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The sad part about reading all of the comments is the bickering about whose side is the most corrupt, evil, and wrong. Every politician is a corrupt POS who doesn't represent any of us. And by us, I mean Americans. Not left, not right, a collective of individuals who should be bickering with the politicians and not ourselves.
 
Confluence said:
Hey pFlogtard, why don't you respond to the old question, posed to you multiple times, of how you are compensated, directly or indirectly, by those pFarma pFirms that make those health endangering covid shots?
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Responding to Flog is pointless, so I'll do it here. I worked for one of the largest insurance based health plans in the country and I can guarantee you that the physicians were incentivized to administer the covid product. And of course, it's the LPN's that did the actual injection.
 
Steeltime said:
Wait, the Federal government "shut down"? Huh. Did not even notice.
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Someone on FB asked if the game wardens would be working, i.e. to do some illegal hunting.
Moron, they work for the state(s).
 
IndySteel said:
Why don't you STFU and go beat off in the Covid scam thread.

Doctors Received Bonus Payments to Administer COVID-19 Shots​

Apr 21, 2023

The Biden administration and health insurers incentivized doctors and health care providers with bonus payments and reimbursements – much of it taxpayer dollars – to vaccinate large percentages of their Medicaid patients with the COVID-19 shots. The federal government also used taxpayer dollars to reimburse providers for administering the shot to the uninsured at twice and, in some cases, nearly three times the usual dollar amount than it normally does for traditional vaccines.

Documents reveal that the federal health insurance program Medicare, California’s Department of Health Care Services (DHCS), and the health insurance provider Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield Medicaid in Kentucky incentivized health care providers with direct financial gain to promote and administer the COVID-19 shot, particularly to Medicaid beneficiaries in lower income and minority communities. Medicaid is a joint federal and state program that helps people with limited income to cover medical costs.

According to California’s DHCS, $350 million in incentive payments was devoted to injecting the state’s 14 million Medicaid beneficiaries with the COVID shot from September 2021 to February 2022. Out of the $350 million, half came from federal taxpayer dollars and the other half came from California state taxpayers, the DHCS stated in a press release. Specifically, $200 million went to paying out financial rewards to health care providers who met certain performance marks raising the percentage of patients who had received the COVID-19 injection. To get paid under California’s incentive payment structure, which weighted young people 12 to 25, people ages 50 to 64 with chronic conditions, and minorities higher than other demographics, doctors needed to boost the vaccination rates of these specific groups by upwards of 75 percent to achieve the biggest payouts. The pay structure was unclear as to how much money doctors would actually receive.

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As for Medicare, a program for people 65 years or older, the Biden administration is reimbursing health care providers significantly more to administer COVID-19 injections than it does for established vaccines. Notably, the government spent $2 billion when it bought 600 million COVID shots — enough to inject most of the U.S. population. Then it also funded the “American Rescue Plan Act” (ARPA) making the shot free for all Americans regardless of their health insurance status. Under the ARPA and the provider relief fund established by Congress, more emphasis and money has been put on the COVID shot than any other shot despite all the dangers.

For instance, before March 15, 2021, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) reimbursed providers $28.93 for a single-dose vaccine, and $16.94 for the first dose in a series of two. On March 15, 2021, those rates increased specifically for the COVID-19 shots to $40 per dose, and for “in-home” administered doses the rate went as high as $75.50 on August 12, 2021, according to the Health Resources and Services Administration website.

In Kentucky, health insurance provider Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield Medicaid used the same strategy to reach low-income and minority communities. According to the provider’s bulletin, Anthem told doctors they would “recognize your hard work by offering incentives for helping patients make the choice to become vaccinated.” The payments were incremental and included an initial and final payment based on injection dates. For patients injected before September 1, 2021, payments for doctors ranged from a $20 bonus per vaccinated person who injected 30 percent of their patients, to $125 per vaccinated person for those who vaccinated 75 percent of their patients. A final incentive payment was paid to doctors for newly injecting people after September 1, 2021, at $100 per person who injected 30 percent of their patients, to $250 per vaccinated person for those who vaccinated 75 percent of their patients. Since then, Anthem has changed the rate to a flat $50 per newly injected patient.

Anthem’s Incentive program also included guidance to health care providers in how to “soft start” conversations to convince hesitant patients to take the shot. The guidance cautioned doctors not to question a hesitant patient’s information sources, and implied those sources were not of “high quality” and that sources critical of the COVID-19 shot were “misinformation.” Rather, the guidance told doctors to downplay side effects, to advise patients the shot “prevents infection” and that it “is proven safe for all.”

Dr. Peter McCullough, an internist, epidemiologist, and one of the most published cardiologists in America, with over 1,000 publications and 660 citations in the National Library of Medicine has publicly stated the COVID-19 mRNA injection is toxic, dangerous, and the cause of sudden cardiac death in many. In fact, when Dr. McCullough began speaking out in 2021, he called the mRNA injections of spike protein among the most toxic substance ever injected into a human being.

He stated, “There now are 200 papers showing that myocarditis (from the COVID vaccine spike protein) causes heart damage…If a healthy person suddenly dies, and there’s no antecedent disease, it’s the vaccine until proven otherwise.”

Liberty Counsel Founder and Chairman Mat quote said, “Medical professionals are obligated to ‘do no harm,’ a key ethical rule in modern medicine. It is concerning to see doctors being financially compensated based on the vaccination rates of their patients. The COVID fiasco has caused many people to lose faith in hospitals and doctors. It will be a long time before that trust is restored, if indeed is even possible at this point. People have been injured and died as a result of the most expensive shot in history, and it was paid for with our taxpayer dollars. The entire medical system is in desperate need of reform.”
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The CMS payments covered costs. Those other payments are private insurer’s quality (value) improvement incentives. They were incentivizing keeping patients out of the hospital. They do the same thing with A1c, hypertension and other chronic disease management.
 
Troglodyte said:
The CMS payments covered costs. Those other payments are private insurer’s quality (value) improvement incentives. They were incentivizing keeping patients out of the hospital. They do the same thing with A1c, hypertension and other chronic disease management.
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight….
 
I just remembered something regarding the road construction point. I went to college with a guy who worked for INDOT in the summer. He said most of whet his crew did was play UNO, on the clock. Yeah, that was before smart phones. I’m turning double nickels in 10 days. INDOT sucks. I don’t think I need to tell anyone here how much PENNDOT sucks.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Responding to Flog is pointless, so I'll do it here. I worked for one of the largest insurance based health plans in the country and I can guarantee you that the physicians were incentivized to administer the covid product. And of course, it's the LPN's that did the actual injection.
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I work for a large health system that has 10+ hospitals and 2500+ physicians.
I work the contracts between our doctors/hospitals and the insurance carriers, or payors.
I can assure you with 100% certainty my health system and ALL health systems in the US were incentivized for COVID shots and treatments.
And both by the government with subsidies and from Big Pharma with incentives.
And this is EASILY obtainable public information available to all citizens and from reputable sources.
ZERO disputing or arguing.
 
Mass firings about to commence. As the Libs used Covid to reshape voting, let this be the opportunity to streamline Govt and make permanent the DOGE cuts.

Vought: Mass firings will begin ‘in a day or two’​

The Trump administration has threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown.
OMB chief Russ Vought told House Republicans on a private call Wednesday that the administration will start mass reduction in force moves, or firings, of federal workers “in a day or two,” according to four people granted anonymity to describe the call.

Vought and President Donald Trump have both threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown as Senate Republicans hope to peel off additional Democrats in the coming days to vote for the GOP-led stopgap to end the standoff. A bipartisan group of senators also discussed several early off-ramp ideas on the floor earlier Wednesday.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Mass firings about to commence. As the Libs used Covid to reshape voting, let this be the opportunity to streamline Govt and make permanent the DOGE cuts.

Vought: Mass firings will begin ‘in a day or two’​

The Trump administration has threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown.
OMB chief Russ Vought told House Republicans on a private call Wednesday that the administration will start mass reduction in force moves, or firings, of federal workers “in a day or two,” according to four people granted anonymity to describe the call.

Vought and President Donald Trump have both threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown as Senate Republicans hope to peel off additional Democrats in the coming days to vote for the GOP-led stopgap to end the standoff. A bipartisan group of senators also discussed several early off-ramp ideas on the floor earlier Wednesday.
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I might feel bad about that but today my company announced they are closing eight of our offices across the country (not mine) and most of those folks will lose their jobs, so welcome to how the rest of us live.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Mass firings about to commence. As the Libs used Covid to reshape voting, let this be the opportunity to streamline Govt and make permanent the DOGE cuts.

Vought: Mass firings will begin ‘in a day or two’​

The Trump administration has threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown.
OMB chief Russ Vought told House Republicans on a private call Wednesday that the administration will start mass reduction in force moves, or firings, of federal workers “in a day or two,” according to four people granted anonymity to describe the call.

Vought and President Donald Trump have both threatened to inflict maximum pain on Democrats during the shutdown as Senate Republicans hope to peel off additional Democrats in the coming days to vote for the GOP-led stopgap to end the standoff. A bipartisan group of senators also discussed several early off-ramp ideas on the floor earlier Wednesday.
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Just in time for election season. I guarantee the Dems will flip the script in VA and use this to elect a Dem governor. Northern VA and the cities are too heavy for the rest of the state to overcome when they're riled up.
 
JMM said:
Just in time for election season. I guarantee the Dems will flip the script in VA and use this to elect a Dem governor. Northern VA and the cities are too heavy for the rest of the state to overcome when they're riled up.
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Northern VA is a company town and the company is the Federal government.
 
Troglodyte said:
The CMS payments covered costs. Those other payments are private insurer’s quality (value) improvement incentives. They were incentivizing keeping patients out of the hospital. They do the same thing with A1c, hypertension and other chronic disease management.
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You mean , yes, your firm was compensated, by both government and manufacturers, for their part in enabling MDs and their staffs, and all the good folks in pharmacy and drug distribution, to give covid shots to as many people as they possibly could in a fashion never before experienced in modern times.

Thanks to Zona and fedderone for simply stating demonstrable facts; only one poster obfuscated, as always.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I might feel bad about that but today my company announced they are closing eight of our offices across the country (not mine) and most of those folks will lose their jobs, so welcome to how the rest of us live.
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Aren't folks just dying to get into your biz?
 
Confluence said:
Aren't folks just dying to get into your biz?
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Lots of lower-priced competition in most places, also my company has some F'd up ideas about marketing.
 
Troglodyte said:
The CMS payments covered costs. Those other payments are private insurer’s quality (value) improvement incentives. They were incentivizing keeping patients out of the hospital. They do the same thing with A1c, hypertension and other chronic disease management.
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fedderone said:
I work for a large health system that has 10+ hospitals and 2500+ physicians.
I work the contracts between our doctors/hospitals and the insurance carriers, or payors.
I can assure you with 100% certainty my health system and ALL health systems in the US were incentivized for COVID shots and treatments.
And both by the government with subsidies and from Big Pharma with incentives.
And this is EASILY obtainable public information available to all citizens and from reputable sources.
ZERO disputing or arguing.
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Fedderone, you be a liar. Floggy's handlerz told hims to be say'n that da money wuzz to keep peoples out da hospitals.

Good Lord in heaven above is he an idiot. Hospitals were incentivized to put people on ventilators. What ethical doctor would put someone on a ventilator with a 50% mortality rate? Perhaps, and I'm just spitballing here, ahem...the Hospital received bonus payments if they did?
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Responding to Flog is pointless, so I'll do it here. I worked for one of the largest insurance based health plans in the country and I can guarantee you that the physicians were incentivized to administer the covid product. And of course, it's the LPN's that did the actual injection.
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oh pfuck off with your common sense. Flog got his administered at 7/11 - for free - when ze picked up a chicago sytle hot dog combo with XXL Slurpee. Flog is immune to your rhetoric as zey knows how to be healthy and lemming follow goobermint.
 
Badcat said:
Fedderone, you be a liar. Floggy's handlerz told hims to be say'n that da money wuzz to keep peoples out da hospitals.

Good Lord in heaven above is he an idiot. Hospitals were incentivized to put people on ventilators. What ethical doctor would put someone on a ventilator with a 50% mortality rate? Perhaps, and I'm just spitballing here, ahem...the Hospital received bonus payments if they did?
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Do a quick google search and educate yourself, or stick with your rage bait social media nonsense.
 
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