Corner def in rd 2, if the value is there. Lots of wr's, rb's, and olb's so hopefully there are taken in rd 2 and push a good corner down. I think we take Jalen Collins or Rowe if either is there.
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CB or 2 are our biggest needs. A WR is a want pick rather than a need. I do the look WR until round 4 or later. I hope we go CB and then another CB or OLB with today's picks.
I wouldn't be upset if Maxx Williams was available and our pick either.
I hope to heck he had nothing to do with it, but we have NO IDEA whether he is involved or not...none of us know anything about the investigation right now. You say "he just knew her and is not a suspect" I say there were reports on Twitter that half the teams took him completely off the board and teams were "curious" to know whether the baby was his or not. To draft this guy, you need to know with some certainty that he was not involved and I don't know how you get to that point because the investigation is so new. ****, he could have been in Japan at the time of the murder and still be involved.
That, and he is being interviewed by the police, though they say he is 'not a suspect'. The police wouldn't tell you that you are a suspect during the interview process, while they are collecting data. When they have all their data and ducks in a row, then they bring up charges. Right now, Collins is involved in this mess, whether it is involvement through familiarity, or involvement with criminal intent, can not be made clear anytime soon. This is why he's off people's boards. If it's the latter, no one wants to be on the hook as drafting the next Aaron Hernandez. The value just isn't there if he even has a chance of being involved.
Perhaps in round 5-7 someone will take a flyer on him, but I can bet the Steelers will not be one of those teams.
Gregory and Rowe will be gone before we're up. We're going to see a Corner either way as we can't wait out another round without help there.
BTW, love the Vikings pick of CB in Waynes. Perfect Zimmer pick and their best move was NOT moving AP.
BTW, love the Vikings pick of CB in Waynes. Perfect Zimmer pick and their best move was NOT moving AP.
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For his sake, the best scenario is probably for him to go undrafted, be completely exonerated and then he would become the most sought-after UDFA in history. There would be a bidding war for him and he could pick his landing spot.
If we can get Rowe in the 2nd and Ifo in the 3rd I may just cream my undies.
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I wouldn't be opposed to trading up in the 2nd to assure there are still quality CBs left. We cannot wait until the 5th round to take a CB again!
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I was thinking the same thing. If he's innocent, this is really screwing him. If he's guilty, he's really stupid to have this take place right before the draft.
If I were him and got drafted in the later rounds, I would want an incentive laden contract. Not sure how it would work.
How about Jalen Collins in 2, Quintin Rollins in rd 3. That's probably pretty damn ideal for me. Rolins can play corner, or maybe safety. Rowe won't be there.
I could also go DE in rd 3, corner in rd 4.
I could also go DE in rd 3, corner in rd 4.
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I'd love Rowe or Digi!!!
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I think they're wishing for Rowe or Collins, but quietly hoping Alex Carter is there for them. Not much hype on this guy, but he's pretty solid imo and would push both Gay and Allen from the get-go.
Btw for those looking for a full list heading into the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I really like the stuff Behind the Steel Curtain puts out:
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...st-players-still-available-for-the-pittsburgh
Btw for those looking for a full list heading into the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I really like the stuff Behind the Steel Curtain puts out:
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...st-players-still-available-for-the-pittsburgh
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I just don't trust the steelers ability to draft CB in later rounds. How many years have they done that and most are busts. Keenan Lewis is the best but he's no stud. Because of that, i have to pray for a CB in RD 2.
Here are the only players i can see taking over a CB in RD 2 unless there is a major run and like 6 of them get taken before the steelers pick.
Jaelen Strong WR - i'm a big fan. He's physical, can be a Hines Ward presence. Perfect fit with the other steeler WRs.
Randy Gregory OLB - major talent and in Rd 2, if he's a bust, you can live with it.
Maxx Williams TE - if you can land the top TE in RD 2, that's pretty good.
Eli Harold OLB Virginia
Adrian Amos FS Penn State
My best scenario would be if the steelers can land a CB in RD 2 and Amos in RD 3.
Here are the only players i can see taking over a CB in RD 2 unless there is a major run and like 6 of them get taken before the steelers pick.
Jaelen Strong WR - i'm a big fan. He's physical, can be a Hines Ward presence. Perfect fit with the other steeler WRs.
Randy Gregory OLB - major talent and in Rd 2, if he's a bust, you can live with it.
Maxx Williams TE - if you can land the top TE in RD 2, that's pretty good.
Eli Harold OLB Virginia
Adrian Amos FS Penn State
My best scenario would be if the steelers can land a CB in RD 2 and Amos in RD 3.
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Totally agree on CB + Amos in 3rd, that would be sweet!
If they are even considering another edge rusher in the 2nd, I would add Odighizuwa and Hunter to that list, along with Gregory & Harold. I think all four of those guys are pretty close in talent and skillset. Gregory of course gets demerits for whatever the heck ails him, but no denying his talent.
I pray one of the corners we've been discussing is there for us. We need an influx of talent there, it's not even funny how badly...
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Later rounds? Wasn't Lewis a 3rd rounder? That's a mid round at least.
Last time the Steeler took a CB in the 2nd, that didn't work out so well either. Not that I don't want them to take one, just seems they've struggled drafting CBs regardless of the round.
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That's true but it should be easier to hit on higher picks. They have absolutely whiffed on the late picks aside from WIlliam Gay. I want to see multiple DBs drafted and you can't draft your second DB until your draft the first.
In a perfect world, i'd trust in the steeler evaluations and they'd grab a CB in Rd 2 or 3 and problem solved. But i don't trust their CB evaluations at all. How can you based on the number of misses? So i'm almost paranoid about them drafting multiple DBs just to get 1 to hit.
I am hoping for corners in rounds 2 and 3. J. Collins, Rowe, or Alex Carter in round 2. D'juan Smith, Steven Nelson, or Rollins in round 3. Ifo would be a great 3rd rounder but he has a Marcus Lattimore type of ACL injury and will have a tough time recovering. They are probably done drafting outside linbackers until later rounds. People might forget that CFL pass rushing standout Shawn Lemon was signed. Howard Jones who has similar combine numbers to Dupree was on the practice squad all last year. These 2 guys should compete for the last spot or two.
There have already been 4 corners taken in this draft not sure what is left will be worth the second rounder we have depending on what else is there. We might be better off picking corner in the next year and get a really good one with our first round pick. There is also the chance that a stop gap could be released with the last cut down at the beginning of the season which would help the steelers get through the season. Sometimes the players you want are not there when you draft and the ones that are there are not worthy of your pick when you compare them to other players. Lets not reach.
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She was pregnant with his baby, that is a little more than knowing the girl. Sounds like this might be a case of the girl will get a huge child support payment and he may be involved in a Rae Carruth like scenariio to get rid of her.
They are not going to wait until next year to address the cornerback position. This is a deep class and they will draft two of them. I am hoping for two today.
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I believe Bryant McFadden was the last corner taken in the 2nd. He was a fine player, and contributor to 2 super bowl teams. He was fine up until he went to Arizona and got torched by Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs and then came back. But he was solid for a few years here. I wouldn't call him a bust. Now, Ricardo Colclough on the other hand, that's a whole different story.