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PS NELSON would have to lower his demand for the $$$paso$$$ he wanted.
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for 2021. he could make it up in 2022 or 2023. 3 year deal.PS NELSON would have to lower his demand for the $$$paso$$$ he wanted.
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Health might have a hand in it. If he isn't 100 percent teams are just kicking the tires perhaps until that Hooker is back on er feet again.That sounds like the PROPER thing to do.
Getting back to topic at hand......
Hooker hasn't been retained yet that I know of. He met with STEELERS but nothing signed as of yet.
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Nelson thinks he's the best or one of the best CB'S in the NFL and wants paid that way. He is nowhere near as good as he thinks. He's above average and wasn't even better than an aging Haden on the team he just played for.
So more like Nelson PeninsulaI don't think he'd come back but for something similar to what he was making, I would think about it if it were cap-friendly this year. I think that was in the 7-8 million per range. He definitely isn't worth more than that by any stretch. They offered him a restructure similar to other players and he probably would have gotten an extension out of it (if they didn't already offer him one) and he basically said "**** you". That's why I seriously doubt he will even be considered for coming back. He calls himself Nelson Island. LOL. It should be more like "Nelson Island as long as I have a safety over the top".
Its not getting a lot to talk, but our DBs are razor thin. Free agency picked us dry. We cut Nelson and lost Hilton in free agency and added a 6th round pick in the draft.
Watt and Fitz are going to need big years and the coaches are going to come up with some smoke and mirrors because if our DB's are spread out with just an average amount of QB Rush pressures, sacks, and turnovers, they are going to be MEAT.
If we suffer an injury to a front line player at DB, same thing. I'd roll the dice with Hooker. Tomlin loves him anyway and he's a Pittsburgh sports guy. If healthy he's take Edmunds's job 1-2-3.
3 teams interested so far. His agent been busy pimping Hooker.
DB’s razor thin? FA picked us dry? Watt/Minkah need big years? Hooker a FA takes Edmunds job 1-2-3? Edmunds has started 44 of 48 games started.Its not getting a lot to talk, but our DBs are razor thin. Free agency picked us dry. We cut Nelson and lost Hilton in free agency and added a 6th round pick in the draft.
Watt and Fitz are going to need big years and the coaches are going to come up with some smoke and mirrors because if our DB's are spread out with just an average amount of QB Rush pressures, sacks, and turnovers, they are going to be MEAT.
If we suffer an injury to a front line player at DB, same thing. I'd roll the dice with Hooker. Tomlin loves him anyway and he's a Pittsburgh sports guy. If healthy he's take Edmunds's job 1-2-3.
We are thin at DB. Don't equate numbers to talent. We lost an outside corner and our starting slot corner. You are counting on Sutton playing the outside and maybe shifting to the slot in certain situations. Maybe James Pierre is a hidden gem, but he's unproven. Justin Layne has the experience, but hasn't been good. Either way, they have a huge question mark at the No. 3 CB position where they had four quality players last year.DB’s razor thin? FA picked us dry? Watt/Minkah need big years? Hooker a FA takes Edmunds job 1-2-3? Edmunds has started 44 of 48 games started.
We are so thin in the secondary that we have 16 DBs signed currently. 4 with starting experience on the outside. 2 with slot starts. Depth provided by the draft, one a projected 4th rounder who slipped to Priority UDFA. There are a couple more that may turn out like Pierre has.
FA picked us dry? Dumb ***, we lost one, (1) FA DB, and he was our worst cover DB. The best blitzer no doubt, but his coverage spot easily replaced by Sutton and or Bush in the alignment. Blitzes in this defense comes from everywhere now, not just the nickel back.
TJ/Minkah will be cornerstones of this defense and has had big years ever since joining. Hooker would be a depth piece for either spot.
Take your passive/aggressive agenda narrative and complain to your mirror. That is they only person who listens to anything you say.
We are thin at DB. Don't equate numbers to talent. We lost an outside corner and our starting slot corner. You are counting on Sutton playing the outside and maybe shifting to the slot in certain situations. Maybe James Pierre is a hidden gem, but he's unproven. Justin Layne has the experience, but hasn't been good. Either way, they have a huge question mark at the No. 3 CB position where they had four quality players last year.
There is zero depth at safety so if either Edmunds or Fitzpatrick goes down the Steelers have absolutely nothing behind them.
Coach is right about the star defenders. The pass rush is what is going to help the defensive backfield. Watt doesn't have a proven threat on the opposite side. Highsmith flashed potential and could have a Dupree-like impact next year, but he'll have to prove himself and teams can focus all of their attention on Watt. Thankfully the Steelers have some pretty good pass rushers along the DL. Fitzpatrick will need to be even better this year, particularly communicating in the defensive backfield as there will be some new pieces back there.
Good debate here.... I am somewhat in between. I think the D has potential, but I also think they are a CB short. It is worrisome for the plays that have Sutton in the slot. Biggest defensive weakness will be in that alignment IMO. Just have no confidence anyone on the roster would be solid for that spot outside of keeping Sutton on the outside.
GREAT post(s) both IKE and slash. Very good insight as to current affairs with this team. Myself I have a tendacy to agree that CBis a weakness. I've called for bringing back NELSON but that is not going to happen, he burned that bridge with his short-sigtedness.
Time will tell and I think Tombert brings in a scrap-heap player who will make a small splash.
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I hope so. I do think they have some very interesting UDFA options. It isn't a position the Steelers usually hit on in regards to that but none the less some attractive possibles. Injury prone Gilbert is another one. He has some NFL roots as well. We know a player who couldn't stay on the field is a long shot but he has some talent.Thanks gentlemen, appreciate the dialogue. I think Colbert brought in just the surprise player to fill that DB need and he will want to prove it being a UDFA. Shakur Brown