Promising Prospects: Devin Bush

[Steeler Nation]

The Steelers have major decisions to make with the draft coming up. And one player, in particular, to keep an eye out for is the linebacker, Devin Bush. Bush has had an incredible football history while playing in Michigan and will have no problem adjusting to the NFL. * A key point in Michigan’s defense […]

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[bermudasteel]

The article has me hyped on this kid. Yes, even more than Mack Wilson...

 

[Roy92040]

I like the guy. I watched his highlight video and his motor is always running. From one side of the field to the other. Hard hitter too. I would like to see this guy in black and gold.

 

[slashsteel]

The article has me hyped on this kid. Yes, even more than Mack Wilson...

Oh definitely for two reasons.


1 Alabama prospects a decent amount have reached their ceiling due to excellent coaching /program and then bust out. Some make it obviously but have to keep that in mind.

2 Was said Wilson started to fade down the stretch. ( I would have to look closer to lock that opinion in ......anyways)

I think Bush is a safer prospect, a playmaker too.

 

[ZACKB]

I'd taken him rd 2 with a pick we get for AB. Too light for rd 1, gets swallowed up by blocks. I'd like to go Byron Murphy, then Bush, then Ferguson..ideal draft for me assuming Devin White is gone.

 

[slashsteel]

I'd taken him rd 2 with a pick we get for AB. Too light for rd 1, gets swallowed up by blocks. I'd like to go Byron Murphy, then Bush, then Ferguson..ideal draft for me assuming Devin White is gone.

I am leaning to Murphy as my favorite. I think White will be gone without a trade up.

 

[Trecampbell]

I'd taken him rd 2 with a pick we get for AB. Too light for rd 1, gets swallowed up by blocks. I'd like to go Byron Murphy, then Bush, then Ferguson..ideal draft for me assuming Devin White is gone.

This is my ideal 3 round draft as well, but knowing ya we’ll take someone projected to go in rd3.. a project with a ton of upside, but raw like Burns and Edmunds. I guess I’m just used to being disappointed seeing players we should draft get passed over for a late 2nd day project player

 

[Coach]

I am leaning to Murphy as my favorite. I think White will be gone without a trade up.

If Murphy has a good combine/pro day, he could go in the top 12. I tend to think White stock has dropped a little, but think he'll be gone before pick #20.

 

[TDX27]

If Bush tests good, not great, at the combine, he will be gone in the 1st and many are saying with a good combine, he will be gone before we pick. That sucks because that means White, the best ILB in the draft, will be long gone as well. Some recent mocks were showing us taking White, which I thought was a pipe dream at 1.20. Since ILB is our No. 1 need, if Bush is there, you take him. If not, you can hope for Wilson in the 2nd or reach for him in Rd. 1. If they do nothing again at ILB in FA, then they damn well better consider anything, even a reach for Wilson in Rd. 1. They can't go 2 years without addressing Shazier's glaring spot in the middle of the field.

 

[Vader]

If Bush tests good, not great, at the combine, he will be gone in the 1st and many are saying with a good combine, he will be gone before we pick. That sucks because that means White, the best ILB in the draft, will be long gone as well. Some recent mocks were showing us taking White, which I thought was a pipe dream at 1.20. Since ILB is our No. 1 need, if Bush is there, you take him. If not, you can hope for Wilson in the 2nd or reach for him in Rd. 1. If they do nothing again at ILB in FA, then they damn well better consider anything, even a reach for Wilson in Rd. 1. They can't go 2 years without addressing Shazier's glaring spot in the middle of the field.

Reaching for players is what got them into this mess to start with. The draft is where you find talent. FA is where you fill holes. They "needed" an OLB so they drafted Jones and Bud. Sometimes talent and need match but when they don't you go with talent in the draft. If not you end up drafting the same position over and over again.

 

[Superman]

in looking back at the 2011 draft, when we drafted Durpee, the talent drafted after him is about the same as what we chose.

Quick review, we could have had Shane Ray instead, and there's a major drop off statistically between those two. We could have had Damarious Randall or Landon Collins, but at that time it seems we were banking on Cortez Allen developing and Cockrell seemed to have found a home. I'm not saying Durpee was the right pick, considering the state of our secondary now, but it seems he met the BPA metric we had at that time.

 

[TDX27]

Reaching for players is what got them into this mess to start with. The draft is where you find talent. FA is where you fill holes. They "needed" an OLB so they drafted Jones and Bud. Sometimes talent and need match but when they don't you go with talent in the draft. If not you end up drafting the same position over and over again.

No not really. They supposedly had high grades on their picks. Their judgement was more the issue than just reaching for a need.

 

[Vader]

No not really. They supposedly had high grades on their picks. Their judgement was more the issue than just reaching for a need.

Teams "judgment" seem to always correlate with their "needs"... funny that. Nobody knows what the board looks like nor how it is put together. So how much does need play a role? Nobody knows.

 

[TDX27]

Teams "judgment" seem to always correlate with their "needs"... funny that. Nobody knows what the board looks like nor how it is put together. So how much does need play a role? Nobody knows.

Not ours. They thought Jarvis was going to be great yet he was slow as ****. They didn't even seem to care that he was the 2nd slowest OLB in the draft. They rated Burns real high as well. He showed promise in his 1st year but then let things get to his head. Dude can't keep his eyes out of the backfield and our coaches have sucked so they have no idea how to coach or help him.

They usually go for BPA but BPA at areas of need first. Like, they obviously wouldn't have taken a top RB a few years ago as they didn't need one.

 

[Vader]

Not ours. They thought Jarvis was going to be great yet he was slow as ****. They didn't even seem to care that he was the 2nd slowest OLB in the draft. They rated Burns real high as well. He showed promise in his 1st year but then let things get to his head. Dude can't keep his eyes out of the backfield and our coaches have sucked so they have no idea how to coach or help him.

They usually go for BPA but BPA at areas of need first. Like, they obviously wouldn't have taken a top RB a few years ago as they didn't need one.

I know Jones was high on their boards but they can see speed times as well. So did they elevate him based on their need for an OLB?

I have no issues with not taking certain positions (kicker, LS, punter ETC) but with your every down players you should always go BPA. If you don't then you end up filling positions but not with talent. After the 3rd round you can draft need all you want because it's mostly guess work after that anyway. But the 1st-3rd round you need the best players.

 

[Coach]

Not ours. They thought Jarvis was going to be great yet he was slow as ****. They didn't even seem to care that he was the 2nd slowest OLB in the draft. They rated Burns real high as well. He showed promise in his 1st year but then let things get to his head. Dude can't keep his eyes out of the backfield and our coaches have sucked so they have no idea how to coach or help him.

They usually go for BPA but BPA at areas of need first. Like, they obviously wouldn't have taken a top RB a few years ago as they didn't need one.

The Jarvis Jones pick really ticked me off. I did not like Ziggy Hood one Iota, curiously enough the legendary TMC, who's more than welcome to make a cameo here did. I enjoyed reading TMC's stuff even if I disagreed with it.


As for Burns, he might not have it upstairs top play cornerback. He's lost in zones and his confidence is completely shot.

 

[slashsteel]

The Jarvis Jones pick really ticked me off. I did not like Ziggy Hood one Iota, curiously enough the legendary TMC, who's more than welcome to make a cameo here did. I enjoyed reading TMC's stuff even if I disagreed with it.


As for Burns, he might not have it upstairs top play cornerback. He's lost in zones and his confidence is completely shot.

You will never hold a candle to his evals, but keep poking that finger.

 

[stuntmanmike]

He’s not all that he’s a lot like the dude browns drafted... the tes in nfl are like battleship destroyers and they are killing defenses at will. And teams like the Steelers have been very slow to adapt to stopping them. To draft bush is to be totally ignorant to trying to negate other teams tes. I can’t watch another steeler midget like sharknado or Hilton or add bush to the junk heap, trying to defend against gonk.

 

[Vader]

Bush is 5'11 234 Lbs. He'll get eaten alive inside. Just to put that in perspective Shazier was 2" taller, faster and was about the same weight. He struggled to get off blocks and over ran a ton of plays. Bush looks maxed out (body wise). How is he going to match up against big TEs? Hell even small TEs are going to engulf him. I understand Tomlin loves these small fast ILBs, however you need someone who will hold up and also stop the run.

I watch every OSU game and I know there are tons of Big Ten homers on here. I just think ILB is going to be a tough transition.

 

[mightyguru]

To me, Bush is a smaller, quicker version of Vince Williams. Not what we need, imho. He's an under-sized run-stuffer. Was he ever asked to cover WRs, TEs or RBs out of the backfield at Michigan?

Enlighten me.

 

[ark steel]

To me, Bush is a smaller, quicker version of Vince Williams. Not what we need, imho. He's an under-sized run-stuffer. Was he ever asked to cover WRs, TEs or RBs out of the backfield at Michigan?

Enlighten me.

I don't know who he was covering or in what games they occurred but, over the last two years he had 1 int (in 2017) and 13 passes defended (8 in 2017 and 5 in 2018).

 

[mightyguru]

I don't know who he was covering or in what games they occurred but, over the last two years he had 1 int (in 2017) and 13 passes defended (8 in 2017 and 5 in 2018).

The defended passes seems decent enough. He has similar cone drill scores to White. I don't know...we just can't afford another early round defensive bust.

 

[Superman]

how did we go from Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley - two good sized LBs who could handle their own - to liking smaller LBs? Shazier may have weighed 225 at the start of the season, but I find it hard to believe he was that much at the end of any season. Speed kills, and Shazier had plenty of it, and we were getting raped by teams attacking our slower LBs when Shazier went out. But, Shazier was also being ran on.

If we have a nose tackle worth a ****, our inside LBs would be much better. even smaller, quicker LBs would look quicker.