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Pickens being traded to Dallas?

SteveA said:
Let me clarify....If we started 0-8 then I would start rooting for us to go 0-17...But then I said for all the Tomlin haters it would not happen cause we would win 9 in a row...

But IF WE STARTED 0-8....Hell yeah I would want us to lose out
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I understand now and I wasn't really picking on you when I quoted you.

We seen this mentality from numerous posters, yes, the Tomlin haters. Oh well, I am not looking forward to this season at all.

Now watch them go and win 2 playoff games with this horrible roster...
 
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insaniti said:
Not to mention, the one play they love to bring up is from two ******* years ago. This is a dumb ******* move. We are worse now than last year. No QB, WR room ever weaker... I don't think we'll need much ammunition to move up in the draft. This is a 4 win roster right now.
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Yes… mission accomplished!
Can it be more obvious?!?
There is an engineering process in manufacturing called “ creative destruction “..the thought process is that you have to tear down a process to total failure to be able to fully understand what it will take to make it a world class process again.,
That’s exactly what their doing .,
And I totally get it and agree with the path forward..
 
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Avoid_Lloyd said:
I think a 3rd pick for Pickens is a steal for Dallas and someone else would have done before or during the draft.

If the front office didn’t realize that a 3rd is the best they could get and pull the trigger before or during the draft to get his replacement that is their failure to own, amount so many other failures
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The Steelers may have misplayed their hand, then again maybe Dallas just traded for a loose cannon who’s going to hold out for huge contract.
 
Troglodyte said:
The Steelers may have misplayed their hand, then again maybe Dallas just traded for a loose cannon who’s going to hold out for huge contract.
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I vote for the latter.
 
Phoenix1172 said:
Pickens must have done something post draft to force this move. Otherwise, I can't imagine them not drafting a WR.

Regardless, the Steelers are setting a bad precedent in my opinion for how to deal with bad behavior. Johnson and now Pickens act up to get moved from the team. Is this going to become the norm moving forward for everyone not happy on the roster?

Pickens was under contract and not owed a lot of money. Make him come back and play to earn his next big payday. If he threatened to sit out like Bell did, then let him. It didn't go well for Bell. Don't give him and get rid of people for less value than they are worth with nothing to show for it this year after trading a 2nd and paying the guy 150 mil to finally have two legit receivers.
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I put money on it that he hasn't reached out or said one word to DK and that was the last straw.
 
Avoid_Lloyd said:
This. Tomlin Fan Club President @SteelerInLebanon told anyone who suggested Pickens be traded they were dumb and falling into rumors for saying he was on the trade block and Pickens would have a peachy keen attitude this year playing on the last year of his rookie contract. He will deflect and make excuses like a punk but who cares

Idiot Tomlin does the trade after the draft so we now have a huge probably unrepairable hole in the WR room this year, bestest coach ever
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I didn't think they would. I am allowed to be wrong, no reason to be such douche bag about it, not that you can help it. I figured once he made it past the draft without being traded he was sticking around, and I am not the only one. I never said he WOULD have a better attitude I certainly hoped he would. Apparently, he was even more of a cancer than I thought. Pre-Draft I didn't think you would part with him for less than 2 good picks.
 
Troglodyte said:
The Steelers may have misplayed their hand, then again maybe Dallas just traded for a loose cannon who’s going to hold out for huge contract.
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Their record of trading receivers says they get more back than they usually give. E. Sanders may be the last receiver who left and did something afterwards.
 
The Steelers weren't going to re-sign Pickens and it appears they were fine getting a 3rd in 2026 rather than 2027 as a comp pick. I expect they are going to use these picks to maneuver a lot in this draft. I still think there is a plan and it's to set up a young QB.

WR is a huge hole right now and it'll be something they have to address, but there are some decent stopgaps out there.

Without another stud in Pickens, it really makes no sense to consider Rodgers anymore. The whole point of signing him would be to try to get a win the in Wild Card round. At this point, unless they can find a pretty good WR, stick with Mason and get 5-8 wins and in better position for a QB in 2026.
 
SteveA said:
Let me clarify....If we started 0-8 then I would start rooting for us to go 0-17...But then I said for all the Tomlin haters it would not happen cause we would win 9 in a row...

But IF WE STARTED 0-8....Hell yeah I would want us to lose out....
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I just never advocate wanting to lose. Losers lose. Winners win. If it happened it is out of our control but the team has no guarantee that they can rebound or that will bring about change. Or that they will pick the right QB and develop him. Plus I simply despise losing. The team has already been embarrassing enough. I have no desire to see them be a worse version. That isn’t entertaining that just is inviting suck. Never that.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I didn't think they would. I am allowed to be wrong, no reason to be such douche bag about it, not that you can help it. I figured once he made it past the draft without being traded he was sticking around, and I am not the only one. I never said he WOULD have a better attitude I certainly hoped he would. Apparently, he was even more of a cancer than I thought. Pre-Draft I didn't think you would part with him for less than 2 good picks.
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Here’s what you said:

“They never intended to trade Pickens. That was entirely a creation of the media and fans.”

Nice revisionism. Care to admit the front office botched this? I doubt it
 
Pickens was going to be a #2 receiver here. He didn't respond well last year with limited touches as the #1 WR. Anyone think he would be cool with DK being the #1?

Pickens going into the last year of his rookie deal, having to take a back seat to someone else in the year that determines his net contract value ... that's a recipe for weekly tantrums. They don't need that and they weren't going to re-sign him at the end of the year.They couldn't afford to pay him what he will want while slotting him as a #2.

Funny part here is Dallas can't afford to re-Sign him next season either. Dak and Lamb will take up about $110M next season for just 2 players. They will be looking for money under couch cushions. So basically, this looks like Dallas just gave up a 3rd round pick for a one year rental player.

If I'm right on the numbers then Dallas paid a pretty good price for a limited window asset. And Pickens will be a distant #2 behind Lamb in Dallas too. I just don't see him growing up and towing the line this season as a sidekick option.
 
maowv said:
Pickens was going to be a #2 receiver here. He didn't respond well last year with limited touches as the #1 WR. Anyone think he would be cool with DK being the #1?

Pickens going into the last year of his rookie deal, having to take a back seat to someone else in the year that determines his net contract value ... that's a recipe for weekly tantrums. They don't need that and they weren't going to re-sign him at the end of the year.They couldn't afford to pay him what he will want while slotting him as a #2.

Funny part here is Dallas can't afford to re-Sign him next season either. Dak and Lamb will take up about $110M next season for just 2 players. They will be looking for money under couch cushions. So basically, this looks like Dallas just gave up a 3rd round pick for a one year rental player.

If I'm right on the numbers then Dallas paid a pretty good price for a limited window asset. And Pickens will be a distant #2 behind Lamb in Dallas too. I just don't see him growing up and toeing the line this season as a sidekick option.
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Oh I think they have plenty of money to afford him, they just had no intention to throw money at him.

If they would have traded him during the draft I wouldn’t have blinked. Or fortified the room I wouldn’t have blinked. Their timing sucked and their evaluation and follow through sucked.

But here we are…
 
They got their bones picked on Pickens there is no question about that. Claypool had cracks in the facade but with AB they let the foundation crumble. What I always say. Tomlin gets credit for "handling" problem children when he should have cut baut at max value. He knows the guy is an *******.
 
None of it really matters outside of the fact that if the other players on the team didn't like or respect him (according to what guys like Williamson, Fittapaldo and DK are saying)...think about that a minute...NFL players are like women, they always support each other regardless. Something had to be done.

Whether they screwed this up or not, who knows? It has to play out. If George Pickens is like Cris Carter or something, maybe the Steelers will regret the move. But he doesn't seem like a guy who is gonna get it.
 
diver said:
None of it really matters outside of the fact that if the other players on the team didn't like or respect him (according to what guys like Williamson, Fittapaldo and DK are saying)...think about that a minute...NFL players are like women, they always support each other regardless. Something had to be done.

Whether they screwed this up or not, who knows? It has to play out. If George Pickens is like Cris Carter or something, maybe the Steelers will regret the move. But he doesn't seem like a guy who is gonna get it.
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You should probably stop for the night and wipe that stuff from Tomlin off your chin

None of it matters because players didn’t like him??? Good lord your apologist bullshit is pathetic. It’s a professional team not little league. They blew this

On separate but hilarious note you think women always support each other regardless??? Bahahaha if that’s your level of understanding of women I bet it’s lonely at your house
 
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SteelerInLebanon said:
I didn't think they would. I am allowed to be wrong, no reason to be such douche bag about it, not that you can help it. I figured once he made it past the draft without being traded he was sticking around, and I am not the only one. I never said he WOULD have a better attitude I certainly hoped he would. Apparently, he was even more of a cancer than I thought. Pre-Draft I didn't think you would part with him for less than 2 good picks.
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You have been wrong about a bunch the last few years while bashing the "Tomlin Haters" along the way.

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oneforthebus said:
Totally agree. Everyone acting like that kind of talent is a dime a dozen, it isn’t. If nothing else make him earn his FA worth next year. Unless there’s something we don’t know. “He won’t block”. So what? Throw him the effing ball.
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Yep. And yes, the Warren goal line non-block was a fiasco but I remember a dozen times Pickens absolutely manhandled a CB when blocking on a running play, including numerous pancake blocks.

So let's not pretend his talent is 3rd round caliber. Look at it this way - the Steelers spent a 2nd on him in the draft, and he has produced at a very high level his first 3 seasons, including 63 catches, 1140 yards, 5 TD's and an NFL-best 18.1 YPR with Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph as his QB's. Dude has not declined in value by putting up 2841 receiving yards and 16.3 YPR his first three seasons.
 
Glad he is gone. Wish they had gotten more for him.

Hate it when Steeler Gfans fight with steeler fans but it is the off season norm
 
I might be wrong, but I think ownership has too much money invested in this team to tank. Tomlin isn't going to buy into that either. Pickens must have done something extremely stupid, even for him, to get traded at this point.

They don't trade for DK and they don't decide not to draft a WR high if they planned on trading Pickens at this point in the season I would think. The team needs a second proven top tier WR to go with DK. Nobody currently on the roster has proven they are that type of player. I still think they feel Rodgers will sign before training camp. If so, I don't see how this helps regardless.

Now watch them make a desperation trade for another WR before the season and give up a 2nd or higher to get one that might not be any better than Pickens was but have to pay him 30 mil a year.

At least we didn't have to read multiple articles about the Steelers trading for every disgruntled number 1 receiver in the NFL for a short time since DK was acquired . Now the "sports writers" will be able to write two articles a day. One about our QB situation and one about our future WR.
 
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