Beachum didn't exactly have a stellar night himself.
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Beachum didn't exactly have a stellar night himself.
Yep, that reason starts with guys named Heyward, Tuitt, Mclendon and McCullers. The big uglies that were getting turned easily and leaving nice lanes for the nobody RB. I think with this new aggressiveness that they are trying to instill in the DL, some of those guys are forgetting the basics of playing the run, reading keys etc.
Understood they were going up against rookies. But I give credit to the cheaters center. He was way underrated coming out of college in my opinion
I never called coach a genius or Troy a bust.....
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Not to get to deep but really blame the players for this loss is not right. the defense looked confused at several points. that is coaching. Butler should have had some type of gameplan for Gronk. Jam him, put 1 guy on him, double up on him, something. but instead they just let him line up wherever he wanted and do whatever. some times he wasn't even covered. that is coaching.
the good news is that Butler has coached exactly 1 game. he will get better. which means most of our players will get better. in my opinion it almost always come down to coaching.
the good news is that Butler has coached exactly 1 game. he will get better. which means most of our players will get better. in my opinion it almost always come down to coaching.
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Neither did I. Most on the board laughed at coach for saying Troy had a big head. I was happy as hell that they moved up to get him. There were many people that supported taking him. Hell you could see the speed and ability to read an offense. He just needed some experience.
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Maybe not. He does protect Ben and has done it better than anyone we have had for a long time. Heyward is just our best DL at the moment. And is no where near the elite at his position Everyone talks about players disappearing stretches at a time. Well that's Heyward. Three rookie OL for the Pats****. Our DL did nothing.
I'm still curious how the negotiations went with Heyward. If he got $10 mill a year ......what did HE ask for? Throw Pouncey and Gilbert into that also. We over price our own players a lot lately. I have to chuckle when people talk about home town discounts.
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My point was Troy didn't play well his first year as the poster said he did. But yeah I agree. Nobody agreed with Coach's theory of Troy would be a bust because of his head size.
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We better hope so! What did every single one of US know before the game? Brady loves throwing to Gronk. Apparently the Steelers were not informed of this as they may as well have been in the bleachers watching Gronk run down the field with not a black jersey in sight. Piss poor pathetic coaching.
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SteelBuck, I thought Beachum played alright. Ben had plenty of time which for Ben and how long he holds on to the ball is saying something. The one pass to Wheaton deep down the right sideline Ben had 5.6 seconds as illustrated by Collingsworth. I thought the entire OL played well; pass blocking and run blocking. That was a pretty hostile stadium with a lot of noise and those guys OL in particular, handled themselves quite well. The DL flat out stunk including the 60 million dollar man going up against duds. But I have to once again mention that I really think this defense's problems all start at the NT. McClendon just can't do the job therefore everyone suffers. Can Gig Dan be that bad he can't get more playing time?
If I remember right, Beachum gave up a sack, a couple of pressures and didn't sustain a couple of blocks that allowed his man to make the tackle. It wasn't atrocious. It wasn't stellar either. I agree about needing a NT.
If we are having known radio issues why are you guys surprised there was miscommunications on the field. Butler depends on the coaches in the booth to relay what personnel grouping the Patriots are putting in the game. Based off that he makes his calls. So if he isn't getting the info he needs to call the right personnel how are the players going to know who should cover who?? If there is no communication between coaches how is the position coaches supposed to know who to send in the game. On Gronk's long gainer it was a rookie(Dupree I mean Durpee)who blew his coverage. He was supposed to carry any vertical route and he didn't went to the flat. A rookie making a mistake unbelievable.
D line was vetting no pressure but how to you when Brady 2 3 step drops & gets the ball out that fast?
Seriously that dude doesn't hole the ball & knows where he wants to go before he even snaps it.
That's the benefit of having a QB who can read coverage at the line & know where he is going with the ball.
Not to mention when your playing 10 yards. Off the receivers
He doesn't have to sit and hold the ball for 6 seconds . He has the smarts & discipline to take what the defense gives him.
Even if it's 4 5 yards at a clip. Then he capitalizes on when you make a mistake ala Gronk uncovered.
Hard to sack a guy when the ball is out in 2 seconds. Was anyone even noticing how fast and accurate that guy is ?
They are straight taking advantage of the new rules and using small speedy receivers with a accurate QB.
I hate the guy and he shouldn't have even been playing in this game but he did the same thing in the super bowl.
He doesn't get frustrated and throw stupid interceptions deep downfield and try to always erase a lead with one throw.
Seriously that dude doesn't hole the ball & knows where he wants to go before he even snaps it.
That's the benefit of having a QB who can read coverage at the line & know where he is going with the ball.
Not to mention when your playing 10 yards. Off the receivers
He doesn't have to sit and hold the ball for 6 seconds . He has the smarts & discipline to take what the defense gives him.
Even if it's 4 5 yards at a clip. Then he capitalizes on when you make a mistake ala Gronk uncovered.
Hard to sack a guy when the ball is out in 2 seconds. Was anyone even noticing how fast and accurate that guy is ?
They are straight taking advantage of the new rules and using small speedy receivers with a accurate QB.
I hate the guy and he shouldn't have even been playing in this game but he did the same thing in the super bowl.
He doesn't get frustrated and throw stupid interceptions deep downfield and try to always erase a lead with one throw.
That's easy to do when you are cheating.
You're right. Again, though, this is why I say have the QB call his own plays. Don't worry about anything from the sideline. You do that, it eliminates the problem.
Is it cluelessness, or just the need today for everyone today to claim victim status? Instead of being proactive and doing something so as to eliminate the problem, let it happen and then ***** about it.
You know what else? When you are up in NE, or wherever you play them, get a big pad of paper or something, get the whole offense gathered around and draw up some plays on the sideline. Let those ******* see you are doing that. Imagine that. If they are spying, they think they have everything, but they see you drawing **** up on the sideline. Whether you use it or not doesn't matter. Now you have them worrying.
In Roy Blount's book, "Three Brick Shy of a Load," I cannot remember who they were playing. But Andy Russell was talking at one point about the fact that he looked over and the other team was drawing plays in the dirt. It rattled him, because it would have been stuff they didn't prepare for.
In Roy Blount's book, "Three Brick Shy of a Load," I cannot remember who they were playing. But Andy Russell was talking at one point about the fact that he looked over and the other team was drawing plays in the dirt. It rattled him, because it would have been stuff they didn't prepare for.
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Ben has done well with the no huddle. Why not just let him run it? Everyone knows the pats*** cheat with their radios. Not being ready is 100% on Tomlin. The pats*** were gassed several times in the game. Allowing them to sub and rest was a huge mistake.
Yea, but they did run no huddle. I don't know what the **** their no huddle is, though. They might just as well huddle, if you are going to no huddle and then run the clock down to 1 second before the snap. Doing that puts no pressure on the defense. They know you have to snap the ball before 0. You have to get those plays going fast. I know why they did it at the end of the 1st half, and it made sense. You don't want NE to get the ball again before the half, especially when they get the kickoff. But you have to allow yourself a chance for the TD.
I don't know, man. I know I have defended Tomlin over the years and fought with you a bit over it. But ******' a, he has been a head coach now for almost 10 years. It is time to be prepared for this ****. You have to do better than this. I am coming over to the dark side.
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The entire game plan for the game was wrong IMHO. You have to go in bombs away and score 30+ points. You also have to know that the radios are going to be an issue. Tomlin should have known that 6 months ago. I don't think Tomlin brings anything to the table that you can't find with many other coaches. Tomlin is really wearing on me. It use to be him screwing up during the games and the players could overcome it. Now the good players are gone and his weakness are showing big time. I think this is going to be a tough year.
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Ya don't say? lol lol
I will answer that this way. Who has the more effective no huddle? Teams like NE of Philly, who go fast, or the Steelers?
Everybody is doing the no huddle. It isn't like the late 80s and it is new. What is new is the speed that teams like NE and Philly play it with.
Here endeth the lesson. Just this morning in another thread I explained to you the elementary fact of the pass rush and coverage working together, and now this. You should pay me for this.
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This is the second thread that you've made a snarky comment to me without saying anything football related. If you don't have anything of substance to say then why say anything?
I think he was agreeing with yinz as in Tomlin was wearing on him too..
could be wrong though
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The radio problems affected the coaches from communicating the personal the Pats**** had in the game on offense and defense. With the short play clocks this would have a major affect on the game. That is the NFL now a days. Personal match ups. The first Pats**** TD is a prime example of what happen. A delay getting a personal package into the game....easy TD. It would give most teams problems...Not just our Coaches. Well that is except the Pats**** coaches I guess. Belicheat deals with it every home game apparently. So he says.