getting credited for a tackle on a play during a national broadcast when he wasn't even in the game at the time (in the locker room getting looked at).


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[Coach]

This IT gal might employ a weighting scale based on the metrics that the watcher guy reports.

How are you SQL skills?

 

[Steelin]

How are you SQL skills?

SQL 2000 through SQL 2016.

 

[Coach]

SQL 2000 through SQL 2016.

Good experience. Nice to see some women in IT. Its the area I work in, and its 90% men.

 

[Steelin]

It is mostly men. I'm way too logical to be a woman.