So which players are gonna sit out?

[SteelChip]

I'm thinkin' the NFL was a day late and a dollar short.....

Seein' that nobody has been punished for hurting the "brand"

Let's not forget where this whole thing started to begin with.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

People keep forgetting that Kap isn't playing because he turned down the 49'ers offer two years ago for backup QB money since he was, you know, the backup QB.

 

[Drink IRON City]

People keep forgetting that Kap isn't playing because he turned down the 49'ers offer two years ago for backup QB money since he was, you know, the backup QB.

Blind JUSTICE






Salute the nation

 

[antdrewjosh]

NFL Players Are Preparing For A Fight After All

Dom Cosentino
Today 2:01pm
Filed to:NFL

Photo: Patrick Smith (Getty)
Here’s an interesting item about the NFLPA tucked deep into Albert Breer’s latest weekly column over at Sports Illustrated:

At the union’s meetings in March 2017, they voted to withhold the GLA money from every player’s paycheck starting this year, to prepare for a potential work stoppage in 2021, so each guy who’s still in the league then will have a sort of rainy-day fund waiting for him. If a new CBA is struck before then, the money will be released.

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Last summer, NFLPA president Eric Winston told me the union had a war chest to draw from in the event of a possible work stoppage once the current collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of the 2020 league year. Winston also said that money would come from the GLA, or group licensing agreement, which covers everything from Madden appearances to apparel sales. Each player’s share of the GLA amounts to $16,200, which nearly offsets the $18,000 he pays in union dues, as Breer noted elsewhere. But what’s noteworthy here is that there was a vote taken in March of last year to begin withholding that money from players’ checks beginning this year. It’s a tangible acknowledgement of their readiness to fight.

Any number of issues—guaranteed contracts, the franchise tag, player discipline, the drug policy, commissioner Roger Goodell’s weaponization of Article 46, the league’s investigatory overreach—were already tinder for the players to push back against management as the CBA’s expiration date approaches. The league’s new anthem policy is just more kindling for a fire that’s still only starting to burn.

The union’s forever problem when squaring off against the owners is the ability to keep its roughly 2,000-member workforce united over any length of time, given management’s much deeper pockets. Three years of GLA withholding would give the NFLPA a kitty of roughly $97 million, which it would have in addition to a reported $400 million or so in existing assets. That’s something. That most players have short careers, which limits their ability to maximize their earning power, only exacerbates the divide between the haves and have-nots. A work-stoppage fund that’s getting a boost because it’s been agreed upon collectively can, in theory, ease that burden. The 2011 lockout was a lesson in the importance of having a deep reserve, which, in turn, sharpens the biggest knife in the union’s utility drawer: the ability to cancel games, either through implication or by direct action. But for how long?

https://deadspin.com/nfl-players-are-preparing-for-a-fight-after-all-1826453530/amp

 

[Drink IRON City]

NFL Players Are Preparing For A Fight After All

Dom Cosentino
Today 2:01pm
Filed to:NFL

Photo: Patrick Smith (Getty)
Here’s an interesting item about the NFLPA tucked deep into Albert Breer’s latest weekly column over at Sports Illustrated:

At the union’s meetings in March 2017, they voted to withhold the GLA money from every player’s paycheck starting this year, to prepare for a potential work stoppage in 2021, so each guy who’s still in the league then will have a sort of rainy-day fund waiting for him. If a new CBA is struck before then, the money will be released.

ADVERTISEMENT


Last summer, NFLPA president Eric Winston told me the union had a war chest to draw from in the event of a possible work stoppage once the current collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of the 2020 league year. Winston also said that money would come from the GLA, or group licensing agreement, which covers everything from Madden appearances to apparel sales. Each player’s share of the GLA amounts to $16,200, which nearly offsets the $18,000 he pays in union dues, as Breer noted elsewhere. But what’s noteworthy here is that there was a vote taken in March of last year to begin withholding that money from players’ checks beginning this year. It’s a tangible acknowledgement of their readiness to fight.

Any number of issues—guaranteed contracts, the franchise tag, player discipline, the drug policy, commissioner Roger Goodell’s weaponization of Article 46, the league’s investigatory overreach—were already tinder for the players to push back against management as the CBA’s expiration date approaches. The league’s new anthem policy is just more kindling for a fire that’s still only starting to burn.

The union’s forever problem when squaring off against the owners is the ability to keep its roughly 2,000-member workforce united over any length of time, given management’s much deeper pockets. Three years of GLA withholding would give the NFLPA a kitty of roughly $97 million, which it would have in addition to a reported $400 million or so in existing assets. That’s something. That most players have short careers, which limits their ability to maximize their earning power, only exacerbates the divide between the haves and have-nots. A work-stoppage fund that’s getting a boost because it’s been agreed upon collectively can, in theory, ease that burden. The 2011 lockout was a lesson in the importance of having a deep reserve, which, in turn, sharpens the biggest knife in the union’s utility drawer: the ability to cancel games, either through implication or by direct action. But for how long?

https://deadspin.com/nfl-players-are-preparing-for-a-fight-after-all-1826453530/amp

400,000,000 Plus 97,000,000 = $497,000,000 DIVIDED by 2000 employees equals 248,500.00 dollars

HOW long will that last LeVeon Bell. It's better than nothing but when divided it won't be divided equally, thus some players cant hold out as long as others. I think BIG management will posture to this accordingly.

I think it is a valiant forethought but not enough to conquer.


Salute the nation

 

[AggieSteel]

People keep forgetting that Kap isn't playing because he turned down the 49'ers offer two years ago for backup QB money since he was, you know, the backup QB.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18808233/san-francisco-49ers-released-colin-kaepernick-opt-out
This has been public information for 455 days.

But even if Kaepernick hadn't exercised that option, he wouldn't have been back with the 49ers under the terms of his current contract. General manager John Lynch told SiriusXM radio on Thursday afternoon that the team would have released Kaepernick had he not elected to opt out.

 

[slashsteel]

You can have your view and i can have mine..not the first time Ford has said something crossing the line..wont be the last..and nothing Pride said after convinced me otherwise..

Your view seems quick to the trigger.

So let us recap

often knocks white Ben
likes Bell in every discussion
likes Tomlin in every discussion
quick to use the racism card
hits "like" when another man mentions something is racist

some might say you make a convincing case for being a closet racist

Just maybe Ford isn't the racist you perceive...

 

[GMC]

Your view seems quick to the trigger.

So let us recap

often knocks white Ben
likes Bell in every discussion
likes Tomlin in every discussion
quick to use the racism card
hits "like" when another man mentions something is racist

some might say you make a convincing case for being a closet racist

Just maybe Ford isn't the racist you perceive...

He's been out of the closet for a long time.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

NFL players = Pissing in the wind


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[antdrewjosh]

Your view seems quick to the trigger.

So let us recap

often knocks white Ben
likes Bell in every discussion
likes Tomlin in every discussion
quick to use the racism card
hits "like" when another man mentions something is racist

some might say you make a convincing case for being a closet racist

Just maybe Ford isn't the racist you perceive...

Really?? I knock Ben for his play. Because as a franchise QB i expect better. Because we run our offense thru him..so i expect better results..

You have never heard me say anything about Leveon Bell besides i think he is great player who deserves to be his pay day whether from us or the next team. If we ran a run first offense like under Bettis and Bell wasnt putting up stats i would say the same thing as i do for Ben. If you are the focal point you cant have bad games alot. If you are the focal point i need you to be the best player on field consistently. Thats my issue with Ben..

Not even going to touch the Tomlin we would be here all day.. your point might have some merit if you saw me bashing the white coaches on our staff. I dont. Never have. Never will.. Coaches coach players play..

Nothing you have said or anyone else can say will tell me Ford saying that the players who will be sitting out who will be mostly black players that if they lose their money will be on welfare isnt racist..

If some one posts something explaining things from a viewpoint i understand or relate too i will like it. Aggie and Buckeye made very good points on the subject being talked about. From a viewpoint i can relate too. Sorry but not sorry if that offends you.

 

[slashsteel]

Nothing you have said or anyone else can say will tell me Ford saying that the players who will be sitting out who will be mostly black players that if they lose their money will be on welfare isnt racist..

So you are the racism expert are you.You know what he wrote had a tinge of racism meant. SMH

Sorry but not sorry if that offends you.

Doesn't offend me, I just think you have some racism about you, so it is kind of rich you finger point. Because you might not want to believe it, but finger pointers are often deflectors of inherent issues.

One day yinz might want to look for extended period of time in the mirror. You might discover some unknowns.

 

[antdrewjosh]

So you are the racism expert are you.You know what he wrote had a tinge of racism meant. SMH



Doesn't offend me, I just think you have some racism about you, so it is kind of rich you finger point. Because you might not want to believe it, but finger pointers are often deflectors of inherent issues.

One day yinz might want to look for extended period of time in the mirror. You might discover some unknowns.

So if you care to explain it..explain away. Why would pro athletes with the financial resources available to them not file bankruptcy or have another choice. Why would welfare be a choice for them??

 

[ZonaBurgh]

IMO Kaep isn't talented enough to be in the NFL, it he was, he would be, because it's all about winning and the money that comes with it.

He's nothing more than Johnny Football, and this entire issue has nothing to do with the game itself.

Let's see if he lights up the CFL, but I highly doubt it.

 

[stillwright]

IMO Kaep isn't talented enough to be in the NFL, it he was, he would be, because it's all about winning and the money that comes with it.

He's nothing more than Johnny Football, and this entire issue has nothing to do with the game itself.

Let's see if he lights up the CFL, but I highly doubt it.

I believe it comes down to money. Are there 90 plus QB's better than him? No way....but is/was he willing to take back up money? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I believe it comes down to money. Are there 90 plus QB's better than him? No way....but is/was he willing to take back up money? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not.

Donno, he came into the league at the same time as Russell Wilson, I believe. Wilson grew and became more than a scrambler, and other teams quickly found out Kaep's sthick.

 

[stillwright]

Donno, he came into the league at the same time as Russell Wilson, I believe. Wilson grew and became more than a scrambler, and other teams quickly found out Kaep's sthick.

So you think Dobbs is better than Kap?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

So you think Dobbs is better than Kap?

Dobbs is 3rd string at best, and most likely pursuing his life's work after August. Kaep, from what I understand wants to start. What team would that happen on?

 

[slashsteel]

So if you care to explain it..explain away. Why would pro athletes with the financial resources available to them not file bankruptcy or have another choice. Why would welfare be a choice for them??

I am sure they have all sort of choices. As some would end up with bankruptcy some would live off their money fine, Some would flourish and grow their money.

And some would squander away everything, and could live off of welfare.


My point is he threw something out, very well could be he thought nothing of it.

You obviously put more thought into it.

On a message board where you aren't face to face very easy to misconstrue a meaning.Just as someone is being sarcastic and it comes across their mad, Etc.

I would hope you could decipher that. Instead of assuming racism every word that strikes you of having a minuscule chance to be racist.

If a person identifies welfare with poor, it doesn't make them racist, sorry. Only if their was some intent behind it. And simply not enough there to support it.

The fact that in your mind you so easily stamped it as racial, sorry tells a lot.

Hopefully this gets back to football soon, because I doubt you see anything I am pointing out.


Yinz seem like the type of person set in your ways...

 

[antdrewjosh]

I am sure they have all sort of choices. As some would end up with bankruptcy some would live off their money fine, Some would flourish and grow their money.

And some would squander away everything, and could live off of welfare.


My point is he threw something out, very well could be he thought nothing of it.

You obviously put more thought into it.

On a message board where you aren't face to face very easy to misconstrue a meaning.Just as someone is being sarcastic and it comes across their mad, Etc.

I would hope you could decipher that. Instead of assuming racism every word that strikes you of having a minuscule chance to be racist.

If a person identifies welfare with poor, it doesn't make them racist, sorry. Only if their was some intent behind it. And simply not enough there to support it.

The fact that in your mind you so easily stamped it as racial, sorry tells a lot.

Hopefully this gets back to football soon, because I doubt you see anything I am pointing out.


Yinz seem like the type of person set in your ways...

Yeah not convinced so you can keep tapping til your fingers fall off.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Hammer Nutrician bars (2) plus two bananas is what I'm having for breakfast. I'm off to donate blood this morning and then a little shopping for a Zero Turn (commercial grade) lawn mower because at my place it's a never ending chore, might as well have some comfort along the way. No snow in the immediate forcast.

PS.......hoping to find one that I can cook BACON on while mowing.......................





Salute the nation

 

[stillwright]

Dobbs is 3rd string at best, and most likely pursuing his life's work after August. Kaep, from what I understand wants to start. What team would that happen on?

Which I said in my post earlier it is about money. Not talent. You can't tell me there are 90 plus QB's better talent wise than Kap. The issue is he will ing to play as a backup and also be paid as one.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Which I said in my post earlier it is about money. Not talent. You can't tell me there are 90 plus QB's better talent wise than Kap. The issue is he will ing to play as a backup and also be paid as one.

Agree completely, but it doesn't appear to me that he does, and is using all the background noise as an excuse.

 

[AggieSteel]

Kaepernick is not asking to be a starter or to make starter money. It was said he was happy to have been Seattle’s backup last year but they just didn’t him, signed Austin Davis instead. Here he himself retweeted a tweet that said money wasn’t the issue:
https://twitter.com/jessereed78/status/871875462263263232?s=21

Also.. turns out several teams think he’s a starter anyway. So it actually turns out he’s willing to take less than how teams actually view his value on the field. Imagine that.
http://www.businessinsider.com/colin-kaepernick-collusion-case-nfl-teams-starter-report-2018-5


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[Ron Burgundy]

So you think Dobbs is better than Kap?

Yes but people went ballistic enough when they signed Michael Vick.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

NFL Players Are Preparing For A Fight After All

Dom Cosentino
Today 2:01pm
Filed to:NFL

Photo: Patrick Smith (Getty)
Here’s an interesting item about the NFLPA tucked deep into Albert Breer’s latest weekly column over at Sports Illustrated:

At the union’s meetings in March 2017, they voted to withhold the GLA money from every player’s paycheck starting this year, to prepare for a potential work stoppage in 2021, so each guy who’s still in the league then will have a sort of rainy-day fund waiting for him. If a new CBA is struck before then, the money will be released.

ADVERTISEMENT


Last summer, NFLPA president Eric Winston told me the union had a war chest to draw from in the event of a possible work stoppage once the current collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of the 2020 league year. Winston also said that money would come from the GLA, or group licensing agreement, which covers everything from Madden appearances to apparel sales. Each player’s share of the GLA amounts to $16,200, which nearly offsets the $18,000 he pays in union dues, as Breer noted elsewhere. But what’s noteworthy here is that there was a vote taken in March of last year to begin withholding that money from players’ checks beginning this year. It’s a tangible acknowledgement of their readiness to fight.

Any number of issues—guaranteed contracts, the franchise tag, player discipline, the drug policy, commissioner Roger Goodell’s weaponization of Article 46, the league’s investigatory overreach—were already tinder for the players to push back against management as the CBA’s expiration date approaches. The league’s new anthem policy is just more kindling for a fire that’s still only starting to burn.

The union’s forever problem when squaring off against the owners is the ability to keep its roughly 2,000-member workforce united over any length of time, given management’s much deeper pockets. Three years of GLA withholding would give the NFLPA a kitty of roughly $97 million, which it would have in addition to a reported $400 million or so in existing assets. That’s something. That most players have short careers, which limits their ability to maximize their earning power, only exacerbates the divide between the haves and have-nots. A work-stoppage fund that’s getting a boost because it’s been agreed upon collectively can, in theory, ease that burden. The 2011 lockout was a lesson in the importance of having a deep reserve, which, in turn, sharpens the biggest knife in the union’s utility drawer: the ability to cancel games, either through implication or by direct action. But for how long?

https://deadspin.com/nfl-players-are-preparing-for-a-fight-after-all-1826453530/amp

A union bringing it's employer down. Never see that..