Pouncey-DuPree-JJ-Ramon Foster...Steelers Weakness Per PFF

[Ike Kelly]

Didn't you say because we don't know what their grading formula was its trash!

Oh, there is more to it than just being correct in assignment, making a difference and carrying out your assignment successfully I would think is part of the grade too.

What I have been saying, but you ignore, is that PFF uses a proprietary evaluation formula. It is based upon what THEY believe is the correct assignment for any given play. Yet, how can they objectively rate an assignment for a player when they can't see or know what the coaches play call parameters were for the player at that given time? Their proprietary is subjective, based on their own opinion as to what a play assignment is if the player is performing that assignment successively. Not from what the coaches know at that given time, as they are looking at their opponents play calling to get a preferable match up. Unless PFF is listening on the play calls as they are decided and know why that play is being used, it’s all a guessing game.

Sure they can say, RT on this play, should do a kick out on this play and runs the DE up the circle. But they play call at that time was actually for the RT to hand off the DE to the TE who breaks his route to crack back a block while the RT handles the stunting LB. PFF is going to grade it wrong, where as the actual play was assignment sound by the RT from the coaches view. PFF didn’t know what the actual play call rationale was for that down and distance, because they are not using the coaches rationale, only their own.





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[SteelChip]

This article has Dupree, Hunter and Burns as our "weak links"

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/27/3-potential-weak-links-on-the-steelers-in-2018/

Beauty they say is in the eye of the beholder...but I agree with all three of these.

The debate seems to be with Burns. They say...

There are essentially two camps among fans when it comes to Artie Burns. Some call him a bust and others say he’s the best cornerback on the team. The truth probably falls somewhere in between. But that doesn’t change the fact that this season is going to be huge for him in terms of responsibility and how he handles that will significantly impact the entire team. The team has promised more man coverage this season and that will be the real test for Burns.

But I personalty haven't seen anything outta Burns that says #1 draft pick...jus sayin'

 

[Ike Kelly]

This article has Dupree, Hunter and Burns as our "weak links"

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/27/3-potential-weak-links-on-the-steelers-in-2018/

Beauty they say is in the eye of the beholder...but I agree with all three of these.

The debate seems to be with Burns. They say...



But I personalty haven't seen anything outta Burns that says #1 draft pick...jus sayin'

It’s year 3. Burns improvement ceiling should continue to get higher or he has already peaked.


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[Drink IRON City]

It’s year 3. Burns improvement ceiling should continue to get higher or he has already peaked.


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It's really hard to know when some players "PEAK" as in the William Gay case. He wasn't thought of very highly with his first stint here but then upon his return he was vastly improved. Sometimes it takes a :click light switch on: moment to happen.

Burns is going to improve this year with the betterment of safety play. Add in the new DB coach and I think he will improve.



Salute the nation

 

[stuntmanmike]

Burns and Davis both should improve with better coaching both have been inconsistent as all hell if they don’t its off the “bust” scrap heap... Dupree too...

 

[SteelChip]

Here's hopin' yinz are right

 

[Coryea]

Burns is very good in man to man coverage. That was why we drafted him, then proceeded to play more zone than any other team. Hard to put that against him, you're not going to draft a good pass catching TE, then try to use him as in an extra tackle in a power running game.

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[SteelerFan448]

It's really hard to know when some players "PEAK" as in the William Gay case. He wasn't thought of very highly with his first stint here but then upon his return he was vastly improved. Sometimes it takes a :click light switch on: moment to happen.

I don't think Gay improved in his one year in Arizona, but rather the coaching staff used him more appropriately in his second stint.

 

[Coach]

It’s year 3. Burns improvement ceiling should continue to get higher or he has already peaked.


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Should continue to get higher or has already peaked already. WOW. That about covers everything. Thanks for the insight, Ike.

Well, technically Burns could regress.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Should continue to get higher or has already peaked already. WOW. That about covers everything. Thanks for the insight, Ike.

Well, technically Burns could regress.

Well technically you are a idiot. Clinically speaking.

My Burns comment wasn’t insight, the above comment is.

It’s reported by coaches and pro personnel evaluators, if the player’s light bulb doesn’t click by the 3rd year (that’s a metaphor so this board’s clinical idiot understands), it probably won’t. Especially for coveted 1st rounders.


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[MTC]

Why a plovercrest and a canary who have mated of course!

Plenty+canary =plenaries.

Sounds like an std too.
Like "hey, last night I got the plenaries disease"

 

[black and gold apex]

Artie Burns, woa this was a wasted ranking story