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Pro football talk, final power rankings for all 32 teams

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This really pisses me off, but I cannot disagree with where they place the Steelers. Maybe I'd argue we are two spots higher. Then again when you consider the end of the season collapse spot 15 sound about right. The Steelers failed to beat three below.500 teams, a Tomlin hallmark.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/05/final-2018-power-rankings/


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1. Patriots (14-5; final regular-season ranking No. 4): They’ll still be here, for maybe another year. Or two.
2. Saints (14-4; No. 1): They would have scored more than three points in the Super Bowl.
3. Rams (15-4; No. 2): Jared Goff holding the ball for too long when Brandin Cooks was wide-*** open could eventually prompt the Rams to find a new quarterback.
4. Chiefs (13-5; No. 5): They would have scored more than 13 points in the Super Bowl.
5. Eagles (10-8; No. 14): A healthy and maturing Carson Wentz could be the difference.
6. Chargers (13-5; No. 6): Anthony Lynn is the most underrated coach in football.
7. Cowboys (11-7; No. 12): Jerry Jones thinks five teams would have offered Jason Garrett their head-coaching jobs in January. It’s unclear whether the Cowboys would have been one of them.
8. Colts (11-7; No. 10): Many will peg them as a potential banner-raising AFC finalist for 2019.
9. Bears (12-5; No. 3): They’ll catch no one by surprise next season.
10. Ravens (10-7; No. 8): Can Lamar Jackson be healthy and effective for a full season?
11. Seahawks (10-7; No. 9): If 2018 was a return to 2012, will 2019 be a return to 2013?
12. Texans (11-6; No. 7): Forget about not being able to get past the Patriots; the Texans suddenly have a Colts problem.
13. Titans (9-7; No. 11): Is Marcus Mariota the long-term answer in Nashville?
14. Vikings (8-7-1; No. 13): Maybe they could send Kirk Cousins to Nashville.
15. Steelers (9-6-1; No. 15): Maybe they could send Antonio Brown to Nashville. Or anywhere.
16. Browns (7-8-1; No. 16): If the new coach can’t continue the trend that got him the job, he won’t have it for long.
17. Panthers (7-9; No. 21): A disastrous stretch turned a playoff team into an also-ran. Next year, much more will be expected.
18. Falcons (7-9; No. 22): The window is still open, but they’re getting farther away from hitting it.
19. Dolphins (7-9; No. 20): If they can get a quarterback who can play well and stay healthy, they could make things interesting in the AFC East.
20. Washington (7-9; No. 19): But for an unexpected run of success early in the year, they’d be a lot lower.
21. Packers (6-9-1; No. 17): How bad would they be if they didn’t have Aaron Rodgers?
22. Lions (6-10; No. 27): Sometimes you need to take more than one step back to move two steps forward.
23. Bills (6-10; No. 26): Josh Allen was a pleasant surprise; what can they get out of him in year two?
24. Broncos (6-10; No. 18): Another losing season, and the greatest player in franchise history (turned G.M.) could be losing his job.
25. Giants (5-11; No. 23): With or without Eli, the Giants have a long way to go to contend in the division.
26. Raiders (4-12; No. 24): If they draft a quarterback in round one, Derek Carr will have one more year, at most.
27. Jaguars (5-11; No. 25): With a little discipline and a lot of quarterback, the Jaguars can move back toward the top of the conference.
28. Bengals (6-10; No. 28): This team makes Super Bowl LIII look like a funhouse wrapped in a rollercoaster.
29. 49ers (4-12; No. 29): The heat will begin to intensify in Santa Clara.
30. Buccaneers (5-11; No. 30): The Bucs will go boom or bust in 2019.
31. Jets (4-12; No. 31): Sam Darnold and Adam Gase working together will push this team in the right direction.
32. Cardinals (3-13; No. 32): If the Cardinals were an actual laboratory experiment, they’d clear the building and have a fire truck on standby.
 
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You understand Cowher often lost to sub .500 teams, right?
 
I just read a power ranking where the STEELERS were 15 but the Browns were 13, and I actually thought that was about right.....................



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PS power rankings don't mean ****...............................UNLESS we're leading it and it's for bragging rights.................even then questionable





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nothing to see her please disperse




YOU should be more specific on what it is we are to disperse, after all it is a "coach" thread.................???





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I love the Tomlin has lost to too many sub 500 team argument. Because the converse is also true:

Tomlin has one of the best records ever against teams over 500.
 
And that's exactly what is frustrating about Mike Tomlin.
 
I love the Tomlin has lost to too many sub 500 team argument. Because the converse is also true:

Tomlin has one of the best records ever against teams over 500.



When the colonist's "MINUTEMEN" of the revolutionary war fought at Lexington and then the WESTERN FRONT and then pearl harbor but the whole time they didn't care what their opponents records were...................................



Cope, this is what fuels that conversation, if he can beat the above .500 teams why the hell can't he beat the below .500 teams??? A true mystery but he consistently loses the below .500 really bad teams & pretty consistant wins on the above .500 great teams.




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Oh, who cares. He's a tool and he's not going anywhere. He's OUR tool.
 
Bill Cowher losses to ****** teams that finished sub .500

1992

Bears - Lost 30-6
Browns - Lost 17-9

1993

LA Rams 27-0
Browns 28-34
Seahawks 16-9

1994

Seahawks 30-13

1995

Jaguars 24-7 (expansion team)
Patriots 41-27
Ravens 31-17

1997

Cowboys 37-7
Eagles 23-20

1998 we sucked but

Lost to 3-13 Cincinnati 25-20
5-11 Lions


Skipping 99 cause we sucked still

2000

Browns 23-20
Jaguars 34-24

2001

Jaguars 21-3
Bengals 26-23

2002

24-6 Texans (expansion team)

2003

Browns 33-13
49ers 30-14
Jets 6-0

2005
Ravens 16-13

2006
Falcons 41-38
Raiders 20-13 (2-14 Raiders)

And we lost to around 10 8-8 teams.
 
Tomlins loses to sub .500 teams

2007


Broncos 31-28
Jets 19-16
Ravens 27-21

2008
None

2009

Bears 17-14
Chiefs 18-12
Raiders 27-24
Browns 13-6

2010

None

2011

None

2012

Raiders 34-31
Titans 26-23
Browns 20-14
Chargers 34-24

2013

Vikings 34-27
Raiders 21-18

2014

Buccaneers 27-24 (2-14)
Browns 31-10
Jets 20-13
Saints 35-32

2015
Baltimore 23-20
Baltimore 20-17

2016

Eagles 34-3

2017

Bears 23-17

2018

Denver 24-17
Raiders 24-21

Also lost to 6 teams that were 8-8
 
So I skipped an entire season of Cowher and they're almost at the same amount of loses to sub .500 season ending teams.

Also Cowher choked dicks at home in 4 AFC Championship games.

But yes pine for the days of Cowher. I just know I was ready for him to go when he finally left. Yinzers just forget.
 
Steelers will be power ranked 15 or below until one day when Tomlin is no longer the coach.
 
So I skipped an entire season of Cowher and they're almost at the same amount of loses to sub .500 season ending teams.

Also Cowher choked dicks at home in 4 AFC Championship games.

But yes pine for the days of Cowher. I just know I was ready for him to go when he finally left. Yinzers just forget.



I actually did the math a while back and Tomlin teams lose more often to sub .500 teams. There is a difference. Just like there is a difference between Ben and the jokers Cowher often had to play at quarterback in Tomzack, Stewart, Graham, and Miller. Going 9-7 to 11-5 with these guys is amazing coaching as your margin for error is zero and you're not equipped for a comeback if you get behind.


O'Donnell and Maddox were a little better, but hardly the type of QB ANY coach can win an AFC championship with. What did Bill Parcells do on Dallas, or Jimmy Johnson do on Miami with average QB's? See my point?
 
Parcells...unearthed Romo. Had Jerry stayed out of the way and not brought TO into Parcels locker room, Parcells probably would have had another SB contender.

Jimmy realized, he rather be on his boat and work 2 days a week for his pal Murdoch instead of grinding it with the new class of professional athlete 80 hours a week.


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I actually did the math a while back and Tomlin teams lose more often to sub .500 teams. There is a difference. Just like there is a difference between Ben and the jokers Cowher often had to play at quarterback in Tomzack, Stewart, Graham, and Miller. Going 9-7 to 11-5 with these guys is amazing coaching as your margin for error is zero and you're not equipped for a comeback if you get behind.


O'Donnell and Maddox were a little better, but hardly the type of QB ANY coach can win an AFC championship with. What did Bill Parcells do on Dallas, or Jimmy Johnson do on Miami with average QB's? See my point?

Cowher lost to just as many sub .500 teams.
 
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