Open Discussion on Kaperdick workout.

[Tibs]

It's sad politics plays such a heavy role in professional sports. Kaepernick is probably 2x better than Rudolph & Duck combined, the second he'd step on the field. But the man has an opinion on social issues, gasp. God forbid he says whatever the **** he wants in this Constitutional democracy. Who cares what his political opinions are? Are we in North Korea or China, where a man can't voice his opinion? Having said that, who knows how he'd fare on the field at this stage, with NFL defenses all up in his face. But that's not the point, is it. The problem is he's been blackballed for nearly three years. It ain't right. If he can play, let the man play. If he can't, he'll join the thousands of former players that have petered-out of the league.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow a brilliantly powerful 90 second interview by <a href="https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Kaepernick7</a> <br><br>He stands up for media—who has been constantly attacked just for doing their jobs—& demands transparency & fairness. Excellently said. <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/rMl9wvK37I">pic.twitter.com/rMl9wvK37I</a></p>— Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@QasimRashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1195852894601449474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[Steelin]

I don't give a **** what he says. It would be great if he'd do it on his own time though. Pushing an agenda during games only shows that it is a weak agenda(s?) that dont stand on their own.

 

[jitter77]

So he had 20 some teams interested. 30 mins before he is scheduled decides to change time and location of the workout. Obviously the whole thing was just a PR move and im sure he pissed alot of teams off

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

It's sad politics plays such a heavy role in professional sports. Kaepernick is probably 2x better than Rudolph & Duck combined, the second he'd step on the field. But the man has an opinion on social issues, gasp. God forbid he says whatever the **** he wants in this Constitutional democracy. Who cares what his political opinions are? Are we in North Korea or China, where a man can't voice his opinion? Having said that, who knows how he'd fare on the field at this stage, with NFL defenses all up in his face. But that's not the point, is it. The problem is he's been blackballed for nearly three years. It ain't right. If he can play, let the man play. If he can't, he'll join the thousands of former players that have petered-out of the league.

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Wow a brilliantly powerful 90 second interview by @Kaepernick7

He stands up for media—who has been constantly attacked just for doing their jobs—& demands transparency & fairness. Excellently said.

pic.twitter.com/rMl9wvK37I
— Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@QasimRashid) November 16, 2019​

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I don't know that he's better than Rudolph or Duck. I haven't seen MR or Duck play that much. I have seen Kap play for years and get worse.

That's why it's a ridiculous argument when people claim Kap is being wronged because he's better than insert backup QB here. NFL teams want backups with upside or backups that are reliable vets. Kap is neither. We've already seen his limits and he is only productive in a scheme that runs option. If the Ravens wanted him, it might make sense but they have RG3.

I also think he changed this workout because he is more interesting in claiming victim status to promote his real career of SJW rather than playing backup QB in the NFL. If he wanted to play so badly, he would have worked out in a parking lot.


As for the beefed up waiver, what do you expect when dealing with a guy who already sued you? You damn right the NFL had their lawyers make that waiver bulletproof.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Ryan Leaf should demand a workout too

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Maybe Kap can demand to Start at Alabama next week

 

[bermudasteel]

Maybe Kap can demand to Start at Alabama next week

Stop.

 

[slashsteel]

Yeah sucks when you cause upheaval at your job and then don't have a job. Life is a *****.

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[SteelerFan448]

I don't care about his opinions, but I don't want to see him (or anyone else for that matter) protesting about political issues at their job. I do think he'd be an upgrade for some teams either as a starter or backup, but if I'm a GM or HC, I don't think it'd be worth the media circus. While frustrated for all of the time he's been out, his statement after his workout probably didn't help his cause either.

 

[Tibs]

Yeah sucks when you cause upheaval at your job and then don't have a job. Life is a *****.

He caused an 'upheaval' at his job?' By showing up to work, never missing a practice, being a good teammate? He caused an 'upheaval at his job' because he quietly and respectfully took a knee for 1:40 min during the national anthem before a game, with 60,000+ in a stadium milling around, getting to their seats, standing in lines at concession stands?

A truly abrasive, abusive act on his part. It's a minor miracle he wasn't arrested, hog-tied and carried off the field by SWAT units.

 

[Skott]

Wow... he threw a pass to a hand picked WR with no Oline, defensive pressure or defensive backs on the field.

You think he’s the only one with a arm?

**** I saw a High School QB throw a pass further then that on Thursday night.

This dude is nothing but drama.

 

[Skott]

He caused an 'upheaval' at his job?' By showing up to work, never missing a practice, being a good teammate? He caused an 'upheaval at his job' because he quietly and respectfully took a knee for 1:40 min during the national anthem before a game, with 60,000+ in a stadium milling around, getting to their seats, standing in lines at concession stands?

A truly abrasive, abusive act on his part. It's a minor miracle he wasn't arrested, hog-tied and carried off the field by SWAT units.

He can protest all he wants on his OWN time. Call a press conference off team grounds. Have a TV crew in his driveway.

But when he is on employer time and he’s getting paid, he needs to abide by team and league rules.

Also, if a team signs him, will he quit his job on the board of directors at NIKE? Seems like it would be a conflict of interest..

 

[GMC]

32 NFL teams. Not 1 of them owned by an angel. This is the league that gave dog killer Michael Vick a 2nd chance.( yeah he paid his debt to society, but **** him) Does anyone really think that if Colin would give any team a better chance to win a single game, they wouldn't take it?

sit stand kneel everything goes out the window if you can win games. he cant win games

A ******* men! This league values talent over all else.

 

[Tibs]

Wow... he threw a pass to a hand picked WR with no Oline, defensive pressure or defensive backs on the field. You think he’s the only one with a arm? **** I saw a High School QB throw a pass further then that on Thursday night. This dude is nothing but drama.

Yeah, this is just a guy, just like a high school QB throwing passes. LOL. Btw, I've never been a huge fan of his, but I feel it's my civic duty to stand up for him.

Kaepernick finished his collegiate career with 10,098 passing yards, 82 passing touchdowns, 24 interceptions, 4,112 rushing yards and 59 rushing touchdowns. He became the first and only quarterback in the history of Division I FBS college football to have passed for over 10,000 yards and rushed for over 4,000 yards in a collegiate career.

In his first career postseason start, against the Green Bay Packers, Kaepernick had 263 passing yards, two passing touchdowns, one interception and 181 rushing yards and two rushing touchdowns as the 49ers defeated the Packers 45–31. With his performance, he set an NFL single-game record for most rushing yards by a quarterback with 181, breaking Michael Vick's record of 173 in a 2002 regular season game. He also broke the 49ers postseason rushing record, regardless of position and joined Jay Cutler and Otto Graham in both as the only players in NFL history to run for two touchdowns and pass for two others in a playoff game

In the NFC Championship, the 49ers defeated the Atlanta Falcons 28–24 with Kaepernick completing 16-of-21 passes for 233 yards and one touchdown. The team advanced to Super Bowl XLVII in New Orleans against the Baltimore Ravens. Kaepernick threw for 302 yards, one passing touchdown, and ran for a touchdown, but the 49ers fell behind early and could not come back, losing by a score of 31–34.

 

[Hoot]

But the man has an opinion on social issues, gasp.

He isn't vilified because of his opinion but rather for the place and method he chose to express it. If he had started a foundation, brought some police and communities together to talk over a beer or organized a peaceful protested outside town hall then I suspect he would have gotten a lot less backlash. I would even venture to guess he would have gotten a lot of support.

God forbid he says whatever the **** he wants in this Constitutional democracy.

He is welcome to express his beliefs (on his own time). But that does not give him immunity from opposing response. Those are opinions too so don't get bent over those who express dissension about his actions with the defense that he is just expressing his opinion.

Let's look at this from another angle. Here is an older local story: https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/14736549/ - you can skip the first 1:15 about Rupp and the SC Church shootings...just get to the part about the house in Rocky Mount. That man is "just expressing his beliefs and saying what he wants in this Constitutional Democracy". Does it bother you that his neighbors express their dissenting opinion of that piece of trash?

Who cares what his political opinions are? Are we in North Korea or China, where a man can't voice his opinion?

First, people in China or N. Korea go to jail or die over political distention. The comparison here is not even close. C'mon man, you are way better than that.
Second, Kap is welcome to express his political opinions the same way you and I are. That isn't what he did. He expressed his opinions on "company time".

The problem is he's been blackballed for nearly three years. It ain't right.

There is more to being an employee than job skills. He made a choice to use his employers facilities and capabilities to express his opinion to his employer's customers. Again, not his political view that got him in trouble, but rather the time and method he chose to express it. Now you see 32 teams and they are, indeed, independent companies. However, they are franchises of the licensing company called the NFL. If a McDonald's employee did something on an equivalent level, I'd bet not to many McDonald's franchise owners would hire him back either no matter how good his cooking skills were.

 

[Tibs]

I hear ya Hoot, but don't get the uproar over a silent, peaceful act, such as taking a knee during the National Anthem. I think the backlash has been way over the top. He wasn't shouting, screaming into a megaphone, etc. Just quietly taking a knee in solemn protest. I think as an American, he has the right to do that, even if it's 'on the job' as you describe it.

 

[Vader]

I hear ya Hoot, but don't get the uproar over a silent, peaceful act, such as taking a knee during the National Anthem. I think the backlash has been way over the top. He wasn't shouting, screaming into a megaphone, etc. Just quietly taking a knee in solemn protest. I think as an American, he has the right to do that, even if it's 'on the job' as you describe it.

You act like you don't know what else he has done. It wasn't just the kneeling and you know it. You don't want to talk about it but you know it. He wore pig cop socks. I know it doesn't fit your obvious agenda but it wasn't just the kneeling. He's a disrespectful, spoiled, multi-millionaire who likes to preach to others. I don't need his sermons.

 

[GMC]

I think as an American, he has the right to do that, even if it's 'on the job' as you describe it.

What? So everyone's right as an Amercian is do what ever they please in the workplace, free of repurcussions? Damn I missed out on a **** ton of oppurtunties before I retired. Your posts keep getting better and better.

 

[Hoot]

I hear ya Hoot, but don't get the uproar over a silent, peaceful act, such as taking a knee during the National Anthem. I think the backlash has been way over the top. He wasn't shouting, screaming into a megaphone, etc. Just quietly taking a knee in solemn protest. I think as an American, he has the right to do that, even if it's 'on the job' as you describe it.

The uproar is because he offended other people who hold the American Flag very closely to their heart. Did you watch the news story I posted? Dude, the people in that neighborhood have every right to be offended and angry yet all that piece of trash did was fly some cloth in silence. That ****** makes me angry and I live 60 miles from there. If you are going to express you opinion, don't get shocked when others disagree. I mean, are there underlying social issues worthy of discussion here? Sure, for those interested in having that conversation.

Companies carefully craft the causes and messages they support. The NFL is no different - it is just a big business. They spend a great deal of time and money supporting causes of their choosing such as breast cancer awareness, Unites States military, and first responders. The company decides what causes to support and how to use the facilities and capabilities it owns. Employees just don't get to circumvent that. Again, he can, of course, buy TV time and make his own TV commercial or show to express his beliefs. I fully support his right to do so. On this "company time" issue we will just have to disagree.

 

[Buster]

Tibs drinking the "blackball" Kool-aid. It's not collusion if no one wants to deal with the hassle that accompanies him...regardless of how good he is. See: Antonio Brown.

You just refuse to admit that and make yourself look foolish.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Stephen A nails it.

 

[Tibs]

You act like you don't know what else he has done. It wasn't just the kneeling and you know it. You don't want to talk about it but you know it. He wore pig cop socks. I know it doesn't fit your obvious agenda but it wasn't just the kneeling. He's a disrespectful, spoiled, multi-millionaire who likes to preach to others. I don't need his sermons.

So you want to live in a society where it's gonna be determined what type of socks people can or cannot wear? I guess America isn't the home of the free and the brave as it's been for 240+ years. Were you up in arms because Kurt Suzuki wore a MAGA hat when the Nationals visited the WH? That doesn't mesh with my political views, a whole lot of people found that offensive. So I guess he should be thrown out of baseball? SOB, disrespectful, spoiled, multi-millionare who likes to preach to others. See how that works? I'm not willing to go down that road. Evidently, you are.

 

[Tibs]

Anyway, I don't give two ***** what happens to Kaepernick. Just find the situation laughable...and even moreso, a sad testiment to where we are as a country. This is a football board, so I'll get back to football. Which is basically my point, that he should be judged as a QB, nothing more, nothing less. He's well past his prime physically, who knows if he'd even be able to play in the league. Best time to find that out would have been over the summer in some team's camp. At this stage, I do agree it's just a circus. Sorry if I let my emotions get the best of me. Cheers, Tibs

 

[Hoot]

Were you up in arms because Kurt Suzuki wore a MAGA hat when the Nationals visited the WH? That doesn't mesh with my political views, a whole lot of people found that offensive. So I guess he should be thrown out of baseball?.

I haven't paid any attention to Suzuki, the Nationals, or their WH visit but this is an interesting case study. well played. This would certainly take us down a path of the all might dollar and how much the distraction costs (or doesn't cost) the MLB. I'd gladly discuss with you, but that gets away from football in a football forum. I fear we are verging on a conversation better suited to the Politics forum.

 

[Steelr4evr]

All of you can go to the job you work. Protest whatever. Cause a huge commotion that costs your employer a lot of money,makes them look like ****,costs them countless customers and......

see if you don't get ******* fired.

Good luck claiming that constitutional right to free speech at work.

**** was stupid. The NFL ******* up not crushing that from the start. Your job isn't your platform for that crap. Do that on your own time.

Pretty ******* simple.


And **** caperdick and his pig socks. He brings nothing but a circus and he's a fraud.