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Overall Playoff Picture -- last night was important.

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With the way that Jacksonville has been surging, last night might have been the most important win of the season.
  • It secured the AFC North and maintained the advantage for the bye week.


The 2017 Steelers are trailing only the 1975 and 2004 teams and tied with the 1978 and 2001 teams through 13 games. The 4 best regular seasons in franchise history.

It would have shattered the team to lose the bye week with a loss to the Ravens and the difficult match-up vs. the Patriots looming.

But this team continues it's progression -- and personally, I'm impressed with their resolve. They may not be dominating teams, but they don't succumb to pressure.

It marked this groups 4th straight playoff appearance and 3rd Division Championship. They've advanced each year:
  • 2014 - 1st AFC North Championship
  • 2015 - 1st Playoff win (on road); were a fumble away from beating Denver and advancing to AFC Championship (with Bell, Brown, Ben hurt)
  • 2016 - 2nd AFC North Championship, won WC, won Divisional on road - Advanced to AFC Championship
  • 2017 - ?


Getting that bye week is crucial -- even if it is the #2 seed. In fact, in some years the #2 seed is the more preferable seed based on how the WC round plays out -- it's impossible to know now, but often works out that way.

For what its worth, historically the Steelers with #1 or #2 seed
#1 Seed -
  1. 9-4 playoff record, 2-0 in Super Bowls
  2. 1975 - Won Super Bowl
  3. 1978 - Won Super Bowl
  4. 1992 - Lost Divisional
  5. 1994 - Lost AFC Championship
  6. 2001 - Lost AFC Championship
  7. 2004 - Lost AFC Championship


#2 Seed: 11-3 playoff record, 2-1 in Super Bowls
  1. 1979 - Won Super Bowl (3-0)
  2. 1995 - Lost Super Bowl (2-1)
  3. 1997 - Lost AFC Championship (1-1)
  4. 2008 - Won Super Bowl (3-0)
  5. 2010 - Lost Super Bowl (2-1)
 
FSF said:
With the way that Jacksonville has been surging, last night might have been the most important win of the season.
  • It secured the AFC North and maintained the advantage for the bye week.


The 2017 Steelers are trailing only the 1975 and 2004 teams and tied with the 1978 and 2001 teams through 13 games. The 4 best regular seasons in franchise history.

It would have shattered the team to lose the bye week with a loss to the Ravens and the difficult match-up vs. the Patriots looming.

But this team continues it's progression -- and personally, I'm impressed with their resolve. They may not be dominating teams, but they don't succumb to pressure.

It marked this groups 4th straight playoff appearance and 3rd Division Championship. They've advanced each year:
  • 2014 - 1st AFC North Championship
  • 2015 - 1st Playoff win (on road); were a fumble away from beating Denver and advancing to AFC Championship (with Bell, Brown, Ben hurt)
  • 2016 - 2nd AFC North Championship, won WC, won Divisional on road - Advanced to AFC Championship
  • 2017 - ?


Getting that bye week is crucial -- even if it is the #2 seed. In fact, in some years the #2 seed is the more preferable seed based on how the WC round plays out -- it's impossible to know now, but often works out that way.

For what its worth, historically the Steelers with #1 or #2 seed
#1 Seed -
  1. 9-4 playoff record, 2-0 in Super Bowls
  2. 1975 - Won Super Bowl
  3. 1978 - Won Super Bowl
  4. 1992 - Lost Divisional
  5. 1994 - Lost AFC Championship
  6. 2001 - Lost AFC Championship
  7. 2004 - Lost AFC Championship


#2 Seed: 11-3 playoff record, 2-1 in Super Bowls
  1. 1979 - Won Super Bowl (3-0)
  2. 1995 - Lost Super Bowl (2-1)
  3. 1997 - Lost AFC Championship (1-1)
  4. 2008 - Won Super Bowl (3-0)
  5. 2010 - Lost Super Bowl (2-1)
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Looks like the number two seed had better results in the more recent time frame.

Which seems like the more realistic, result.

Although NE beat the Steelers twice last year, I wouldn't mind returning the favor.
 
So are we trying to figure which team has the best chance at knocking off the Pats? I think the Jags can do it if their pass rush can get to him.
 
Spike said:
So are we trying to figure which team has the best chance at knocking off the Pats? I think the Jags can do it if their pass rush can get to him.
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The playoff seeding is often skewed as a team winning a Division is seeded higher than a Wild Card team. For example; the 2005 Steelers were a #6 seed only by a tie-breaker but were the best team of the 2005 Wild Card round and far tougher matchup than the Colts would have wanted.

In 2004 - the #1 seed worked in our favor with the Jets while the Patriots had to face a better team in the Colts.
In 2008 - the #2 seed worked in our favor playing the 8-8 Chargers while the #1 seeded Titans were ousted by the Ravens.

It can go either way, but getting the bye is important. Take 2015 - Bell was already out, but the Bengals game saw Ben get hurt and knocked Antonio Brown and DeAngelo Williams out of the Divisional round vs. Denver.
 
I think the chargers have the best shot at beating NE. Jax and Balt don't have the offense. Chargers D has been playing well and with Rivers the offense always has a shot. They also played them close earlier this year.
 
The way i see it now....

#1 seed will get Chargers
#2 will get JAX.

I'd prefer to face Bortels over Rivers in the playoffs.
 
Doesn't anyone remember what happened for us the year after we lost to the cheats Ben's rookie year? Man you ******* are making me start to sound like Coolie..
 
with how it looks now, at this time of night, we'll be the #1 seed going into our game next week with New England.
 
GILBERT said:
The way i see it now....

#1 seed will get Chargers
#2 will get JAX.

I'd prefer to face Bortels over Rivers in the playoffs.
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I've wondered the same thing. That lousy start is masking just how well they are playing now. One of their few losses, the Patriots were VERY fortunate to win.
 
Superman said:
with how it looks now, at this time of night, we'll be the #1 seed going into our game next week with New England.
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No **** Sherlock............. Dang you are smart.!!!! Oh and you forgot to mention that coming out of next week's game against the cheaters............ We will still be #1 seed. Thank You



Salute the nation
 
With the Pats loss, it's now possible the Jags could get the 2 seed and the Pats have to play wildcard weekend.

If Pitt wins out, Jags win out, and NE loses to Pitt then wins their last 2, we would have

1 Pitt 14-2
2 Jacksonville 12-4 and 10--2 vs AFC
3 New England 12-4 and 9-3 vs AFC

Jags and NE did not play head to head so i believe that AFc record is the first tiebreaker that would apply

Remaining Schedules
Pitt - NE, @Hou, Clev
NE - @Pitt, Buf, Jets
Jax - Hou, @SF, @Tenn

If the Steelers can beat NE next week, this scenario could very well happen.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
With the Pats loss, it's now possible the Jags could get the 2 seed and the Pats have to play wildcard weekend.

If Pitt wins out, Jags win out, and NE loses to Pitt then wins their last 2, we would have

1 Pitt 14-2
2 Jacksonville 12-4 and 10--2 vs AFC
3 New England 12-4 and 9-3 vs AFC

Jags and NE did not play head to head so i believe that AFc record is the first tiebreaker that would apply

Remaining Schedules
Pitt - NE, @Hou, Clev
NE - @Pitt, Buf, Jets
Jax - Hou, @SF, @Tenn

If the Steelers can beat NE next week, this scenario could very well happen.
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It could also happen with us losing to Patriots win the last two and patriots lose to Bills with Jax winning out.
 
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start a new thread next week
 
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