So .........

[Confluence]

Baseball's HOF process is much more legit.

I would wager that Pete Rose agrees

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[slashsteel]

In Super Bowl XIII, Stallworth caught a record-tying 75-yard touchdown pass from Terry Bradshaw that was crucial in the 35-31 win over the Dallas Cowboys. He suffered leg cramps later and played sparingly in the second half, finishing with 3 receptions for 115 yards and two touchdowns.

One year later at Super Bowl XIV with the Steelers trailing the Los Angeles Rams 19-17 early in the fourth quarter, Steelers' coach Chuck Noll called for "60-Prevent-Slot-Hook-And-Go," a play the Steelers failed in practice before the big game. With 12 minutes remaining, Bradshaw dropped back and threw it long to Stallworth, who caught it and beat Rod Perry to the end zone for a 73-yard touchdown that paved the way for the Steelers' 31-19 win and their fourth world championship. Sports Illustrated considered the catch notable enough to put Stallworth on the cover of a subsequent issue. Overall, Stallworth recorded three receptions for 121 yards in the game.

Stallworth holds the Super Bowl records for career average per catch (24.4 yards) and single-game average, 40.33 yards in Super Bowl XIV. He has 12 touchdown receptions and a string of 17 straight games with a reception in post-season play.[2] Stallworth also scored touchdowns in eight straight playoff games at one point (1978–1983), an NFL record.

Other highlights
Stallworth led the AFC with a career-high 1,395 yards gained on 80 receptions in 1984, when he was named the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. He helped the Steelers defeat eventual Super Bowl champion San Francisco for that team's only loss of the season, and led the Steelers in a playoff run that featured an upset win over the Denver Broncos in the AFC Divisional Playoffs at Denver's Mile High Stadium.

Stallworth was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August 2002.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Sapp was widely regarded as the best DT in the game for several years from the late 1990s to the early 2000s. He was going into the HOF whether he did TV after his career or not.

Warren Sapp..................................96.5 sack.........................13 years

Cam Heyward.................................54 sack.............................9 years

Greene Brothers (kevin & Joe)..........160 sack...........................28 years. and Joe had 0 as sacks weren't a recorded stat

John Randle.....................................137.5 sack......................13yr

Bruce Smith....................................200 sack..........................19yr

Jason Taylor.....................................139.5sack........................14 yr





Sapp had 3 years of considerably good play......97'=10.5 sack, 99'=12.5, 00'=16.5 and the rest was average to below average if going by sacks. He has 40 players ahead of him with 34 of them having 100 or more sacks and many have less seasons. I get that he was good and even dominated to a degree for 3 seasons but the game wasn't changed by him and make no mistake his national presence definitely affected his induction. I ONLY USED SACKS in this argument but he lacked in other categories as well.

YES Kevin Greene is listed as a DL in the HOF.

Cam Heyward is a 3/4 DL and near enough to be on Sapp's pace yet Cam's position isn't a sack dominant role.



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[Omar10213245]

geez louise...i'd completely forgotten that Bruce Smith had 200 sacks, freakin' incredible.

 

[Punxsutawney]

Warren Sapp..................................96.5 sack.........................13 years

Cam Heyward.................................54 sack.............................9 years

Greene Brothers (kevin & Joe)..........160 sack...........................28 years. and Joe had 0 as sacks weren't a recorded stat

John Randle.....................................137.5 sack......................13yr

Bruce Smith....................................200 sack..........................19yr

Jason Taylor.....................................139.5sack........................14 yr





Sapp had 3 years of considerably good play......97'=10.5 sack, 99'=12.5, 00'=16.5 and the rest was average to below average if going by sacks. He has 40 players ahead of him with 34 of them having 100 or more sacks and many have less seasons. I get that he was good and even dominated to a degree for 3 seasons but the game wasn't changed by him and make no mistake his national presence definitely affected his induction. I ONLY USED SACKS in this argument but he lacked in other categories as well.

YES Kevin Greene is listed as a DL in the HOF.

Cam Heyward is a 3/4 DL and near enough to be on Sapp's pace yet Cam's position isn't a sack dominant role.



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I'm not sure why you're comparing edge rushers like Smith, Taylor and Kevin Greene to Sapp. Edge guys almost always have more sacks than interior linemen.

DT's historically do not put up big sack numbers. Guys like Randell, Sapp and now Aaron Donald are the exception.

At his peak, Sapp was named Allpro four straight years. He was a special player.

 

[FSF]

If Isaac Bruce is a HOFer, and alot of talking heads said he was a lock. How is Ward not?
Ward played in less games, had 24 less catches, 2,000 less yards, and 5 less TDs. Had the same number of probowls, 2 super bowls, and an MVP. Also he played in a run first team with garbage QBs until he was 28. Was a game changer and rule changer as a blocker.

Yet I hear people say Ward isn't a HOF player, but Bruce was a lock?????

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First; remember we live in an age of armchair QBs that don’t know 1/3rd of what they think they know.

Add to it “Fantasy Football” has driven it to be stats dominated — there is no appreciation for what it takes to achieve team greatness vs. individual greatness. Stallworth & Swann could have had better #s, but what they did to help make the TEAM great required sacrifice.

Then you hear these morons talk about the greatness of Randy Moss — who took plays off and telegraphed it. **** him.

Nothing gets under my skin then morons using the moniker of “The Hall of Very Good”

There were just as many ******** that said Troy wasn’t a Hall of Famer. I don’t know if that’s ignorance or Anti-Steelers bias due to the # we have, but its actually a sad representation of how lazy & unintelligent this nation can be.

Hines Ward is a Hall of Fame WR; period. He put up #s, went to Pro Bowls, sacrificed greater stats for the team to win — 2/3 Super Bowls. Was a leader on and off field. The best blocking WR in the game (ever?) and came up big in big games.

This criteria I keep hearing—can you tell the story of NFL without them. When a rule of not blocking too hard is made in your name; think that counts.

Were you best in NFL at your position when you played? Okay, Randy Moss definitely had some better years. But that sure didn’t include 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005 & 2006 — when Ward had more receptions for more yards (despite being on a mostly run first team) and most importantly more Super Bowl MVPs




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