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Well every game is almost a must win at this point. If the Duck has a horrible start and our D has us in the game you make a switch. Must win from here on out.
Props to Tomlin for benching Rudolph
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Well every game is almost a must win at this point. If the Duck has a horrible start and our D has us in the game you make a switch. Must win from here on out.
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Fuknier should be benched too! I can’t recall more horrible play calling in all my years as a steeler fan than this season. I think Rudy’s first game he threw like 20 times for an average 1 yard down field I mean wtf! What kinda play calling is that? And this bullshit of “bring him along slowly..” *** he had a whole season watching Ben that’s more than the rookies out there playing on crappy teams had. They gave him a chance and with that said he don’t got it. He has no pocket presents, horrble footwork, not accurate, can’t scramble, no threat to run. He blows cut him now be done with it... move on...
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Duck was 5 of 11 for 118 and 1 TD. Aside from that 1 big play, he was 4 of 10 for 39 yards and 0 TD.
The offense has big problems. It's not all on Rudolph and Duck wasn't that great today either. The OL has not been great. The playcalluing is awful and the WRs are not getting open. The RBs are getting the bare minimum on carries and have been terrible in pass protection.
Duck is more mobile and can extend plays. That alone might lead to a few more plays. But on most plays today, Duck was holding the ball, just like Rudolph. Because nobody's open.
The offense has big problems. It's not all on Rudolph and Duck wasn't that great today either. The OL has not been great. The playcalluing is awful and the WRs are not getting open. The RBs are getting the bare minimum on carries and have been terrible in pass protection.
Duck is more mobile and can extend plays. That alone might lead to a few more plays. But on most plays today, Duck was holding the ball, just like Rudolph. Because nobody's open.
Tomlin, yes tomlin has run this proud franchise into the ground. Too many problems to mention. Unleash mediocrity. It’s all we have.
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I gotta say this. Aside from the 79 yard TD, Hodges was just as ****** as Rudolph. Dude finished 5-11, 118, and 1 TD. Take away the 79 yarder, and his line is 4-10, 39 yards. The difference I saw is that Hodges can get out of the pocket before he throw an incompletion or throws it away.
I was ready to see Hodges three weeks ago. That said, I don't think either QB is a "better option" unless and until the play calling vastly improves. I think Randy Fichtner is the biggest hinderance to this offense, well before the offensive line, WR's and QB's.
I think both Rudolph and Hodges are better than what they have shown. I was pretty sure Rudolph was holding the offense back, but then Hodges comes in and lo and behold, he is stuck holding the ball because no one is open. I don't know if that results from scheme or athleticism, but it was painful to watch.
The Steelers are what they are, regardless of who the QB is. Hell, at this point, I'm not sure Ben would have much more success if the play calling sucks and guys can't get open. My guess is he would have a lot of short completions. Guess we will see next week who starts and what comes of it. I don't much care who it is, I just hope they light it up. Not holding my breath though.
I was ready to see Hodges three weeks ago. That said, I don't think either QB is a "better option" unless and until the play calling vastly improves. I think Randy Fichtner is the biggest hinderance to this offense, well before the offensive line, WR's and QB's.
I think both Rudolph and Hodges are better than what they have shown. I was pretty sure Rudolph was holding the offense back, but then Hodges comes in and lo and behold, he is stuck holding the ball because no one is open. I don't know if that results from scheme or athleticism, but it was painful to watch.
The Steelers are what they are, regardless of who the QB is. Hell, at this point, I'm not sure Ben would have much more success if the play calling sucks and guys can't get open. My guess is he would have a lot of short completions. Guess we will see next week who starts and what comes of it. I don't much care who it is, I just hope they light it up. Not holding my breath though.
THIS is true Sarge .........
But see you can't take away one of his good plays. It is window dressing an outcome. One QB was responsible for 13 points the other 3. And that is the bottom line.13 points in a half of game play isn't offensive futility either.
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Run blocking has been poor, but the pass protection has been adequate and the receivers are getting open more than you think. The QBs just aren't making the plays.
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How about, Mason just isn’t that good. Why the need to find scape goats?
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I blame a lack of better play calling and protection adjustments couple that with a shell shocked Mason and it was becoming a recipe for disaster. They brought Mason back too soon and may have ruined him.FIchtners game day playcalling has been worse than awful and Masons hesitancy magnified it. Maybe if we leave Duck back there and have a little confidence plus better mobility we could score a few points at least. I would absolutely not start Mason against the Turds for multiple reasons.
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This! They need a true #1 WR to improve their receiving corps, then put JuJu in the slot.
Also can Fitchner, Ben and that *** AB carried his ****** offense until this year
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Seriously it's the bungles. This is one of the worst teams in their history... think about that for a second. One of the worst teams in the bungles history. They have a rookie QB, no Green, no Kirkpatrick, and an offense that is ranked 30th in points and a defense ranked 28th in points given up. They might not win a game all year.
Barely beating this team is not a good sign. And if not for the refs it would have been a nail biter. That first PI call was bogus.
Barely beating this team is not a good sign. And if not for the refs it would have been a nail biter. That first PI call was bogus.
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Yes, the offense has problems everywhere. The line is not run or pass blocking well, the WRs are suspect, the RBs are average and/or banged up, and the play calling is questionable. But dammit, Rudolph has regressed drastically. He's stone foot, questioning his own judgement, and he hurts the team because he's a turnover waiting to happen. At this moment, he's Kent freaking Graham. He's a liability back there. Sure, Hodges is no barn burner either, but he at least provides some kind of enthusiasm and a bit more mobility. Look, once Ben went down, we all knew the season was blown up. There is no harm in putting Mason on the bench now for however many weeks. Mason probably shouldn't face the Browns again this year anyway given what happen last week. But he's playing even worse than that now. Run with the Duck until that doesn't work either. Hopefully they can get Ju Ju back and get some kind of consistency going.
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You guys are funny.
Take away the 1 big play, Duck was actually just a touch worse than Rudolph. You guys do realize he was 5 for 11, yes?
Now, before you go thinking I'm a Rudolph guy, I want to be clear, it just seems that Duck is simply as bad as Rudolph, not that Rudolph is vastly better.
Take away the 1 big play, Duck was actually just a touch worse than Rudolph. You guys do realize he was 5 for 11, yes?
Now, before you go thinking I'm a Rudolph guy, I want to be clear, it just seems that Duck is simply as bad as Rudolph, not that Rudolph is vastly better.
Watching Rudolph try to jump throw passes ala Tebow in his heyday is akin to watching Korky throw an out route from the pocket. Same result. We suck guys. And it’s not getting better until shades marches the sidelines in wash. This team needs an enema.
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It was his only good play. Let's not pretend that this guy is the next Tom Brady if only Tomlin would just play him. Face it, the Steelers just suck on offense, and Devlin Hodges isn't going to ride in on some white horse and save the season. It was a lucky play. Why do I say that? Because the rest of his game looked just like Rudolph. If you wanna hang your hat on Hodges, be my guest. Personally, I think he gives the Steelers a slightly better chance because of his mobility, but most of what he did today was pedestrian.
And he was responsible for 7 points. The rest was running the damn ball. Yeah, he was the QB but best I can tell, the difference is he threw it away with style.
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The defense is saving whatever there is to save of the season, which is a shot at the 6th seed because the AFC outright sucks this year. They just need a guy on offense that isn't going to kill them. Mason was killing them. Hodges is all they have.
I’m not putting Duck in the Hall of Fame...I’m just saying he is more comfortable in the pocket, more confident and more mobile. Mason’s tendency to underthrow receivers somewhat regularly is also troubling.
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Really? If that's the case, this team is ******. Seriously. Guy goes 5-11, 118 and a TD with 79 of those yards coming on 1 damn play and this is somehow seen as better. I guess it is. He threw a TD pass. Man, there are going to be a ton of disappointed Steelers fans regardless of who starts.
The problem is coaching.
Ben learned enough under Cowher/Whisenhunt etc to cover for any of Tomlin’s goofs.
Now that Tomlin has more of a hand on the roster, the inability to groom a QB is evident.
Hodges is similar to Ben in terms of freestyle play, but still lacks the vision for reads. Rudolph is just flat out hesitant.
I honestly don’t know what to make. I’ll say is if Hodges is the guy moving forward, he’s capable of giving us those freak touchdowns like today with Washington’s big play.
Ben learned enough under Cowher/Whisenhunt etc to cover for any of Tomlin’s goofs.
Now that Tomlin has more of a hand on the roster, the inability to groom a QB is evident.
Hodges is similar to Ben in terms of freestyle play, but still lacks the vision for reads. Rudolph is just flat out hesitant.
I honestly don’t know what to make. I’ll say is if Hodges is the guy moving forward, he’s capable of giving us those freak touchdowns like today with Washington’s big play.
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One more TD than Rudolph threw and regardless of results, sometimes it only matters what the opponent thinks. I think teams need to respect Duck’s arm and won’t crowd the line as much as when Rudolph is in. Also, Duck can move out of the pocket where Rudolph is a statue. No ones saying Duck is a HOF QB, he’s just better than Rudolph.
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