Poor Officiating, Poor-Coaching, Poor-QB-Decision

[Steelerfan]

So glad we had a new thread for the original story link, instead of including it in the 100 other threads. Look at me!

 

[BAS]

I am not against the going for the win on 3rd down, but you have to play smart, Ben did not play smart at QB. One of the biggest complaints on Ben is his willingness to throw a ball into double and triple coverages, with a QB like that you win a few and lose a lot. What makes Ben special is exactly what causes these things to happen, you can't take the good and disregard the bad.

In the end, Ben should have thrown it away, but that is not what he does. He is an all or nothing QB, always has been. If he would have only modified his game years ago and accepted that a throw away is not the end of the world, I honestly believe he would have at least 1 more ring and 10-20 more wins, maybe even another 5000 yds.

I had no problem with going for it there either... EXCEPT -- Not a single player on the offense was on the same page for that last play.

When Eli Rogers is the ONLY receiver running a shallow cross pattern through traffic, with JuJu and Hey-Bey just looking on dumbfounded, with NO movement beyond the line of scrimmage -- there's NO WAY that Ben should have thrown that pass. That's entirely on him... no matter what he says about the call from the sideline.

He should have never answered that question that way. Just makes the whole situation worse.

 

[antdrewjosh]

I had no problem with going for it there either... EXCEPT -- Not a single player on the offense was on the same page for that last play.

When Eli Rogers is the ONLY receiver running a shallow cross pattern through traffic, with JuJu and Hey-Bey just looking on dumbfounded, with NO movement beyond the line of scrimmage -- there's NO WAY that Ben should have thrown that pass. That's entirely on him... no matter what he says about the call from the sideline.

He should have never answered that question that way. Just makes the whole situation worse.

Which has been my whole point. You cant Be Ben and make that throw and then turn around and say well i wanted to clock it. That's like doing a B&E with your friends, getting caught and then saying i didnt want to do it but standing there with the most stuff in your hands

 

[mightyguru]

With the limited amount of penalties called, it seems the fans and players got what they mostly wanted. The refs really didn't insert themselves into the game to the level you believe they did.

The overturned TD was the correct call on a bad, bad rule. Is that the refs fault? All TDs and Turnovers get reviewed automatically now. It wasn't NOT going to get reviewed. You MAY have had a case of inconclusive, but I'm sure the angles they saw 'under the hood' showed more than what they showed us on TV. It SUCKS, but it Is what it is.

The commentators always say that the refs get the same views we have on tv.

 

[madinsomniac]

Ben hates Haley and it shows more every day.... the reality was in first down you have the td... while the officials are huddling upfor like five minutes you have to get a strategy in case its overturned.... they did not... there should have been no question what they were going to do... having a play called where the second read was a short gainer in that situation was inexcusable.... but either A. They had the fake snap called and no one knew what was going on but eli.... and it was run to ELI RODGERS of all people... or B. The staff didn't call that play... they were trying to lay up and go into OT and the second down play was to run clock....

Either way they deserved to lose, because the whole second half the strategy was to play it safe.... with a one score lead...

 

[SteelerFan448]

With the limited amount of penalties called, it seems the fans and players got what they mostly wanted. The refs really didn't insert themselves into the game to the level you believe they did.

The overturned TD was the correct call on a bad, bad rule. Is that the refs fault? All TDs and Turnovers get reviewed automatically now. It wasn't NOT going to get reviewed. You MAY have had a case of inconclusive, but I'm sure the angles they saw 'under the hood' showed more than what they showed us on TV. It SUCKS, but it Is what it is.

Nope. They show the refs view under the hood on the scoreboard. They originally were looking to see if James was down by contact before crossing the goal line. After spending a considerable amount of time and about 4-5 angles, they switched to looking at the ball. After a few looks at it, the ref came out. There was nothing conclusive on the video to overturn the call on the field. If the original call on the field was incomplete, I'd also say there was nothing conclusive to overturn that call either. Should have been the call stands as called on the field.

Ben hates Haley and it shows more every day.... the reality was in first down you have the td... while the officials are huddling upfor like five minutes you have to get a strategy in case its overturned.... they did not... there should have been no question what they were going to do... having a play called where the second read was a short gainer in that situation was inexcusable.... but either A. They had the fake snap called and no one knew what was going on but eli.... and it was run to ELI RODGERS of all people... or B. The staff didn't call that play... they were trying to lay up and go into OT and the second down play was to run clock....

Either way they deserved to lose, because the whole second half the strategy was to play it safe.... with a one score lead...

I cannot stand this comment in any situation ever. They played ultra conservative in the second half, but that doesn't mean you deserve to lose, especially when you actually won the game. I don't know how Eli was the only one on the field to know what's going on. Ben made a tough throw, but the fact that not a single other receiver did anything on the play forced the issue. I wish he would have thrown it away in retrospect, but he thought he had a shot at a score. Unfortunately, it was Eli Rogers and not Le'Veon or JuJu running that route.

 

[topseed]

Can't blame Ben, We got beat by our own coaches last night. Period. New England is still laughing at the decision not to spike the ball. I really feel for our players, they played their hearts out and Tomlin and Haley lost it for them in the end.
Perfect example of how you beat your own team with poor coaching.
If Bill Bellichek was coaching us we win that game. Everyone knows this.
I can't stand Terry Bradshaw but he is right about Tomlin being a ****** coach.
I fully expected to lose this game until the end, when our own guys made sure we had no chance.
Disgusted but totally use to this feeling by now. OWNED AGAIN

It's been well-documented that I am not a Tomlin fan, but your post is ridiculous.

Tomlin had the Steelers up 8 points with 10 minutes left in the game, without 3 of his best players.

Tomlin didn't make Villanueva hold and negate a nine yard gain on first down, or commit a false start a few plays later.

Tomlin didn't drop a sure interception in field goal range with two minutes left.

Tomlin didn't throw an inexplicable ball into quintuple coverage after a fake spike to lose the game.


There were surely a few mistakes along the way, like the (non)coverage on Gronk, or not having two plays called at the end of the game after the long review, but completely blaming this loss on the coaching is nonsensical.