Report: Ben Roethlisberger’s Agent Says He Is Coming Back

[TDX27]

Bud did **** in his 1st 2 years in the league. I believe it was year 4 when he finally showed why we drafted him. Highsmith is not a 1st rounder but in his limited play in his 1st year looked as good and even better at times than Bud in his 1st year. If Highsmith makes a leap as expected going to year 2, he definitely will be better than Bud was in his year 2 and probably even his year 3. We can't pay everyone and Bud is going to want $15+ million per and someone will pay him. There is no way we can or should pay that and pay the much better Watt the $20+ million per he is going to get. If Bush makes his leap (didn't see much of him last year before the injury), Watt, Bush and Minkah will be the core of our D for the next 6 to 8 years. Bud isn't in that equation.

 

[Stryker]

The expectations for this team are very high from some and there is still a lot of talk like this is the same Ben who won Super Bowl 43. He was flat out bad down the stretch. Few will admit to that. I think you're underestimating JuJu. His route combinations last year were utter trash. It's like Fichtner took everything he did well and took it out of the playbook. I also don't see this depth at wide receiver. Diontae is a solid No. 2 when he isn't dropping passes. Claypool had a good rookie year, but has to show he can get even better next year. Who do we have after this? James Washington? He's not a problem for any defense to defend.

I agree about Bud. I think the Steelers system and usage is by far the best for him and I'm not sure any other team in the league will use him as well as the Steelers. I'll bash the coaches for his development, but since they made the change it's worked and it's worked very well. We'll be lucky if Highsmith can come close to matching Dupree's production in year 2. I do believe he can be a good player, but also know it takes these types of prospects upwards of three years.

Let's talk about Ben being 'Bad Down the Stretch' in 05. Was it is 3 TD performance in the AFCC on the road, his 2TDs in the 1st QTR in Indy, or 3 TDs in Cincy where he started playing bad? I will admit he didn't have the greatest Super Bowl, but TD runs and running for a 1st down to ice the game, doesn't show up in a QBR.

 

[BLITZ]

No, but he's still behind DJ.

That's asking a lot for one offseason.

I said best we can get not Hall of famers. That is not really asking alot.

 

[Coryea]

Ben, Rudolph, Dobbs, Haskins. Ben is easily the best of the bunch there, so he gives us the best chance to win. I haven't seen anyone say this is Super Bowl 43 Ben, he shouldn't have to be though. Alot seem to forget how truly bad our running game and Oline were last year. That 84 yard TD pass is floating around twitter right now, it's a go route, the play took 3 seconds snap to throw and Ben still took a huge shot on that play. We couldn't throw deep because we couldn't block long enough.
No matter who the QB was going to be, the Oline and running game need fixed correct? So if we can some how fix that, I'd much rather have Ben than any of those other guys.

The defense is good, just need Tomlin to step the **** out of the way, the **** he called in that playoff game was the most ridiculous coaching I've seen from him, just idiotic.

The melt down on the fan in Pittsburgh this morning is comical at best, they sound like a couple middle age women who just saw their favorite girl voted off the Bachelor.
-saying the Steelers are wasting the prime years of Watt, Minkah, Bush, Claypool, Dionte. LMAO
-saying it's impossible to evaluate Tomlin, the Oline, or Canada.
-bringing up the scenario, what if we they go on and win a playoff game and Ben wants to come back. blah, blah, blah.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Let's talk about Ben being 'Bad Down the Stretch' in 05. Was it is 3 TD performance in the AFCC on the road, his 2TDs in the 1st QTR in Indy, or 3 TDs in Cincy where he started playing bad? I will admit he didn't have the greatest Super Bowl, but TD runs and running for a 1st down to ice the game, doesn't show up in a QBR.

Why? I dont understand what that has to do with Ben in 2021.

If we don't win the the Super Bowl next year then those who were in favor of him staying will have to admit that keeping him was not the right thing to do.. no ifs, ands, or buts.
Not winning the SB will have been another wasted year.

If we were strong contenders I'd be on board with everyone else in favor of Ben staying, but we're not. We need too much.

 

[Shane Falco]

Sounds like their first round draft pick this year will be for OL or Najee Harris.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Ron Burgundy said it best/........... Who do we have to replace him....?

We have him like it or not (I'm on board with him). Get a couple cogs and we could be inj business.


Salute the nation

 

[GILBERT]

I don't get the 'we need to move on' arguments. Many on this board we're putting Ben in the MVP conversation at 11-0. Could have been 13-0 if receivers catch the damn ball. (over 500 yards in play-offs - and yes I understand garbage time). But he was slinging it well - IMO.
The wheels fell off for many reasons.
Fix the OL and running game (Ben can focus on S&C opposed to arm rehab) and we'll be fine.

 

[fedderone]

1. Are you really comparing Ben to a dying cat? No, NOT comparing Ben to my dead cat. Comparing the SITUATION.
2. Ben made PLENTY of strong throws this year. Some, maybe. But his "arm" fell off a cliff as the season progressed.
3. The super bowl was just won by a man 4 years older than Ben, so Ben should just give up and quit? The anomaly fitness freak who has defied time by doing everything with every waking minute to keep in shape, maintain a healthy lifestyle, eat ridiculously healthy, and train his arse off? Are you really comparing Ben to Cheatin' Tom in regards to health and fitness and career damage to body?
4. Ben won SB XVI not by throwing it all over the place, but with a complete team. Which we don't have and can't have because of our salary cap situation.
5. We just went 11-5 with a really Flukey loss to Cleveland with **** you can’t even make up. Fluky? The first play of Pouncey snapping the ball to outer space was really the only fluke play ( also notice how Ben didn't really make a concerted effort to fall on the ball. Just had to fall down on it, outside of the endzone, and maybe it's not a Cleveland TD ).
6. Ben cannot win like he did in 2008 behind a ****** line, so we fix that and we can win with Ben. We fix it! That's great! How do we fix it? Sprinkle some magic fairy dust? Get some more magic beans from the same guy Jack did? Have you been watching our line play since Munch left?
7. Ben has done nothing to deserve getting kicked to the curb. He was not horrible. Wentz was horrible. Darnold was horrible. I'm not trying to be heartless. It's why I started this original message of how we get attached because of how awesome players WERE, and why I drew the correlation to a non-football scenario. Boyz II Men even tells us it's so hard to say good-bye......because it is. IF Ben wants to play one more year, and IF he can restructure enough to help/satisfy our cap situation to Colbert/Rooney's liking......salute! But he's back behind a line that we'll only improve in the draft or bargain basement jabroni's off the waiver wire. Ben will still have no time to throw, we'll still have no run game, and our offense will still be predictable. But as far as "kicking legends to the curb", the Steelers/Rooneys have a bit of a shady past with this regards. So it's not out of the realm of possibility.
8. Ben had new arm, injuries, no off season. Cannot measure the impact of those things. The last lost began on the first snap of the game. Not sure what any of this means, as the entire NFL played under the same exact circumstances. It's not a valid excuse for Ben ONLY.

I'm NOT trying to be Negative Ned over here. I'm just trying to be realistic with the information we have, what we've seen, and the current circumstances.
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[steelhurt]

Some just refuse to let go. Look, I’m very appreciative of all that Ben has done for the team but I’m looking at this differently than most here.
What’s the point of bringing back a 39 year old QB who didn’t play his best football down the stretch. Unless Ben gives you the opportunity to lead this team deep in the playoffs, hell I’d be happy with just a playoff win, then what’s the point?
Some point out the second half of the Colts game which was magical but I can’t get out of my head the game in Cincy against a third string QB, or the one against Washington and Alex fricking Smith.
I’m in the camp of moving on, taking the cap savings and with some additional cuts, gives us a chance to retain some of our younger guys rather than continue paying the old players. Makes no sense to me and is delaying the inevitable. We are not going to a SB this season and don’t think we’ll win the division. So what the hell are we doing?
I’d rather roll with Mason and make a final determination on him. We sink or swim with him and if we have a losing season, so what. We draft much higher and have much better chance to pick our QB next season.
If Ben proves me wrong then great. I’ll be happy to eat crow, but unless they at the minimum make the playoffs with Ben, what the hell is the point if we cannot even sign some of our own F/A’s. I just think they don’t want to let go.
Sometimes a team has to take a step back before they can move forward. We all remember drafting Ben in 2004 with the #11 pick. We earned the right to draft our franchise QB then by having a down season in 2003. It wasn't the end of the world but gave us a chance for a great QB and in 2004 we were in the AFC Championship game then a year later world champs. Thats how it works and I'm fine with that.

 

[fedderone]

I agree. We have the D, fix the oline/running game situation. Ben is every bit as good as Elway was at that stage in his career.

Sorry, but Ben has NEVER had the arm Elway did.
Ben at 25 did not have Elway's 40 year old arm.
There was a some special on NFL Network about "who has the best arm in the game right now".
This was a sometime in the mid 2000s.
They have a few players say John Elway, to which the interviewer clarified they meant current players, to which these players said Elway's arm that day was still better than every starting/backup QBs arm currently in the NFL and they stood by their answer.
The 98 SuperBowl was the Terrell Davis SB where TD ran for 160 yards.
But the 99 SuperBowl Elway threw for 335 yards while TD barely cracked 100.
That ain't happening with Ben and/or this team.

 

[fedderone]

Let's talk about Ben being 'Bad Down the Stretch' in 05. Was it is 3 TD performance in the AFCC on the road, his 2TDs in the 1st QTR in Indy, or 3 TDs in Cincy where he started playing bad? I will admit he didn't have the greatest Super Bowl, but TD runs and running for a 1st down to ice the game, doesn't show up in a QBR.

I think you misread that, Cope. Two independent thoughts.
He was saying Ben is not the same Ben from SB43.
He then said he was flat out bad down the stretch, meaning this season. Not SB43 down the stretch.
No human with working eyes and brains would think Ben was bad down the SB43 stretch.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I think you misread that, Cope. Two independent thoughts.
He was saying Ben is not the same Ben from SB43.
He then said he was flat out bad down the stretch, meaning this season. Not SB43 down the stretch.
No human with working eyes and brains would think Ben was bad down the SB43 stretch.

I'm not always eloquent with words, but I thought I was pretty clear. If not, this was it.